igor_kavinski
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How about using this? https://www.amazon.com/DEEPCOOL-Surround-Effectively-Spillage-Processor/dp/B0C6TJ5C5L/Well first I have to add a bit more thermal paste.
How about using this? https://www.amazon.com/DEEPCOOL-Surround-Effectively-Spillage-Processor/dp/B0C6TJ5C5L/Well first I have to add a bit more thermal paste.
That's cool. Thanks.
That sounds good enough. Try getting the RAM running at CL28. As for PBO, it will probably result in an extra 4 to 7% performance boost if it's perfectly stable. I would enable it but then I don't do anything too critical on my gaming machines. If you value stability, leave PBO off.I did a mild oc, the chip is running at 5 and the ram is now at it's natural 6000.
Extra 4-7% from squeezing RAM timing sounds very optimistic. I think going turning on the entire XMP improves about about 4-5% (4800mhz -> 6000 mhz)That sounds good enough. Try getting the RAM running at CL28. As for PBO, it will probably result in an extra 4 to 7% performance boost if it's perfectly stable. I would enable it but then I don't do anything too critical on my gaming machines. If you value stability, leave PBO off.
I meant the curve optimizer.Extra 4-7% from squeezing RAM timing sounds very optimistic.
Yeah I had some seriously heart pounding misadventures too where I was left wondering at the blank screen if my PC was ever gonna boot again but the worst was I had to unplug the PSU for a while and then the UEFI recovered and showed a message saying boot failed. Other than that, it was more time-consuming than causing some kind of damage to PC. I recently learned that it's far easier to just select the desired CAS latency and let everything else be on AUTO and the mobo will try its best to configure the rest. Got down to DDR5-6000 CL28 on my 12700K this way, with a Teamgroup DDR5-7600 CL34 kit (it was almost stable at CL34 7000 but FFXV benchmark kept getting kicked back to desktop or crashing silently due to some instability so gave up on that).I'm getting PTSD flashbacks about boot hanging. I'm not touching RAM again as long as the advertised EXPO works.
I'll check the screenshots when I get home to answer that.Hi you're telling me 6000 cl28 is faster than 7600 cl34? By how much in games?
Isn't that kind of high for idle for a 7800x3D? Something something sounds off.
How many case fans do you have installed? Maybe they don't have an optimal arrangement. I see the R5 has the possibility for front hard drive cages that could impede fresh air intake from the front, and the front panel isn't much better, being mostly solid with tiny vents on the side to provide that fresh airflow. Thus, the air going predominantly into your cooler would be the warmed, GPU exhaust air.I have a Fractal Define R5 mid-tower case, the mobo is mini-ATX so lots of extra space, and there is tons of airflow, as that case has good wiring so most wires are tucked away or behind the mobo.
I have the cooler I mentioned and the upgraded fans. Used Arctis MX-4 and tried it with different amounts and this is the best I can do, using the rice grain method. I have messed around with the fan speeds on the intake fans and exhaust fans, and also tried stock fan settings. This is the best this chip does or I'm missing something. People online do say they can run hot. Under true 100% load they basically don't go above 85 which seems to be solid. But I dunno. I'm not used to a 51 idle.
Ambient temps are 74-75 degrees at the moment.
How many case fans do you have installed? Maybe they don't have an optimal arrangement. I see the R5 has the possibility for front hard drive cages that could impede fresh air intake from the front, and the front panel isn't much better, being mostly solid with tiny vents on the side to provide that fresh airflow. Thus, the air going predominantly into your cooler would be the warmed, GPU exhaust air.
I would consider having fans in the two red spots, and then maybe a fan at one of the green spots. The red fans will give fresh air to your CPU cooler and help exhaust it out of the case.
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I have only screenshots for FFXV benchmark and Unigine Superposition and both don't seem to care much about RAM speed or latency so got roughly similar scores between 6000 and 7000 MT/s. I got the highest score in FFXV benchmark by going from DDR5-6000 CL28 to CL80, if you can believe thatHi you're telling me 6000 cl28 is faster than 7600 cl34? By how much in games?
This chip runs hot! I reset the heatsink, and I also replaced the stock Thermaltake fans on the heatsink with two Noctua NF-F12 fans, their best fans for radiator usage vs for case fan usage.
In a 74 degree home I'm idling at 51c. Running stress tests with Cinebench on all cores or with the Ryzen Master stress test which just pegs every core at 100%, I basically run at 83-85. I also undervolted a bit. I have the Thermaltake Phantom Spirit 120 Evo, which everyone said is one of the best coolers out now. Competes with the top end Noctuas.
Ram is oc'd to 6000, chip goes up to 4850 but average around 47 something.
Could also be a leaky die which means it should hit higher frequencies.51C idle for 7800X3D seems hot.
Anything in the Event Viewer or using BlueScreen Viewer to review minidumps (Windows has a few places it likes to put mini dumps - I found mine when I was having random GPU-induced crashes here: C:\Windows\LiveKernelReports)? Could point to what might be the underlying issue. If you were able to, I'd suggest trying to turn off the GPU acceleration in Lightroom Classic.Having serious issues with this chip now. I have reset the CMOS and loaded up with all the stock settings but no matter what, Lightroom Classic crashes the whole computer. Doesn't just crash the program, the whole computer crashes. I'm thinking it's the CPU? I just emailed B&H to see if I can change this fora new one tomorrow. Thoughts?
wow thanks. I had just updated the drivers for my 6600xt and disabling the GPU in LR seems to have fixed it as I have just edited two photos in a row lolAnything in the Event Viewer or using BlueScreen Viewer to review minidumps (Windows has a few places it likes to put mini dumps - I found mine when I was having random GPU-induced crashes here: C:\Windows\LiveKernelReports)? Could point to what might be the underlying issue. If you were able to, I'd suggest trying to turn off the GPU acceleration in Lightroom Classic.
I was thinking you had an older version of Lightroom (real "classic"), thus, it might not play well with newer things. Though, I have version 6.14 installed and it's fine with the GPU-assisted hardware acceleration turned on with a 7800 XT (and formerly a 6600).wow thanks. I had just updated the drivers for my 6600xt and disabling the GPU in LR seems to have fixed it as I have just edited two photos in a row lol
you are a lifesaver.