Tribes: Ascend has launched

[JamesV]

Downloaded it and played a few games. Wtf do all FPS's now have to have the whole "exp" BS? Turns me off so fast. Anyway, the actual gameplay is fastpaced kinda fun.

That is my issue with this, and nearly every other shooter these days.

It used to be everyone was on equal footing except skill and experience, but now when you see an enemy, you have wonder what unlocks they have, or they did beat you because of skill or because they have better perks unlocked. And the balance in games like BF3 is laughable - sure I can counter anything, but only if I have the right class/setup; if not I can counter it after I die by choosing the right class/setup - absolutely dumbest shit I've ever come across.

I used to love FPS games, and made a mod for the original Tribes, competed in ladders and tournaments through Vengeance, mapped for all the Tribes games, and literally spent hundreds if not thousands of hours playing Tribes, Battlefield, UT, etc.

Now I haven't played a competitive FPS since I put in 30 or so hours into BF3, and found I hated it. There simply are no good FPS games anymore, just a ton of CoD clones it seems; paint an elephant red, and it's still an elephant.

 

[Rambusted]

What's so bad about it? As a Tribes game it's 2 weapons per class, with a large focus on machine guns; Tribes is supposed to be 3-5 weapons per class with a large focus on things that aren't machine guns. As a F2P game you're cannon fodder (i.e. grind) for richer players that outright buy things. And if you are a rich player, then they'll be constantly releasing new weapons so that you keep having to pay up to stay current (a F2P arms race, if you will).

Agree about the chainguns too much of that, 5v5 arena I see some silly things like turrets being dropped and the tactical strike thing being used. I wish it wasnt free to play, I can do without the leveling and whatnot that goes along with it. But overall I actually really like the game and it is a far more worthy successor to the originals than tribes vengeance was. It's been 11 years since tribes 2 came out so i will take what I can get.

 

[Infraction Jack]

I managed to get it working acceptable with joy to key, it is a fun game.

 

[imaheadcase]

It is a nice looking game but they have half ass controller support.

Why would you use a controller for it???

 

[Infraction Jack]

A controller is much more comfortable to use.

 

[Throckmorton]

Aiming would be impossible with a controller. You really need good precision

 

[JeffMD]

James, play tribes some more. It isn't like that. Honestly this is why I like it. I'm not much of an attacker so I tend to play support and defense a lot. Easily my most annoying class is the infiltrator, and that is mostly because only engineers can deploy motion sensors and it is an expensive unlock, so even starting out engineers won't have them. Snipers do have a jamming system but snipers on flag or gen defense is a waste of a slot.

However even lunkering around with the basic jugernaut, I didn't feel like it was an over powered class compared to me. It was just a different challenge. Now instead of sitting on the gen and waiting for them to run in stealthed, I need to try to catch them near the entrance points before they stealth.

Between the jug and doombringer, I haven't found a one on one matchup where i felt I was always underpowered. Last night I had a raider who was a great gen attacker and took out most classes with ease, but by being cautious with staying near his grenade lobs and my armor absorbing a lot of splash damage, I was able to get in enough motor shots to scare him off or kill him.

So I guess we don't have alot of planet side players here, not surprising since the monthly pay model did scare alot of people off, so the leveling up to gain new classes is a new thing to a lot of people. Personaly I think it is a good way to get people to learn to play the classes they like and not be a jack of all trades, master of none.

 

[gorcorps]

A controller is much more comfortable to use.

In a game as fast moving as this... I don't see how you could use a controller. IMO there was no reason for them to support it at all.

 

[ViRGE]

What are you talking about, its easy to level up and get all the weapons. you don't have to pay for a single thing in the game. I have not paid a cent and i'm %60 done with all the Juggrtnaught upgrades.

You're grinding in a MP FPS, and you don't see the problem with that?

That is my issue with this, and nearly every other shooter these days.

It used to be everyone was on equal footing except skill and experience, but now when you see an enemy, you have wonder what unlocks they have, or they did beat you because of skill or because they have better perks unlocked. And the balance in games like BF3 is laughable - sure I can counter anything, but only if I have the right class/setup; if not I can counter it after I die by choosing the right class/setup - absolutely dumbest shit I've ever come across.

I used to love FPS games, and made a mod for the original Tribes, competed in ladders and tournaments through Vengeance, mapped for all the Tribes games, and literally spent hundreds if not thousands of hours playing Tribes, Battlefield, UT, etc.

Now I haven't played a competitive FPS since I put in 30 or so hours into BF3, and found I hated it. There simply are no good FPS games anymore, just a ton of CoD clones it seems; paint an elephant red, and it's still an elephant.

Preach on, brother! The idea that MP FPSes should be a game of pure skill has been supplanted by the need to implement pavlovian conditioning so that players never stop playing and will buy your DLC.

 

[Lifted]

Do I have to download it if I already have the beta installed, or will it update?

 

[Lifted]

A controller is much more comfortable to use.

Wow. How could anyone even attempt to play this game with a controller? The community is as hard core FPS as you get.

 

[Markbnj]

You're grinding in a MP FPS, and you don't see the problem with that?

Oh, come on. You're not "grinding" because "grinding" has the implication of doing something other than what you would be doing if you didn't feel you had to "grind." All you're doing in Tribes is playing the game and getting rewarded for longevity. It's no different than Battlefield.

 

[gorcorps]

You're grinding in a MP FPS, and you don't see the problem with that?
Preach on, brother! The idea that MP FPSes should be a game of pure skill has been supplanted by the need to implement pavlovian conditioning so that players never stop playing and will buy your DLC.

*shrugs* I didn't play that much of the original games but I'm having enough fun just with the default stuff. I feel I can hold my own with what I have and it hasn't felt unbalanced (yet). Plus a lot of other F2P games include powerful stuff that you can ONLY get from paying. From what I see everything is available to everybody, it's just a matter of if you want to pay to get it quicker. IMO it's fair and doesn't seem as awful.

 

[Nyati13]

Do I have to download it if I already have the beta installed, or will it update?

The beta version should update.

 

[ViRGE]

Oh, come on. You're not "grinding" because "grinding" has the implication of doing something other than what you would be doing if you didn't feel you had to "grind." All you're doing in Tribes is playing the game and getting rewarded for longevity. It's no different than Battlefield.

I loathe BF too for that reason.

 

[Markbnj]

I loathe BF too for that reason.

Fair enough. It's not everybody's cup of tea. But neither is it the harbinger of doom for FPS games .

 

[gorcorps]

I was more worried about them including the "aim down the sights" control that all shooters have anymore. Shooting from the hip without having to have the gun in your face felt good... reminded me of how shooters used to be.

 

[RayCathode]

Get the Medium Spinfusor for the Solider class free.

You'll need to create an account at this website to get it:
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At this moment there's over 8000 keys left.

 

[ViRGE]

Fair enough. It's not everybody's cup of tea. But neither is it the harbinger of doom for FPS games .

That's where I have to disagree. It would be okay if only some FPSes did it. But now it's like that in every major MP FPS that comes out.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Oh, come on. You're not "grinding" because "grinding" has the implication of doing something other than what you would be doing if you didn't feel you had to "grind." All you're doing in Tribes is playing the game and getting rewarded for longevity. It's no different than Battlefield.

Um...no one said it was ok in Battlefield either. All the games that do this are just..blah. In fact, none of these games hold my interest for very long because of this. It doesn't add to the longevity at all. It's an artificial way to draw the game out, but I suppose it goes in line with the "achievements" that is so popular right now. Just not my thing. Pokemon mentality sucks.

 

[gorcorps]

Um...no one said it was ok in Battlefield either. All the games that do this are just..blah. In fact, none of these games hold my interest for very long because of this. It doesn't add to the longevity at all. It's an artificial way to draw the game out, but I suppose it goes in line with the "achievements" that is so popular right now. Just not my thing. Pokemon mentality sucks.

Different for everybody. I liked it when it was newer like in CoD4:MW because it DID draw me in to the multiplayer more because of the unlocks. I found myself using weapons I wouldn't normally use to get those bonus points which made the game feel fresh longer. In old games like counter strike I'd just stick to the same loadout each time and I'd basically be in a rut.

That said I don't like how every MP game goes with the same model now. There's no other choices for people who don't like having everything open NOW. Or there's not many games that allow custom servers that have everything unlocked.

 

[Markbnj]

Um...no one said it was ok in Battlefield either. All the games that do this are just..blah. In fact, none of these games hold my interest for very long because of this.

Like I said, it's not everyone's cup of tea, and if you put BF in the "blah" category then it's definitely not yours.

 

[imaheadcase]

You're grinding in a MP FPS, and you don't see the problem with that?
Preach on, brother! The idea that MP FPSes should be a game of pure skill has been supplanted by the need to implement pavlovian conditioning so that players never stop playing and will buy your DLC.

How is grinding any different than making it to the next level, or picking up a certain weapon at a certain point in the game? Its not. Besides, its not a grind so point is moot.

 

[ViRGE]

How is grinding any different than making it to the next level, or picking up a certain weapon at a certain point in the game? Its not. Besides, its not a grind so point is moot.

Well for starters you'd be comparing a single player game to a competitive multiplayer game...

 

[SunnyD]

Get the Medium Spinfusor for the Solider class free.

You'll need to create an account at this website to get it:
http://www.mmorpg.com/giveaways.cfm/offer/330/Tribes-Ascend-Spinfusor-Gift-Keys.html

At this moment there's over 8000 keys left.

Oh fuck yes, thank you. My kills went from 2 or 3 per game to 8-10 per match just because I don't have to use the god damn assault rifle anymore.