Trinity review

[Idontcare]

hehe...the leaks started...

Seriously though after all the BS we went through with AMD leading up to Bulldozer's release, this could be a marketing slide hosted straight from AMD's website and I still wouldn't believe one iota of it.

I'll believe in Piledriver's abilities when I see the cold hard bench results from a 3rd party reviewer like Anand.

Until then, leaked or straight from AMD's mouth, not gonna waste my time putting much stock in the claims.

(that said, I'll still go looking for the leaks so I can read about them because it is fun to contemplate the "what if" scenarios and outcomes, so don't take my negativity to be all that)

 

[frozentundra123456]

Seriously though after all the BS we went through with AMD leading up to Bulldozer's release, this could be a marketing slide hosted straight from AMD's website and I still wouldn't believe one iota of it.

I'll believe in Piledriver's abilities when I see the cold hard bench results from a 3rd party reviewer like Anand.

Until then, leaked or straight from AMD's mouth, not gonna waste my time putting much stock in the claims.

(that said, I'll still go looking for the leaks so I can read about them because it is fun to contemplate the "what if" scenarios and outcomes, so don't take my negativity to be all that)

I agree totally about waiting for reliable reviews. The other thing I don't understand is why they did not incorporate some of these improvements in bulldozer. It is not like they didn't have years of development
and several delays to give them time to do it. They must have realized the weaknesses of the architecture.

 

[Homeles]

I agree totally about waiting for reliable reviews. The other thing I don't understand is why they did not incorporate some of these improvements in bulldozer. It is not like they didn't have years of development
and several delays to give them time to do it. They must have realized the weaknesses of the architecture.

Bulldozer was quite rushed. They really didn't have all the time in the world, considering how many changes they were making.

We've already seen Piledriver's performance in Trinity... I don't know why anyone remotely skeptical, since we already know what it can do vs. K10.5.

 

[Phynaz]

Bulldozer was quite rushed. They really didn't have all the time in the world

Four years was rushed?

 

[podspi]

Are we in bizarro world or have I traveled back in time? Piledriver cores are in Trinity. Why are we even discussing questionable marketing slides for a product we have legitimate benchmarks for?!

Yea, Vishera could be a bit faster, but we'll see. I doubt average IPC will be much higher. No IGP + triple-digit TDP could make for some silly-high clocks, though.

 

[Gikaseixas]

Seriously though after all the BS we went through with AMD leading up to Bulldozer's release, this could be a marketing slide hosted straight from AMD's website and I still wouldn't believe one iota of it.

I'll believe in Piledriver's abilities when I see the cold hard bench results from a 3rd party reviewer like Anand.

Until then, leaked or straight from AMD's mouth, not gonna waste my time putting much stock in the claims.

(that said, I'll still go looking for the leaks so I can read about them because it is fun to contemplate the "what if" scenarios and outcomes, so don't take my negativity to be all that)

Several sites tested Trinity and at least the power savings improvements are noticeable...

 

[AtenRa]

Yeap, Intel HD4000 has catch up AMDs APUs

http://www.techspot.com/review/532-diablo-3-performance/page3.html

 

[Phynaz]

Dude, the cherry picked benches are getting really, really old.

 

[Abwx]

Dude, the cherry picked benches are getting really, really old.

A 3770k compared to an almost oudated A6 3500.

You are right.

 

[AtenRa]

Dude, the cherry picked benches are getting really, really old.

Well,
LOL_Wut_Axel was telling us that Skyrim is the only PC game that people play this days (because Intel was in front).
Now that Diablo III is the fastest PC selling game of all times, i guess that Trinity and Llano is the best platform for Laptop users.

Sorry for that, but i had to do it

 

[Olikan]

ok, so a charlie review of the arquitecture...

http://semiaccurate.com/2012/05/25/trinity-is-more-than-the-sum-of-its-parts/

highlight:

there is more execution capability than decode, but the improvements to the front end mean the gap is considerably smaller on the second generation core. It is a pain point that won’t be properly addressed until steamroller

 

[pelov]

They haven't addressed the decoder width issue yet.

I think it'll be interesting to see what they do with Steamroller. Shorter pipeline with faster caches? From the looks of Piledriver it looks like the IMC hasn't been tweaked at all besides the bump to support 1600mhz memory and whatever it goes to now on the desktop. If AMD want their APUs to perform well the IMC better be one of the strongest parts of the Steamroller architecture otherwise they're screwed.

 

[Phynaz]

A 3770k compared to an almost oudated A6 3500.

You are right.

What name do you post under at AMDZone?

 

[Lonbjerg]

You real point is that you re just showing how ridiculous you are.

HD7520G is a cut down version of low end Trinity s INTEGRATED GPU....

So there s no discrete GPU in this LT.

Edit : there a dual switchable gfx version...

http://www.laptopspirit.fr/110357/h...trinity-a8-quad-core-6-go-hd7670m-usb-30.html

Foot in mouth eh.
But again:

Why does this comes with a GPU...wasn't the IGP enough...isn't that the point of this whole thread?

 

[Arzachel]

Foot in mouth eh.
But again:

Why does this comes with a GPU...wasn't the IGP enough...isn't that the point of this whole thread?

Because you can use the iGPU for everyday tasks and light gaming and switch to the discrete GPU when you need a larger punch and don't have to run off battery?

 

[frozentundra123456]

Well,
LOL_Wut_Axel was telling us that Skyrim is the only PC game that people play this days (because Intel was in front).
Now that Diablo III is the fastest PC selling game of all times, i guess that Trinity and Llano is the best platform for Laptop users.

Sorry for that, but i had to do it

Well, actually the best platform is an Intel CPU with a discrete card.
Sorry, just had to do that!

 

[AtenRa]

Well, actually the best platform is an Intel CPU with a discrete card.
Sorry, just had to do that!

Sorry but i have to remind you, we are talking about APUs and integrated GPUs here.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Sorry but i have to remind you, we are talking about APUs and integrated GPUs here.

Sorry, but either the HD4000 or Trinity are pretty mediocre for gaming. I just can only read so many of your pro-AMD statements before I finally have to respond negatively.

 

[Arzachel]

Sorry, but either the HD4000 or Trinity are pretty mediocre for gaming. I just can only read so many of your pro-AMD statements before I finally have to respond negatively.

I don't know how to respond because "gaming", and especially "hardcore gaming" are such loaded terms. iGPUs can be far better for "gaming" than any dedicated GPU if the usage case is right.

 

[lau808]

I don't know how to respond because "gaming", and especially "hardcore gaming" are such loaded terms. iGPUs can be far better for "gaming" than any dedicated GPU if the usage case is right.

could you elaborate on this? I'm not sure what you mean. and this is not a negative post, i'm just a curious guy that loves reading everyone's opinions.

 

[AtenRa]

Sorry, but either the HD4000 or Trinity are pretty mediocre for gaming.

For your standards, other people find them acceptable

I just can only read so many of your pro-AMD statements before I finally have to respond negatively.

I havent seen you complain about the pro-Intel statements in this thread before, i guess you are Intel biased :whiste:

 

[wlee15]

The a10-4600m at idle runs at 1.4 ghz with 0.275V, how is that even possible?

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1931/2/

 

[Riek]

The a10-4600m at idle runs at 1.4 ghz with 0.275V, how is that even possible?

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1931/2/

error in cpu-z

 

[Martimus]

Sorry, but either the HD4000 or Trinity are pretty mediocre for gaming. I just can only read so many of your pro-AMD statements before I finally have to respond negatively.

Have you ever used an A8 on a laptop? I bought one for my daughter, and I can't disagree more. The only issues I have with it is actually with the less than great keyboard on the laptop. Fantastic chip for all games at the 13x9 resolution of the laptop. I could play everything at max settings as well. I was quite impressed.

 

[Abwx]

Foot in mouth eh.
But again:

Why does this comes with a GPU...wasn't the IGP enough...isn't that the point of this whole thread?

Given the price it s like there s an added discrete GFX for free ,
i suppose that it s some quite of bundle..

Why not , that s more versatile and if price stay low
it doesnt hurt...