Trayvon Martin's Hoodie - New Addition to the Smithsonian?

lxskllr

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I don't have a problem with it. It may end up being historically significant for some reason, so it makes sense to keep it on hand.
 

DeadFred

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Id rather them us GZ's pistol, since it appears he wont be getting it back.
 

JM Aggie08

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I don't have a problem with it. It may end up being historically significant for some reason, so it makes sense to keep it on hand.

A relic of how the media of the early 21st century had our judicial system by the balls?
 

lxskllr

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A relic of how the media of the early 21st century had our judicial system by the balls?

Could be. Gun legislation could come from it, or it could be a turning point for self defense rights. Today, I don't think it's worth anything, but I don't have a crystal ball, and it may end up being more important than it appears.
 

PowerYoga

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annnnnd there goes my respect for the smithsonian. Now its ranked just higher than MOMA.
 
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Remember kids: This teenager was an idol. You too can get kicked out your house, expelled from school, and then innocently be walking to the store to get high....

toolbags.
 

pontifex

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disgusting. no way should it be displayed as a museum piece.

wtf is with this country and glorifying thugs and criminals?
 

Wheezer

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"It became the symbolic way to talk about the Trayvon Martin case," Lonnie Bunch told the Post. "It's rare that you get one artifact that really becomes the symbol.

"Because it's such a symbol, it would allow you to talk about race in the age of Obama."


what does Obama have to do with it? Unless it's because he is partly black.

...but I thought a person was to be recognized by the content of their character and not the color of their skin.
 

Craig234

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disgusting. no way should it be displayed as a museum piece.

wtf is with this country and glorifying thugs and criminals?

You don't understand the purpose of cultural museums.

It's not glorifying anyone to display the hoodie, it's noting its effect in public debate.
 

Craig234

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I don't see rodney king's possessions in the smithsonian, or anywhere.

What of his possessions was relvant? Maybe one of his teeth if one had come out from the beating?

The hoodie became a symbol. Remember sports teams wearing them, remember a member of Congress wearing one on the floor?
 

PowerYoga

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What of his possessions was relvant? Maybe one of his teeth if one had come out from the beating?

The hoodie became a symbol. Remember sports teams wearing them, remember a member of Congress wearing one on the floor?

Not really, but then I view the whole thing as a media circus that got blown out or proportion. I do recall there were a lot of rodney king riots though.
 

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It's amazing to me just how high a % of people who discuss the whole Zimmerman/Trayvon thing absolutely refuse to admit why it was Zimmerman found him suspicious. As in, the primary reason.

Did the hoodie play a role? Yea, sure... did his race play a role? sure...

But 90% of why Zimmerman's suspicion was aroused was Trayvon's behavior. He described him moving and acting suspiciously. Any cop will tell you, that isn't a ridiculous statement. That's a real thing. Hoodlums and thugs have a way of carrying themselves, a way of walking and moving through an environment... part of it is trying to look intimidating, part of it is trying to keep an eye out to make sure nobody's watching them, and in some cases (like this one) part of it is being intoxicated in some way.

Because nobody in the media or discussing this case in any forum were there to see this behavior first hand, and because before they even knew much of anything about the case they'd already been convinced by the MSM's malpractice that Zimmerman was a horrible murderous racist monster and Trayvon was the little kid in the Hollister shirt with skittles... they never gave this issue it's proper consideration. They dismissed the idea that Trayvon was carrying himself in a suspicious way.

With what has come out about him, and the 7-11 video, this is now not only believable, it's all but a certainty.

So these red herrings of the hoodie and the candy and his race are just distractions used by people to frame it in a more inflammatory, stupid, and racially toxic way.
 

JM Aggie08

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I do like that the court failed to make note of the fact that the kid purchased 2/3 of the ingredients required to make lean at the 7-11...hours after a facebook friend mentioned the homemade recipe to Martin.

I really should not have drudged all of this shit back up, but proposing to have the hoodie on display is just plain outrageous.
 

Craig234

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Not really, but then I view the whole thing as a media circus that got blown out or proportion. I do recall there were a lot of rodney king riots though.

I largely agree with you about the media circus and out of proportion, but that doesn't change the fact it was important to a lot of people.

Race is still an important issue and for better or worse the killing here triggered a lot of public attention to it, with the hoodie a symbol of the incident and the issue.
 

BladeVenom

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A symbols of media propaganda. How effective the media is at manipulating the weak minded by turning an obvious case of self defense into race baiting propaganda.
 

QueBert

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A symbols of media propaganda. How effective the media is at manipulating the weak minded by turning an obvious case of self defense into race baiting propaganda.

Not obvious to me, both were clearly in the wrong here. We don't even know who started the fight, this is coming from someone who's been in fights where I started it and ended up on the bottom taking 100% of the damage.
 

Oyeve

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I do like that the court failed to make note of the fact that the kid purchased 2/3 of the ingredients required to make lean at the 7-11...hours after a facebook friend mentioned the homemade recipe to Martin.

I really should not have drudged all of this shit back up, but proposing to have the hoodie on display is just plain outrageous.

Thats because the ingredients he had would NOT make lean. Need sprite and jolly rancher candies PLUS the DM. His 2 ingredients do not match up with what was needed to make it. More media BS.
 

Geosurface

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Thats because the ingredients he had would NOT make lean. Need sprite and jolly rancher candies PLUS the DM. His 2 ingredients do not match up with what was needed to make it. More media BS.

I saw a video of someone making Skittles flavored vodka shots, and they just let the skittles dissolve in Vodka. Now, I realize vodka is going to have more of an ability to break down Skittles than Watermelon Fruit Juice Cocktail and Robitussin or codeine would, but I think you're envisioning something where the entire Skittle would need to dissolve... that wouldn't be necessary, just the coating dissolving partially would be enough to give it a sweeter flavor.

Who knows? It'd be interesting to find out if there are any references to using Skittles in Lean which are on the web prior to last February.
 

QueBert

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Thats because the ingredients he had would NOT make lean. Need sprite and jolly rancher candies PLUS the DM. His 2 ingredients do not match up with what was needed to make it. More media BS.

But it's POSSIBLE he COULD have been using tea + Skittles to make lean. The fact he didn't have the MAIN ingredients shouldn't mean he wasn't going to make it. In fact any time a black teen buys any sweet drink and a candy to go with it - rest assure they're making Lean! Doesn't matter if it's Chocolate Milk & Sweet Tarts - LEAN.
 
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