Dude, you can't just make up a story that you think someone may have committed a crime and then use that as 'probable cause' to hunt them down and kill them. At the same time, any person being hunted down in such a fashion has the right to defend themselves. This is so obvious that it's only natural for others to assume you must have something blocking your mental faculties, such as racism.And you proved my point. So wanting to wait for facts and using logic to make important decisions in life is WHITEWASH. Sorry that logic is so racist for you.
AAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaBut wow, the racist bigotry I see these days against white people is insane.
Arbery matched at the time the description of the person burglarizing their neighborhood. There is no law that prevents people from confronting other people for anything. They approached Arbery to ascertain further if he was someone that was they burglar or not. Shit went wrong.
The difference in what you are saying is that these two guys are already known and questioned by the cops. Arbery hadn't been at that point in time. I don't think the two guys should have got out with guns in hand and confronted Arbery that way. While it would have been better to call cops, and follow behind to keep the cops informed of where he was going to let the cops take care of things when they got there, that isn't what happened. I don't think it is a horrible idea usually to make a friendly stop to ask someone, but there are certainly risks to the person doing so. If they are willing to accept those risks then whatever. But when you have a gun in hand, it is no longer a "friendly" stop at that point. It is now brandishing and a use of force when there was no need for such use of force at that point in time. That is where they fucked up in my opinion with the law. At least the laws in most places, and maybe where they are the laws are different to allow that. I doubt it though. There is allowed escalation of use of force for both citizens and officials. These guys didn't follow that. They came out brandishing with weapons in hand and that in most places is already against the law. When someone dies over it, that is usually negligent homicide or manslaughter (depending).
Good intentions and ignorance lead to bad outcome.
Dude, you can't just make up a story that you think someone may have committed a crime and then use that as 'probable cause' to hunt them down and kill them. At the same time, any person being hunted down in such a fashion has the right to defend themselves. This is so obvious that it's only natural for others to assume you must have something blocking your mental faculties, such as racism.
Oh I see, you do know what's going on but you're using a false narrative about what 'the left' and the 'MSM' are saying about this, because that's what RWNJs always do.
Newsflash: 'the left' and the 'MSM' are saying exactly what you're saying here, but they're also rightfully outraged that the first 2 prosecutors tried to let the killers off.
Uh, anyone can make up a story that the think someone committed a crime and use that story to confront someone. There is nothing illegal about confronting people in this country over anything. I can confront you if I see that you have a shoelace untied. Waving "Hi" at someone is the definition of confronting someone. If I come at you with a gun in my hand ready to shoot though, yep that gives you a right to defend yourself as is more than likely the case here.
Ascribing racial motives here though because you want to is just being dumb. Could there have been a racial motive? Maybe, but maybe not. We don't know at this point. Just because one side is white and the other side is black doesn't mean it was racially motivated at all. But you and everyone decrying it is from the start only shows your bigotry and racism. Yes, you are the racist here.
I am also outraged at how badly these guys handled this and fucked up. I am not defending them here. I am just pointing out how stupid and bigotted the media and people on this board are being in regards to this case. Don't like being called racist? Then stop being racist.
Are you like, super high right now? Could you please quote that racism towards white people you see in this thread? And be fucking specific.I am just pointing out how stupid and bigotted the media and people on this board are being in regards to this case. Don't like being called racist? Then stop being racist.
But wow, the racist bigotry I see these days against white people is insane. Despite all the claims and all the people that "want" it to be true, white people just don't commit violent hate crimes as often nor on the same scale as other races in the US. The FBI, CDC, DoJ, and all other agencies that record this data every year bear out these numbers. That isn't to say it doesn't happen, but it is so rare that there are more powerball winners more often than white on another race violent hate crime being committed in the US. Now as for other races on white violent hate crimes, that is a different story. There are far more of those. The media never reports those though.
Dude, I'm white. Fuck off and go troll someone else.
Dude, I'm white. Fuck off and go troll someone else.
Ascribing motives and actions based on someone's skin color, even if that skin color matches yours, is still being a bigot. Bigotry and Racism aren't synonymous. So fuck off yourself if you are taking a general term to people being a bigot as a personal insult.
Where are you getting these "facts" from? FBI stats say otherwise:
Offenders
ucr.fbi.govVictims
ucr.fbi.gov
Offenders:
Victims:
- 53.6 percent were White.
- 24.0 percent were Black or African American.
- 6.9 percent were groups made up of individuals of various races (group of multiple races).
- 1.3 percent were Asian.
- 1.0 percent were American Indian or Alaska Native.
- 0.3 percent (19 offenders) were Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander.
- 12.9 percent were unknown.
- 47.1 percent were victims of crimes motivated by offenders’ anti-Black or African American bias.
- 20.1 percent were victims of anti-White bias.
- 13.0 percent were victims of anti-Hispanic or Latino bias.
- 4.1 percent were victims of anti-American Indian or Alaska Native bias.
- 3.4 percent were victims of anti-Asian bias.
- 3.4 percent were victims of bias against a group of individuals in which more than one race was represented (anti-multiple races, group).
- 1.9 percent were victims of anti-Arab bias.
- 0.5 percent (26 individuals) were victims of anti-Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander bias.
- 6.5 percent were victims of anti-Other Race/Ethnicity/Ancestry bias.
www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rhovo1215.pdf
There is a bunch more. White on anything else more likely to be labeled "hate crime" despite the opposite not being the case. It is far more likely that violent crime goes the other way.
Same reason the FBI and other agencies don't list "drive by shootings" as "mass murders" even though they are. Because it doesn't fit the narrative.
Did I personally do what you ascribing to me? Anywhere in this thread? No, you called me a racist based on your interpretation of someone else's words, not mine.
I'll have your apology, thank you.
You used the term "violent hate crimes" in the post I responded to. A hate crime is a specific type of violent crime where there is proof that the motive was animus toward the group to which the victim belongs.
Your link isn't about hate crimes. Your response is irrelevant. Defend your original assertion.
I saw HumblePie had contributed to this thread and figured I could guess his opinion without even opening it. I was correct.
Lol, okay.And that would be to wait for the facts, apply logic, and not make assumptions of motives or actions based on color of skin while asking others to do the same? If that was your assumption then you were right.
Black man is a pretty shitty description on which to chase someone down and kill them.Arbery matched at the time the description of the person burglarizing their neighborhood.
Lol, okay.
I would bet money that by the end of this thread no matter what facts come to light you will maintain that we can’t determine racism was a contributing factor here.
It’s the same as in every thread, Schrodinger’s racism. You acknowledge racism exists in the world, just so happens it’s never in whatever specific instance we happen to be discussing.
I saw HumblePie had contributed to this thread and figured I could guess his opinion without even opening it. I was correct.
Automatically stating that the two white guys were out to hunt down and shoot him is being a bigot. You are ascribing motive to them based solely on the color of their skin. You feel they were after a black man because he was black based on that statement. That is your statement not mine. You are automatically jumping to conclusions based on the fact of the skin color of those involved and that is both racist and bigotry.
Why do you make it your mission in life to enter and thread and proceed to take a crap in the thread??Do you even know what you are talking about? Or what a lynching is?
Who signs your check from the KKK???Automatically stating that the two white guys were out to hunt down and shoot him is being a bigot. You are ascribing motive to them based solely on the color of their skin. You feel they were after a black man because he was black based on that statement. That is your statement not mine. You are automatically jumping to conclusions based on the fact of the skin color of those involved and that is both racist and bigotry.