Heh, when your Intel is not in front you dont care about today's hardware. Im sorry to brake it to you but HW will have hard time overcome even Trinity's iGPU in games not to mention Kaveri's GCN.
LOL! Your delusional. Neither IVB or Trinity are Good enough so at this moment in time . Idon't really care about whats available at this time . Now If Haswell is as good as some think . I may become interested in iGPU. But for now . Its good enough for everthing BUT gaming. I want the whole package . Lets see if haswell is that combination thats changes the compute world forever.
Im sorry to brake it to you but HW will have hard time overcome even Trinity's iGPU in games not to mention Kaveri's GCN.
Eh, we'll have to wait and see. If HSW 'just' offers a similar improvement over IVB in 3dmark vantage as IVB did to SNB, then yeah, it'll remain inferior to Trinity's iGPU in some games and comparable to Kaveri in others. However there's always the possibility that Intel might have recognized their shortcomings in the SNB design and actually addressed them in HSW (feedback cycle would have been too short for IVB to properly fix major micro-architectural issues.) If that's the case then AMD could certainly be in trouble as Intel's problem with SNB and IVB is primarily that the iGPU is imbalanced/bottlenecked in some areas by comparison - on the workloads where they aren't hitting those issues IVB is already comparable to Trinity.
Have to remember that it's a lot easier for Intel to double or triple performance than it is for AMD. It's not likely that Intel will catch up from a pure GPU design standpoint, just as AMD isn't likely to catch up on the CPU side... but Intel's process advantage could easily make up for that deficiency once they get their architecture up to a certain point of diminishing returns.
The systems should be in place and qualified by the end of July, with about half of them installed today, McCann said. The company aims to run its first 20 nm test wafers with TSVs in October and have data on packaged chips from its partners by the end of the year.
GlobalFoundries schedule calls for having reliability data in hand early next year. The data will be used to update the companys process design kits so its customers can start their qualification tests in the first half of the year.
If all goes well, first commercial product runs of 20 and 28 nm wafers with TSVs can start in the second half of 2013 and ramp into full production in 2014, McCann said.
So far, three types of chip designs want to use TSVs. High-end mobile application processors will use TSVs to link to memories, high-end graphics and CPUs with use it to link to DRAMs and memory stacks that may or may not include any logic also will use TSVs, McCann said. All three classes could be in production in 2014, he said.
GlobalFoundries installs gear for 20-nm TSVs
The systems should be in place and qualified by the end of July, with about half of them installed today, McCann said. The company aims to run its first 20 nm test wafers with TSVs in October and have data on packaged chips from its partners by the end of the year.
GlobalFoundries schedule calls for having reliability data in hand early next year. The data will be used to update the companys process design kits so its customers can start their qualification tests in the first half of the year.
If all goes well, first commercial product runs of 20 and 28 nm wafers with TSVs can start in the second half of 2013 and ramp into full production in 2014, McCann said.
This thread is about Trinity and APUs, my quote above was related to APUs and what to expect from AMD and GloFo in the next one or two year in the APU front.
uh huh...For people arquing that HD4000 will perform the same from the High end CPUs to the lower end dual core i3 etc or in mobile, have a look at the links bellow and compare Gaming benchmarks bettwen Intel Core i7 3720QM 45W HD4000 vs Intel i5 3427U 17W HD4000.
Intel Dual-Core Mobile Ivy Bridge Launch and i5-3427U Ultrabook Preview
uh huh...
HD4000 has about 160% more execution resources than the HD4000. Yet it delivers only about 70% more performance in games.
For people arquing that HD4000 will perform the same from the High end CPUs to the lower end dual core i3 etc or in mobile,
For people arquing that HD4000 will perform the same from the High end CPUs to the lower end dual core i3 etc or in mobile, have a look at the links bellow and compare Gaming benchmarks bettwen Intel Core i7 3720QM 45W HD4000 vs Intel i5 3427U 17W HD4000.
The AMD Trinity Review (A10-4600M): A New Hope
Intel Dual-Core Mobile Ivy Bridge Launch and i5-3427U Ultrabook Preview
What I find more interesting is the 2nd slowest of the four 17W IB process (i5-3427U) is faster then the fastest (A10-4600M) Trinity on the CPU side at both single and multi threaded apps. I really expected Trinity to at least be able to win the multi-threaded benchs. That doesn't bode well for the 17W Trinity with half the cores and slower clocks on the CPU side.Along with the lower TDPs of Trinity are lower CPU and GPU clocks, though, so while Trinity is clearly more potent for graphics applications at standard voltages, dont expect the low voltage trinity parts to be quite as fastand the A6-4455M loses a large number of Radeon cores, so its performance is really hard to guess at without hardware in hand.
When viewing a good quality Avi file , in that case Stevie Wonder Live at BBC,
CPU utilisation in the task manager with my old 1.6G P4 is lower than with my
DC T4400 2.2G and both have a discrete GPU.
Guess why....
I'm going to guess that there's a dedicated AMD GPU in the P4 laptop, and integrated graphics in the C2D laptop.
Honestly, that's irrelevant today, as both Intel and AMD now do a good job at hardware-accelerated video, AFAIK.
The pentium 4 has a radeon 7500 (!!) 32mb
while the T4400 has a Gforce GT 320m 1gb.
Sometime things are weird...
Heh, maybe I'll actually get a 9700 this go around
they just announced Brazos 2.0 and....yep another paper launch.
Intel is killing them at computex