Originally posted by: CantedValve
51 out of 101 is a majority... as much as you like to disreagard him, the VP DOES get to vote when required.
Originally posted by: charrison
Don't confuse him/her with facts... that wouldnt be consistent with their claims. Actual VOTING RECORDS on the issues arent really relevant, they just like to scream that so they can hear themselves talk.Originally posted by: jahawkin
Originally posted by: CantedValve
Originally posted by: jahawkin
Doing nothing to suggest otherwise? So all else being equal, if there is no evidence of it, it must be true. Byrd hasnt done anything extraordinary to repent his prior position...Originally posted by: CantedValve
Originally posted by: jahawkin
But wait... this isnt supposed to be about his PRIOR RECORD. This is supposed to be about a comment he made 2 weeks ago.Originally posted by: CantedValve
Trent Lott didnt make that statement either. He has had to back pedal and apologize for a remark that was not intended to relate in anyway to racial issues. He was trying to say something NICE about a 100 YEAR OLD MAN ON HIS BIRTHDAY, and as always, it was interpreted completely against him.
If I ever see a conservative get the BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT, I will fall over dead (much to the pleasure if many here I would guess).
In this case, Lott does not get the benefit of the doubt due to his prior record.
Ahhh, so we REALLY see what it is about. There is no repentance, no "change of heart" when it comes to racism. Once a racist, always a racist.
If this is about his PRIOR RECORD, then why isnt Byrd in the hot seat?
There is a big difference between being a racist in the past, recanting and saying "being the in KKK was the biggest mistake of my life" (Byrd) and being a racist in the past, recanting, then do nothing to suggest otherwise (Lott).
I say, yes, lets look at prior record. Lets look at the record of all the judges Bush nominates. Lets look at Ashcroft's record.
I see when you suggest that we look at records, you focus only on Republicans. It is evident your motivation behind defaming a distinguished Senator. You arent worth debating anymore.
OK, lets look at everyone's records. The Repubs have a lot more skeletons in the closet on the issue of race than the Dems do. After all, they are the party of the "southern strategy."
You do realize that the republicans are responsable for passing most of the civils rights laws....
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: CantedValve
51 out of 101 is a majority... as much as you like to disreagard him, the VP DOES get to vote when required.
The VP only gets to vote to break ties
The VP being republican plays NO role in deciding committee make up
if the republicans only have 50 , they won't get more than the democrats on the committees, this is a very important part in deciding what bills get voted on and many other parts of how the senate works. the committees will be half republicans and half democrats, the VP doesn't get to vote to break ties in committee
dropping from 51 to 50 will be a BIG loss to the republicans
Originally posted by: jahawkin
If Lott goes, and the Gov. of Miss. appoints a Dem stand in, there is much speculation that Lincoln Chafee will go the way of Jeffords and the Dems will take control of the senate.
Originally posted by: jahawkin
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: Walleye
going into the election, there were 49 dem's, 49 repub's, and 2 indep's. Coming out, the Republicans gained about 3 seats. should Lott Resign, the Repub's would still hold the majority. No, it wouldnt be split down the middle.
not quite accurate
link
The makeup of the Senate in January will be 51 Republicans, 48 Democrats and one independent.
If Lott leaves, that will change to 50 Republicans, 49 Democrats and one Independent (that votes Democrat everytime {nearly}), ie a defacto Democrat
50 isn't a majority of 100, its half, 50%
50% isn't a majority
If Lott goes, and the Gov. of Miss. appoints a Dem stand in, there is much speculation that Lincoln Chafee will go the way of Jeffords and the Dems will take control of the senate.
§ 23-15-855. Elections to fill vacancies in office of U.S. Senator; interim appointments by Governor.
(1) If a vacancy shall occur in the office of United States Senator from Mississippi by death, resignation or otherwise, the Governor shall, within ten (10) days after receiving official notice of such vacancy, issue his proclamation for an election to be held in the state to elect a Senator to fill such unexpired term as may remain, provided the unexpired term is more than twelve (12) months and the election shall be held within ninety (90) days from the time the proclamation is issued and the returns of such election shall be certified to the Governor in the manner set out above for regular elections, unless the vacancy shall occur in a year that there shall be held a general state or congressional election, in which event the Governor's proclamation shall designate the general election day as the time for electing a Senator, and the vacancy shall be filled by appointment as hereinafter provided.
Originally posted by: charrison
You do realize that the republicans are responsable for passing most of the civils rights laws....
Ya right, like the ones LBJ signed, or the ones that were passed into law after Congress overrides Reagan's veto.
Originally posted by: CantedValve
It wont happen. Lott wont resign.
Originally posted by: jahawkin
Originally posted by: charrison
You do realize that the republicans are responsable for passing most of the civils rights laws....
Ya right, like the ones LBJ signed, or the ones that were passed into law after Congress overrides Reagan's veto.
Do a little research..or do you want the link that will make you look stupid?
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: CantedValve
It wont happen. Lott wont resign.
want to bet?
let's meet back here , say Wednesday evening
i bet you Lott is gone by then
From leadership, maybe (that is probably inevitable).Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: CantedValve
It wont happen. Lott wont resign.
want to bet?
let's meet back here , say Wednesday evening
i bet you Lott is gone by then
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: jahawkin
Originally posted by: charrison
You do realize that the republicans are responsable for passing most of the civils rights laws....
Ya right, like the ones LBJ signed, or the ones that were passed into law after Congress overrides Reagan's veto.
Do a little research..or do you want the link that will make you look stupid?
Please, make me look stupid. Show me where and how the Repubs are responsible for the passage of most of the civil rights laws.
Yeah... dont consider the slant though. Not only were they out for ratings, but they are also flaming liberals. He could be MLK, and if he was Republican, his whole life would have been a mistake.Originally posted by: jjsole
I just heard a short interview of the BET interviewer on cbs radio. He said something like:
"He kept saying he 'made a mistake'. But he didn't make just one mistake, his whole political career has been a mistake!"
hahaha...I guess the interview didn't go over too well for mr. Lott.
Originally posted by: jahawkinPlease, make me look stupid. Show me where and how the Repubs are responsible for the passage of most of the civil rights laws.
Originally posted by: classy
They are replaying the interview now. Man he looks bad. But I will say this. I think this might just get him to change. I always say somtimes it takes something bad to get people to change. I don't know. I kinda have mixed feelings. I don't think his beliefs will change, but his actions might.
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: CantedValve
It wont happen. Lott wont resign.
want to bet?
let's meet back here , say Wednesday evening
i bet you Lott is gone by then
Resigns from the senate or resigns for majority leader?
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: classy
They are replaying the interview now. Man he looks bad. But I will say this. I think this might just get him to change. I always say somtimes it takes something bad to get people to change. I don't know. I kinda have mixed feelings. I don't think his beliefs will change, but his actions might.
Has Byrd changed?
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: jahawkinPlease, make me look stupid. Show me where and how the Repubs are responsible for the passage of most of the civil rights laws.
You asked for it...Take some time to read and digest this.
Originally posted by: jahawkin
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: jahawkinPlease, make me look stupid. Show me where and how the Repubs are responsible for the passage of most of the civil rights laws.
You asked for it...Take some time to read and digest this.
Now you're the one making yourself look stupid. Democrats of today are equivalent to the Republicans of Lincoln's time, as far as civil rights goes. I thought this was commen knowledge.
Originally posted by: CantedValve
Yeah... dont consider the slant though. Not only were they out for ratings, but they are also flaming liberals. He could be MLK, and if he was Republican, his whole life would have been a mistake.Originally posted by: jjsole I just heard a short interview of the BET interviewer on cbs radio. He said something like: "He kept saying he 'made a mistake'. But he didn't make just one mistake, his whole political career has been a mistake!" hahaha...I guess the interview didn't go over too well for mr. Lott.
What kind of speech do you think Strom Thurmond will give at Lott's goodbye party?President Bush has decided not to intervene to save Sen. Trent Lott (Miss.) after concluding he has become an albatross to the party and no longer has any chance of surviving as Republican majority leader, administration sources said yesterday.
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: jahawkin
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: jahawkinPlease, make me look stupid. Show me where and how the Repubs are responsible for the passage of most of the civil rights laws.
You asked for it...Take some time to read and digest this.
Now you're the one making yourself look stupid. Democrats of today are equivalent to the Republicans of Lincoln's time, as far as civil rights goes. I thought this was commen knowledge.
The 1960s was Lincolns time?
The assumption here is that the comment made was intended to have racial characteristics. I dont see how you can assume that.Originally posted by: classy
They are replaying the interview now. Man he looks bad. But I will say this. I think this might just get him to change. I always say somtimes it takes something bad to get people to change. I don't know. I kinda have mixed feelings. I don't think his beliefs will change, but his actions might.