The people who defended Dunn are some of the same people defending the 3 killers of Arbury. In case @pcgeek11 was wondering these are some of the members of that "group" to whom I was referring.The video of Dunn being interrogated by the police after his arrest is some sick shit. Pure psychopath. And yet many people still defended him.
hey i agree with you on many things, they should not use guns unless there was a weapon involved from the suspected person. 100% agree it was not how it should have gone down. I am not sure if it is only a felony that you can citizen arrest someone for so i would have to check on that.That Arbery grabbed the gun is completely irrelevant to aggravated assault/felony murder charges. It is clearly established that they pointed the gun at him and threatened to shoot him verbally. They are guilty of at least these two offenses unless they can prove a valid citizen's arrest.
If anything, Arbery's mental illness makes the whole deal much more tragic. If he was acting suspiciously because he was suffering from mental illness, then he needed help. Having a criminal record does not mean you can use force to detain someone who is acting strangely. The citizen's arrest statue clearly states they must be fleeing or attempting to flee a felony offense committed in your presence or within your immediate knowledge.
Here is the law:hey i agree with you on many things, they should not use guns unless there was a weapon involved from the suspected person. 100% agree it was not how it should have gone down. I am not sure if it is only a felony that you can citizen arrest someone for so i would have to check on that.
The people who defended Dunn are some of the same people defending the 3 killers of Arbury. In case @pcgeek11 was wondering these are some of the members of that "group" to whom I was referring.
The people who defended Dunn are some of the same people defending the 3 killers of Arbury. In case @pcgeek11 was wondering these are some of the members of that "group" to whom I was referring.
To quote Shakespeare, "methinks thou doth protest too much"I am sure you are trying to include me in that "group" defending Dunn, but if you are then you are wrong. I said the moment Dunn got out of his car and continued to shoot at a fleeing vehicle full of people that did not make any threats to him was the moment he criminally tried to murder those people. Which means he was going to prison for a long time and stated that in the thread to which I was right.
Again with the McMichaels, from the get go I stated their actions from what I could tell looked criminal. I still play a little bit of lawyer here in going over the laws for what the defense would probably try to do. That the defense would have more evidence to bring to a case usually than what we have seen in the public is a given. It might be enough evidence to sway a jury even. That happens a lot. They would have to somehow get the jury to believe the McMichaels had a reasonable belief that a felony was just committed by Ahmaud. It's thin still to my opinion on that. They did have more evidence though with the fact that Ahmaud was caught not only casing the construction, but other houses as well several times and on video. That the majority of the neighborhood was on the look out for him. It gives a little credence to why the McMichaels were after him. Still don't think it is enough.
Yes, he found out Dunn was guilty, it only took him 180 pages in the thread to do so.To quote Shakespeare, "methinks thou doth protest too much"
I'll let you figure out what that means
Your only consistency is you are completely predictable given the circumstance and especially the actors.
And only then because Dunn shot at people who were trying to escape his murderous rampage, and not because of the murder Dunn had already committed.Yes, he found out Dunn was guilty, it only took him 180 pages in the thread to do so.
Yes it was. However if you are looking to foist guilt on a black man you conveniently forget that fact. Now HP can go back to cheerleading for Kyle Rittenhouse even though he isn't willing to apply the same standards to his precious Kyle of "he had no business being there"Wait.... I thought HP was trying to be objective in this thread then he went all "casing" his unrealized next crime location........
Wasn't it already established very early in this story that many people NOT named Arbery had been recorded walking through the house? Only one of the many people on camera were ever tailed or shot by the defendants. Strange.
but...but...there is not such thing as systemic racism. It's on full display in this courtroom. the defense attorney and by the laws that allowed him to select jurors based on racial discrimination (admitted by the judge). These same laws don't give the judge discretion to fix it.I know the other case is front and center due to nearing its end but holy shit some of the garbage coming out of the defenses mouth about Black Pastors.
“If we’re going to start a precedent starting yesterday where we’re going to bring high-profile members of the African-American community into the courtroom to sit with the family during the trial in the presence of the jury I believe intimidating, that’s an attempt to pressure… or influence the jury,” Gough told the judge.
“The idea that we’re going to be serially bringing these people in to sit with the victim’s family, one after another — obviously, there’s only so many pastors they can have. And if their pastor’s Al Sharpton right now, that’s fine. But then that’s it. We don’t want any more Black pastors coming in here — Jesse Jackson, or whoever was in here earlier this week — sitting with the victim’s family, trying to influence the jury in this case.”
Gough then started to dig himself into an even deeper hole, saying, “If a bunch of folks came in here dressed like Colonel Sanders with white masks sitting in the back…”
But Judge Timothy Walmsley interrupted the lawyer, stopping him mid-sentence. “The fact that nobody even noticed that [Sharpton] was in here means that everybody compiled with this court’s rulings,” Walmsley said, adding that he wasn’t going to “blanketly exclude members of the public.” Gough admitted during his rant that he hadn’t realized Sharpton was in the room until later that evening.
This isn’t Gough’s only strange statement in this case. During jury selection, Gough claimed that older, white Southern men were “significantly underrepresented” in the jury pool, from which the eventual jury was to be selected.
This one is going to be the powder keg. Not the Rittenhouse case. These Good Old Boys are going to walk if the South has its way.
Wait.... I thought HP was trying to be objective in this thread then he went all "casing" his unrealized next crime location........
Wasn't it already established very early in this story that many people NOT named Arbery had been recorded walking through the house? Only one of the many people on camera were ever tailed or shot by the defendants. Strange.
I smell a theme.What I've been talking about in this thread had been about who citizen's arrest law works in GA. Which basically has turned out exactly how I described it so far according to the court finding in this case. Most of the people around here don't like the idea of citizen's arrests being a legal thing one can do. Most don't even like the fact that private citizen's can own guns in this thread as well. Lastly, I was pointing out where the media narrative as I have known it has been wrong on this case so far. Turns out with how the trial has been proceeding that they are even more wrong than I thought. Especially statements now made by Rodney on the stand.
For a recap of evidence so far presented at trial. Turns out that Ahmaud had been casing places. Had been thought to have stolen stuff. Police had also thought he had. Been called upon to 911 dozens of times without being caught for months. Had been seen in various neighborhood cameras casing other places including the home of a single mom at night. That the police had told the neighbors to arm themselves because the police believed Ahmaud was doing this while armed. Frankly the evidence presented this week isn't looking good for the prosecution at all in this case. The defense still has the hurdle of the McMichael's having a "reasonable knowledge" a felony had been committed by Ahmaud to raise their guns at him first in an attempt to stop him though Up until this past week I wasn't so sure the defense could convince the jury of that. Now it is looking like it may very well happen.
I smell a theme.
We only worry about "black" people walking onto that property
We don't want "black" people on the jury
We don't "black" people in the public courtroom seating area
I'm beginning to realize people like me aren't welcome in GA except the city of Atlanta
Didn't address the other 2 did ya?When a person, regardless of race, is constantly going on to various people's properties and homes at night for months.. yah I doubt that person is welcome.
Didn't address the other 2 did ya?
Wait.... I thought HP was trying to be objective in this thread then he went all "casing" his unrealized next crime location........
Wasn't it already established very early in this story that many people NOT named Arbery had been recorded walking through the house? Only one of the many people on camera were ever tailed or shot by the defendants. Strange.
A little backstory on the person you're talking about. He sued Dick's sporting goods for mental anguish for ruining his celebration of baby Jesus' bday by giving him a refund for an assault rifle they no longer planned to sell + a gift card instead of delivering the rifle. In the midst of doing that he tried to claim he was "just doing what was right, like MLK Jr", despite him then settling out of court (meaning, he didn't win any change to anything, didn't stand up for any principle, just took the money like the whore he is).
He'll also argue that he's right even when his own "proof" of said being right literally does the opposite. For pages. The amusement of seeing someone desperately lie about simple provable things like he's lying to his mom about sticking his dick in the vaccuum cleaner again isn't worth it.
Hey that criminal justice degree from a diploma mill is just the same as a JD right?Don't forget how he claimed he "went to law school" when he was just in school for criminal justice, lol.
What I've been talking about in this thread had been about who citizen's arrest law works in GA. Which basically has turned out exactly how I described it so far according to the court finding in this case. Most of the people around here don't like the idea of citizen's arrests being a legal thing one can do. Most don't even like the fact that private citizen's can own guns in this thread as well. Lastly, I was pointing out where the media narrative as I have known it has been wrong on this case so far. Turns out with how the trial has been proceeding that they are even more wrong than I thought. Especially statements now made by Rodney on the stand.
For a recap of evidence so far presented at trial. Turns out that Ahmaud had been casing places. Had been thought to have stolen stuff. Police had also thought he had. Been called upon to 911 dozens of times without being caught for months. Had been seen in various neighborhood cameras casing other places including the home of a single mom at night. That the police had told the neighbors to arm themselves because the police believed Ahmaud was doing this while armed. Frankly the evidence presented this week isn't looking good for the prosecution at all in this case. The defense still has the hurdle of the McMichael's having a "reasonable knowledge" a felony had been committed by Ahmaud to raise their guns at him first in an attempt to stop him though Up until this past week I wasn't so sure the defense could convince the jury of that. Now it is looking like it may very well happen.
Frankly the evidence presented this week isn't looking good for the prosecution at all in this case.
I have a problem with this for the same reason I have a problem with the criminal justice system. Unequal treatment.Most of the people around here don't like the idea of citizen's arrests being a legal thing one can do. Most don't even like the fact that private citizen's can own guns in this thread as well.