Trinity prices leaked

[AtenRa]

BLT has released AMDs Trinity price list.

Trinity specs,

K models (5400, 5600 and 5800) are multiplier unlocked.

 

[piesquared]

Wow That's pretty strong pricing pressure. Must be getting pretty good production from GF.
Its clear now that AMD is timing the major launches with the release of Win 8, they've done it for practically every major OS release Micfosoft has had.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

HD 7660D GPU for $130 is impressive...

 

[pelov]

HD 7660D GPU for $130 is impressive...

Yep.

And to think that a few months ago people were saying that we were still 3-4 years away from seeing an APU capable of playing games at 1080p with decent frame rates and settings. If you go by the graphs above, we'll have reached that milestone by Kaveri next year.

What I dislike, though, is that their on-die GPUs fair far better on the desktop than they do on laptops. That TDP hamstring really kicks 'em in the butt

 

[AnonymouseUser]

What I dislike, though, is that their on-die GPUs fair far better on the desktop than they do on laptops. That TDP hamstring really kicks 'em in the butt

There are limitations, of course, but at least respectable gaming at budget laptop pricing is finally a reality.

 

[sandorski]

Nice prices.

 

[micrometers]

Too bad I already built an intel system.

 

[Arkadrel]

That A10-5800k for 130$, seems pretty decent actually.

The test system Tom's hardware used (in above pics by pelov), was useing DDR-1600.
Throw in some DDR3-1866 or DRR3-2133 and then overclock the IGP

The Llano could overclock that IGP pretty well, it became a completly differnt chip when that happend.
I wanna see what a A10-5800k can do once overclocked, and with some speedy ram (1866 or 2133).

Atleast 1866, since you can get 4 GB (2x2gb sticks) of DDR3-1866 (9-9-9-9-24) for 27$ on newegg.

 

[Dark Shroud]

Another plus is these will make low end off the shelf PCs not absolute garbage.

 

[NTMBK]

Looks like they could be the choice for entry level gaming machines. I built my sister a Llano based desktop rig for Christmas last year, and it's doing her nicely (she likes her games, but she's not a graphics junkie and tends to pick up retro titles).

 

[dx11101]

which 7xxx series card will it crossfire with/?

 

[Centauri]

Is it just me, or does the 5700 seem to be the best all around processor given its 65w TDP? The 5800 doesn't seem to provide much more kick given how much thirstier it is...

 

[Gigantopithecus]

There goes Intel from the budget/low-mid range gaming market.

 

[Soleron]

Is it just me, or does the 5700 seem to be the best all around processor given its 65w TDP? The 5800 doesn't seem to provide much more kick given how much thirstier it is...

Actual power consumption will be a lot closer; 65W is a more of a guarantee of lower power than anything special about the chip. If you downclocked the higher one it would be within 65W most likely.

 

[Centauri]

Ah, okay. I always thought it was more cut and dry; peak draw v peak draw.

So does anybody have any idea what the street date on Trinity is gonna be? Because I've been waiting for months to build a system around it...

 

[Phynaz]

There goes Intel from the budget/low-mid range gaming market.

The wise never count Intel out from any market they wish to be in.

Intel doesn't like the budget market anyway, there's not enough profit in it for them.

 

[piesquared]

The wise never count Intel out from any market they wish to be in.

Intel doesn't like the budget market anyway, there's not enough profit in it for them.

Huh??

I hope you aren't suggesting that all of intels past failures were because, they simply didn't want to compete there. They wanted to fail. Doesn't seem to make much sense.

And why would you think intel doesn't want to compete in the high volume markets. Its where marketshare is won or lost.

 

[Phynaz]

And why would you think intel doesn't want to compete in the high volume markets. Its where marketshare is won or lost.

I didn't say I volume did I? I said budget (you may know it as cheap). Look at AMD's margins. Now look at Intel's margins. Intel's shareholders expect those high margins. Intel isn't going to enter a market where they can't maintain their margins. As IDC said, it's why they got out of the HDTV business.

Number of chips produced is not only way to measure market share. It's probably more important to measure market share in dollars or profit. Not that Intel is low volume. They currently produce about a million chips a day, seven days a week.

I hope you aren't suggesting that all of intels past failures were because, they simply didn't want to compete there. They wanted to fail. Doesn't seem to make much sense.

Again, I never said what you are saying I did, as I never said anything about either companies market failures.

Do you really want to go there in this thread? Because this isn't the place for it.

 

[VulgarDisplay]

These things will be simply AMAZING for an extra gaming PC in the living. At 720p on a big screen that's enough gaming performance for people to get a great HTPC on the cheap. Very intriguing.

 

[Mopetar]

There goes Intel from the budget/low-mid range gaming market.

They'll still be around, but they won't put too much pressure on AMD. If AMD goes belly up, Intel would end up being a de facto monopoly. They'd much rather have AMD stick around, especially if AMD isn't competitive in any of the high-margin market segments.

That said, impressive prices for that level of performance. Definitely the go to CPU for a budget gaming rig.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

They'll still be around, but they won't put too much pressure on AMD. If AMD goes belly up, Intel would end up being a de facto monopoly. They'd much rather have AMD stick around, especially if AMD isn't competitive in any of the high-margin market segments.

That said, impressive prices for that level of performance. Definitely the go to CPU for a budget gaming rig.

Sure. My comment was a reflection of the fact that given these prices and the APUs' performance levels for those prices, there really aren't any compelling reasons for a DIY builder to buy any Intel chips for those market segments.

 

[nismotigerwvu]

They'll still be around, but they won't put too much pressure on AMD. If AMD goes belly up, Intel would end up being a de facto monopoly. They'd much rather have AMD stick around, especially if AMD isn't competitive in any of the high-margin market segments.

That said, impressive prices for that level of performance. Definitely the go to CPU for a budget gaming rig.

This.

Intel has no reason to land a death blow on AMD. AMD is all but nonexistent in Intel's high profit margin markets and leaving the less desirable ones to AMD is cheaper in the long run than dealing with the legal side of a monopoly. Also, keeping AMD around ensures more X86 chips are sold and that it stays the dominant ISA.Also, for the occasional time that AMD punches above its weight, Intel gets to inherit free tech (X64 for example). It would be a mutually beneficial situation if AMD could work out a mean to turn a profit as a company with the markets they compete in.

 

[piesquared]

I didn't say I volume did I? I said budget (you may know it as cheap). Look at AMD's margins. Now look at Intel's margins. Intel's shareholders expect those high margins. Intel isn't going to enter a market where they can't maintain their margins. As IDC said, it's why they got out of the HDTV business.

Number of chips produced is not only way to measure market share. It's probably more important to measure market share in dollars or profit. Not that Intel is low volume. They currently produce about a million chips a day, seven days a week.



Again, I never said what you are saying I did, as I never said anything about either companies market failures.

Do you really want to go there in this thread? Because this isn't the place for it.

Lol whatever dud

You may not be aware, but budget has a tendancy to be high volume.

 

[Phynaz]

Lol whatever dud

You may not be aware, but budget has a tendancy to be high volume.

Awesome post, "Dude".

How's AMD doing in those high volume markets? Lot's of zero profit still adds up to zero profit. There's a saying in sales that you have heard me say before: He who lives by price dies by price.

Here's what high margin gets Intel: They make as much money in 9 hours as AMD makes in an entire quarter.

Or, look at AMD in the graphics market. Nvidia is holding their prices and making boatloads. AMD is lowering their prices and doing what? Breaking even? Yeah going down market doesn't look to be a real sustainable business model. (Although it did push me into buying a 7850)

The sooner you learn this stuff the sooner you will come to realize that AMD needs to get out of the basement.

 

[Roland00Address]

which 7xxx series card will it crossfire with/?

The best card you can crossfire with a a10 with 7660d is the 7670 1gb gddr5. The 7670 1gb gddr5 is just a renamed 6670 1gb gddr5

7660d apu has 384 shaders (384 vliw 4 which means 96 clusters) at 800 mhz shader clock
7670 dedicated has 480 shaders (480 vliw 5 which means 96 clusters) at 800 mhz shader clock.

The 7660d and 6670 will be pretty close on shader power, problem is most likely the 7660d will be memory bandwidth starve with only dual channel ddr3 memory. It will most likely perform closer to the 6570 ddr3 card (which has been renamed 7570 in oem land) due to the memory bandwidth and the very small drop in performance from vliw5 to vliw4.

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I am curious how asymmetric crossfire works in reality with the a10 and the 6570 and 6670. The first gen with llano had a lot of bugs, hopefully this gen will improve it. It is nice that you can get an a10 for around $130 and the 6570 ddr3 for about $60 or the 6670 for about $90. Then again you can get a 7770 for $120 now which is 60% to 100% faster than the 6670 gddr5. (All these prices do not take into factor MIR)