if someone intends on shooting they dont wait for the gun to be grabbed, again that is just nonsense talk. bet you cant show a single example of someone who intends to kill and waits for other person to approach and grab the gunPeople often grab at guns when the person holding the gun intends to shoot them with it. That's just self-defense.
how do you gather that information?Politics and race aside, my concern is that there does not appear to have been any reasonable action that Arbery could have taken to avoid being killed by the McMichaels.
again the only way you KNOW if anything happened is if you are the person performing the robbery / vandalism. someone could steal from me and i would never know or notice, maybe the owner felt intimidated by people like you frothing at the mouth with out knowing anything. I'm not going to pretend i know anything.Yea, NOTHING HAPPENED, the OWNER OF THE PROPERTY gave a statement to the police, zero damage and nothing missing. Abery was unarmed and not in possession of anything. Yea, I guess in the old school they used large horses.
they hit him with the car first? ill have to watch it again maybe I'm not remembering it in its fullness. ok there is nothing in the video showing anyone strike him so I'm not sure how we know that part of it, i did watch the guy run full speed to the man with shotgun and grab it! very INSANE to me, but also insane to point a gun at someone you don't intend on killing two wrongs don't make a right tho, no idea what i would think on the jury.This was a colored person in a mostly trump-white neighborhood, they followed him with two vehicles, struck him with one when he tried to change direction then cut him off and jumped out of the truck with a loaded shotgun pointed at his face. Probably figuring these goon's were going to shoot him anyway he might have indeed tried to grab the barrel of the gun. What you fail to seem to understand is no one should ever bee put in that position.
The statement from the owner of the property was part of the investigation into the incident, but this was already pointed out to you when you previously played ignorant. You're just a dishonest bag of shit.again the only way you KNOW if anything happened is if you are the person performing the robbery / vandalism.
ok if you are the owner then you PROBABLY KNOW (like i said you can steal or vandalize something from me and i might not notice or make a deal out of it) **he prob just stopped to take a piss no idea why he was in a house not his own and running away. if you are reading something the owner wrote, you don't know anything other than what they want you to think. SO IF YOU LIKE being told what to think and believe what people tell you to think then this is perfect for you.The statement from the owner of the property was part of the investigation into the incident, but this was already pointed out to you when you previously played ignorant. You're just a dishonest bag of shit.
ok if you are the owner then you PROBABLY KNOW (like i said you can steal or vandalize something from me and i might not notice or make a deal out of it) **he prob just stopped to take a piss no idea why he was in a house not his own and running away. if you are reading something the owner wrote, you don't know anything other than what they want you to think. SO IF YOU LIKE being told what to think and believe what people tell you to think then this is perfect for you.
You're too obvious....he doesn't post with informed opinions, facts, or honesty.
ok if you are the owner then you PROBABLY KNOW (like i said you can steal or vandalize something from me and i might not notice or make a deal out of it) **he prob just stopped to take a piss no idea why he was in a house not his own and running away. if you are reading something the owner wrote, you don't know anything other than what they want you to think. SO IF YOU LIKE being told what to think and believe what people tell you to think then this is perfect for you.
political puppet masters? (do you think i have voted even once my whole life?) see you have no knowledge of things going on but you just pretend to! I'm not defending anyone i don't care about anyone or anything, and yes English isn't my language so I'm so sorry if my grammar is often misplacedIf you're under the impression that you look like an independent thinker while defending a murder because your political puppetmasters told you to, and all the while doing so in 9th grade dropout English.. well..
He could have been whitePolitics and race aside, my concern is that there does not appear to have been any reasonable action that Arbery could have taken to avoid being killed by the McMichaels.
so fucking true it hurtsHe could have been white
Still operating on the assumption Arbury was stealing without any evidence. Wonder what causes that mindset? Probably the same mindset that drove those redneck crackers to murder.ok if you are the owner then you PROBABLY KNOW (like i said you can steal or vandalize something from me and i might not notice or make a deal out of it) **he prob just stopped to take a piss no idea why he was in a house not his own and running away. if you are reading something the owner wrote, you don't know anything other than what they want you to think. SO IF YOU LIKE being told what to think and believe what people tell you to think then this is perfect for you.
aren't those racist terms? it is OK to say racist things as long as its toward someone you don't agree with? i have no idea of anything other than they pulled a gun and he ran full speed toward it and grabbed it. i didn't say he stole something but i cant know unless i was him if he did or did not intend to steal / steal etc etc. you can pretend to know but you don't know anything.Still operating on the assumption Arbury was stealing without any evidence. Wonder what causes that mindset? Probably the same mindset that drove those redneck crackers to murder.
I don't know those guys who murdered Arbury. I can call them anything I want especially if it's the truth.aren't those racist terms? it is OK to say racist things as long as its toward someone you don't agree with? i have no idea of anything other than they pulled a gun and he ran full speed toward it and grabbed it. i didn't say he stole something but i cant know unless i was him if he did or did not intend to steal / steal etc etc. you can pretend to know but you don't know anything.
The mic drop.He could have been white
Brandeberry, however, testified that Gregory McMichael never mentioned the words “trespass,” “burglary,” “arrest,” or “detain” during their conversation.
“Did he ever tell you while you were talking to him that he was attempting to make a citizen’s arrest?” Dunikoski asked.
“No ma’am,” Brandeberry said.
a vice article must be trueSo much for the citizens arrest defense.
Father of Ahmaud Arbery’s Killer: ‘I Would Have Shot Him Myself’
“To be perfectly honest with you, if I could have got a shot at the guy, I would have shot him myself,” he said, according to body camera footage.www.vice.com
Good grief, can you rationalize murder any better? Killster, indeed.a vice article must be true
Before trial, Lindstrom issued subpoenas for records of the key witness’ psychiatric treatment. Id. After it conducted an in camera review of the subpoenaed records, the district court allowed the defense to View some of the records. Id. The defense was able to piece together [f]rom public records and from psychiatric records which the district court permitted defense counsel to review,” Id., picture of the witness as one who had attempted suicide, been hospitalized, and been diagnosed as schizophrenic suffering from hallucinations and delusions. Id. However, the court did not permit the defense to review four other sets of mental health records. Id. at 1164.
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Microsoft Word - Mental Health Brief FINAL 6.14.21.docx (glynncounty.org)
wow i didn't know the guy was suicidal and schizophrenic.. )(oh wait i said only a mental person would grab at a loaded gun pointed at them)
lets google his criminal history next.
Officer Robert Mydell testified about Arbery’s December 2017 arrest and shoplifting conviction for trying to steal a TV from a Walmart. Mydell said Arbery was confrontational, used profanity and refused to sit on the ground when ordered.
ok i didnt see much but he def had/was stealing in the community, refused to follow police orders.. yea didnt expect that... oh wait..
Of course he can becauseGood grief, can you rationalize murder any better? Killster, indeed.
So much for the citizens arrest defense.
Father of Ahmaud Arbery’s Killer: ‘I Would Have Shot Him Myself’
“To be perfectly honest with you, if I could have got a shot at the guy, I would have shot him myself,” he said, according to body camera footage.www.vice.com
“I’m thinking he’s either done something to somebody, somebody’s chasing him,” Gregory McMichael said, according to a transcript of his conversation with Marcy. “Or maybe somebody drove up and found him in their house, or drove up to that particular house that he likes to go into over and over again.”
a vice article must be true
Before trial, Lindstrom issued subpoenas for records of the key witness’ psychiatric treatment. Id. After it conducted an in camera review of the subpoenaed records, the district court allowed the defense to View some of the records. Id. The defense was able to piece together [f]rom public records and from psychiatric records which the district court permitted defense counsel to review,” Id., picture of the witness as one who had attempted suicide, been hospitalized, and been diagnosed as schizophrenic suffering from hallucinations and delusions. Id. However, the court did not permit the defense to review four other sets of mental health records. Id. at 1164.
quote from
Microsoft Word - Mental Health Brief FINAL 6.14.21.docx (glynncounty.org)
wow i didn't know the guy was suicidal and schizophrenic.. )(oh wait i said only a mental person would grab at a loaded gun pointed at them)
lets google his criminal history next.
Officer Robert Mydell testified about Arbery’s December 2017 arrest and shoplifting conviction for trying to steal a TV from a Walmart. Mydell said Arbery was confrontational, used profanity and refused to sit on the ground when ordered.
ok i didnt see much but he def had/was stealing in the community, refused to follow police orders.. yea didnt expect that... oh wait..
Arbury's decision is a very instinctual fight or flight mechanism. When faced with a life threatening situation, humans will either choose to run or fight. You're taking into account variable simultaneously. In this case, the victim chose to fight, I'm confident the thought of getting shot in the back was right there at the front on his thoughts, and instead fought for his life.
The video of Dunn being interrogated by the police after his arrest is some sick shit. Pure psychopath. And yet many people still defended him.This thread has many similarities to the Jordan Davis murder. There was an assumption by a select few that a car full of young black males meant they were thugs. The answer for them is black people just need to acquiesce to the inherent authority of the white man.
That is their solution. It's a privilege mindset along with a few other things.
Suggested reading to understand
Teenager shot dead after playing loud music
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