Trent Lott on BET now

[charrison]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: CPA
Once again I ask, when is BET going to interview Senator Robert Byrd??? Or at the very least, when is Sheila Jackson Lee and John Conyers going to call him out??? I find it quite interesting that he has been very quiet during this whole thing. He is not usually lost for words.

Why are you trying to pass the buck? Byrd isn't the one on "trial" here. Byrd isn't the one that made an ass out of himself a couple of weeks ago.

Byrd's actions today have no correlation to his actions years ago. OTOH, Lott's actions today speak correlate quite positively to his actions from years past.

I wont even try to defend Lotts fsck up. But one has to wonder if he is such a racist, why has he remained so popular in his home state with such a large black population?

 

[etech]

flavio

Typical diversionary tactic, look around for someone else that may haave done something wrong as if that makes everything ok.

No, bringing up Byrd and his n---- remarks only serves to show what hypocrits the people are being in this case.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: CPA
Once again I ask, when is BET going to interview Senator Robert Byrd??? Or at the very least, when is Sheila Jackson Lee and John Conyers going to call him out??? I find it quite interesting that he has been very quiet during this whole thing. He is not usually lost for words.

Why are you trying to pass the buck? Byrd isn't the one on "trial" here. Byrd isn't the one that made an ass out of himself a couple of weeks ago.

Byrd's actions today have no correlation to his actions years ago. OTOH, Lott's actions today speak correlate quite positively to his actions from years past.

I wont even try to defend Lotts fsck up. But one has to wonder if he is such a racist, why has he remained so popular in his home state with such a large black population?

Why does Dick Clark never age?? It's just one of life's mysteries

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: CPA
Once again I ask, when is BET going to interview Senator Robert Byrd??? Or at the very least, when is Sheila Jackson Lee and John Conyers going to call him out??? I find it quite interesting that he has been very quiet during this whole thing. He is not usually lost for words.

Why are you trying to pass the buck? Byrd isn't the one on "trial" here. Byrd isn't the one that made an ass out of himself a couple of weeks ago.

Byrd's actions today have no correlation to his actions years ago. OTOH, Lott's actions today speak correlate quite positively to his actions from years past.

I wont even try to defend Lotts fsck up. But one has to wonder if he is such a racist, why has he remained so popular in his home state with such a large black population?

Why does Dick Clark never age?? It's just one of life's mysteries

Nice dodge, Why would a black population keep electing a racist?

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

In theory BBD, you are right. This assumes a neutral interviewer. I doubt BET is using one of those. This is just the same as the defendant taking the stand. Sometimes it is needed, but otherwise it is almost always a bad idea.

IMO, the interviewer was actually soft. He did ask what Lott meant, what are his beliefs past/present, explain his voting record on civil rights issues (including MLK), and what does he expect in his political future. It really should not be hard to clearly explain what you believe (ATOT notwithstanding). Lott clearly elucidated his perspective on a variety of specific issues in his own words. They just happen to be the antithesis of his public record to date but hey minor detail.

Lott would not have performed better if interviewed by Southern Partisan, National Review, or the Weekly Standard assuming they asked the questions people want answered. Granted, I doubt any of those publications would ask if he supported affirmative action . . . they would rightly assume No. Umm, well it used to be no. I guess it is 'yes, across the board' now.

 

[PG]

Didn't Strom campain for states rights back in his day along with segregation? I don't doubt that Lott is a racist, but why isn't he trying to say that he was talking about states rights?

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: CPA
Once again I ask, when is BET going to interview Senator Robert Byrd??? Or at the very least, when is Sheila Jackson Lee and John Conyers going to call him out??? I find it quite interesting that he has been very quiet during this whole thing. He is not usually lost for words.

Why are you trying to pass the buck? Byrd isn't the one on "trial" here. Byrd isn't the one that made an ass out of himself a couple of weeks ago.

Byrd's actions today have no correlation to his actions years ago. OTOH, Lott's actions today speak correlate quite positively to his actions from years past.

I wont even try to defend Lotts fsck up. But one has to wonder if he is such a racist, why has he remained so popular in his home state with such a large black population?

Why does Dick Clark never age?? It's just one of life's mysteries

Nice dodge, Why would a black population keep electing a racist?

Lott ran unopposed this year...maybe that's why he won?

Seriously though, I don't know enough about the voting record or black population % of Mississippi to comment on any of the other elections besides this past one.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc

In theory BBD, you are right. This assumes a neutral interviewer. I doubt BET is using one of those. This is just the same as the defendant taking the stand. Sometimes it is needed, but otherwise it is almost always a bad idea.

IMO, the interviewer was actually soft. He did ask what Lott meant, what are his beliefs past/present, explain his voting record on civil rights issues (including MLK), and what does he expect in his political future. It really should not be hard to clearly explain what you believe (ATOT notwithstanding). Lott clearly elucidated his perspective on a variety of specific issues in his own words. They just happen to be the antithesis of his public record to date but hey minor detail. Lott would not have performed better if interviewed by Southern Partisan, National Review, or the Weekly Standard assuming they asked the questions people want answered. Granted, I doubt any of those publications would ask if he supported affirmative action . . . they would rightly assume No. Umm, well it used to be no. I guess it is 'yes, across the board' now.

LOL, well good to hear they didnt try to fry him just for ratings. Didnt see the interview. Still, it suprises me that people who ought to know better put themselves into positions of political peril, be it at a send off for an ancient senator, or whatever. Does not come across as very clever on their part.

 

[Gnurb]

I seriously don't know what he's thinking.

To get elected, I thought you at least had to have half a brain. 3 times he comes out in support of segregation, and then he goes on Black Entertainment Television.

Maybe he is a true to life masochist.

 

[Martin]

Maybe I've been studying too much lately, but what is so funny about Red's reply?

 

[PG]

"And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years either," Lott added in his Dec. 5 toast.

The BET appearance is at least his fourth apology, as Lott tries to hang on to his job as Senate majority leader. Some Democrats have called for him to resign, and Senate Republicans have called a January meeting to consider the issue.

Lott said he didn't think he should have to resign or be replaced, and denied that he is a racist. "To be a racist, you have to feel superior," Lott told interviewer Ed Gordon. "I don't feel superior to you at all."

Lott, sitting alone with Gordon in a Mobile, Ala. television studio, continued to insist that he didn't mean anything racial with his Thurmond comments.

"What did you mean when you say 'those problems'?" Gordon said.

"I was talking about the problems of defense, of communism, and budget, of a government that sometimes didn't do its job," Lott said. "But again I understand that was interpreted by people the way it was and I should have been sensitive to that. I obviously made a mistake and I'm doing everything I can to admit that and deal with it and correct it. And I'm hope that people will give me a chance to do so."


So it does look like his words were taken out of context. People ASSUMED Lott was talking about Strom's segregationist ideas, but it was possibly something else.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: NFS4
Lott ran unopposed this year...maybe that's why he won?

Seriously though, I don't know enough about the voting record or black population % of Mississippi to comment on any of the other elections besides this past one.

So Lott is so racist, that in a black state he is able to run completely unapposed? He must be really be good at keeping the people down there.

All the sudden, you dont know what their politics are, but yet everyone is screaming he is a racist.

 

[NFS4]

So it does look like his words were taken out of context. People ASSUMED Lott was talking about Strom's segregationist ideas, but it was possibly something else.

As much as Lott hopped from foot to foot in that interview, it's hard to believe anything he said.

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: PG

So it does look like his words were taken out of context. People ASSUMED Lott was talking about Strom's segregationist ideas, but it was possibly something else.

Ida know about that. Thurmond's entire platform was keeping the government from forcing integration.

If someone said that Osama Bin Laden would have gotten rid of all of our problems if he were elected President, what would you think? Maybe he meant that he was talking about Osama's ideas for a strong military, but that's not what most people would think.

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: NFS4
Lott ran unopposed this year...maybe that's why he won?

Seriously though, I don't know enough about the voting record or black population % of Mississippi to comment on any of the other elections besides this past one.

So Lott is so racist, that in a black state he is able to run completely unapposed? He must be really be good at keeping the people down there.

All the sudden, you dont know what their politics are, but yet everyone is screaming he is a racist.

Lott was for poll taxes to keep blacks from voting. Who says he's not somehow preventing them from running now?

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: NFS4
Lott ran unopposed this year...maybe that's why he won?

Seriously though, I don't know enough about the voting record or black population % of Mississippi to comment on any of the other elections besides this past one.

So Lott is so racist, that in a black state he is able to run completely unapposed? He must be really be good at keeping the people down there.

All the sudden, you dont know what their politics are, but yet everyone is screaming he is a racist.

Lott was for poll taxes to keep blacks from voting. Who says he's not somehow preventing them from running now?

poll taxes?

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: NFS4
Lott ran unopposed this year...maybe that's why he won?

Seriously though, I don't know enough about the voting record or black population % of Mississippi to comment on any of the other elections besides this past one.

So Lott is so racist, that in a black state he is able to run completely unapposed? He must be really be good at keeping the people down there.

All the sudden, you dont know what their politics are, but yet everyone is screaming he is a racist.

Lott was for poll taxes to keep blacks from voting. Who says he's not somehow preventing them from running now?

While we are speculating, who is to say Byrd is not using similar tactics.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: NFS4
Lott ran unopposed this year...maybe that's why he won?

Seriously though, I don't know enough about the voting record or black population % of Mississippi to comment on any of the other elections besides this past one.

So Lott is so racist, that in a black state he is able to run completely unapposed? He must be really be good at keeping the people down there.

All the sudden, you dont know what their politics are, but yet everyone is screaming he is a racist.

Lott was for poll taxes to keep blacks from voting. Who says he's not somehow preventing them from running now?

poll taxes?

You had to pay to vote.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

I wont even try to defend Lotts fsck up. But one has to wonder if he is such a racist, why has he remained so popular in his home state with such a large black population?

They don't vote. After the tremendous struggle to vote and for equally bad (public) education, blacks have extremely poor voting records. I think someone noted that black turnout in FL 2000 was 10% of the total vote and 16% of the 2002. Granted, maybe a lot of whites and hispanics stayed at home but an increase like that in an off year election is ridiculous.

In general, Democrats take the black vote for granted and Republicans until very recently expect blacks to vote Democratic. As recently as the LA senate campaign GOP operatives have worked to suppress the black vote . . . usually misinformation campaigns.

So your answer is just like George Bush . . . Lott is popular amongst the majority that voted but they are a minority of the population.

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: NFS4
Lott ran unopposed this year...maybe that's why he won?

Seriously though, I don't know enough about the voting record or black population % of Mississippi to comment on any of the other elections besides this past one.

So Lott is so racist, that in a black state he is able to run completely unapposed? He must be really be good at keeping the people down there.

All the sudden, you dont know what their politics are, but yet everyone is screaming he is a racist.

Lott was for poll taxes to keep blacks from voting. Who says he's not somehow preventing them from running now?

poll taxes?

After blacks were given the right to vote, some states set up poll taxes (money you had to pay before you could vote), which kept the traditionally poor blacks from voting.

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: NFS4
Lott ran unopposed this year...maybe that's why he won?

Seriously though, I don't know enough about the voting record or black population % of Mississippi to comment on any of the other elections besides this past one.

So Lott is so racist, that in a black state he is able to run completely unapposed? He must be really be good at keeping the people down there.

All the sudden, you dont know what their politics are, but yet everyone is screaming he is a racist.

Lott was for poll taxes to keep blacks from voting. Who says he's not somehow preventing them from running now?

While we are speculating, who is to say Byrd is not using similar tactics.

Byrd isn't the issue. In 2002, Byrd did not suggest the world would be a better place if we were segregated. If Byrd makes a similar comment now, we should go after him.

 

[Walleye]

something about you have to spend money to vote. something I'm against, however i am in favor of a literacy requirement for voting, based entirely upon common sense.

 

[CantedValve]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: CPA
Once again I ask, when is BET going to interview Senator Robert Byrd??? Or at the very least, when is Sheila Jackson Lee and John Conyers going to call him out??? I find it quite interesting that he has been very quiet during this whole thing. He is not usually lost for words.

Why are you trying to pass the buck? Byrd isn't the one on "trial" here. Byrd isn't the one that made an ass out of himself a couple of weeks ago.

Byrd's actions today have no correlation to his actions years ago. OTOH, Lott's actions today speak correlate quite positively to his actions from years past.

Wow... you tear a guy limb from limb because of a remark that had to be interpreted wrong for it to be offensive, and DEFEND a guy who was at one point a LEADER in the biggest black-hating group in the world.

Think about it... but then again you people dont do much thinking at all do you?

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc

I wont even try to defend Lotts fsck up. But one has to wonder if he is such a racist, why has he remained so popular in his home state with such a large black population?

They don't vote. After the tremendous struggle to vote and for equally bad (public) education, blacks have extremely poor voting records. I think someone noted that black turnout in FL 2000 was 10% of the total vote and 16% of the 2002. Granted, maybe a lot of whites and hispanics stayed at home but an increase like that in an off year election is ridiculous.

In general, Democrats take the black vote for granted and Republicans until very recently expect blacks to vote Democratic. As recently as the LA senate campaign GOP operatives have worked to suppress the black vote . . . usually misinformation campaigns.

So your answer is just like George Bush . . . Lott is popular amongst the majority that voted but they are a minority of the population.

And with all of that, how could a racist survive in office with such a large black population. The population must be content enough with the representation to a not vote him out of office or riot.....

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: Walleye
something about you have to spend money to vote. something I'm against, however i am in favor of a literacy requirement for voting, based entirely upon common sense.

Voting is a right. The only reason they can force you to register is to make sure you don't vote twice.