Sounds like WOKE policy to me.From CNN:
The $52.6 billion plan to save the NYC region from climate change
The New York and New Jersey Harbor and Tributaries Study, also known as the HATS study, looks at how to protect the NYC area from another Hurricane Sandy. The Army Corps of Engineers is recommending a $52.6 billion plan to protect the region from climate change including seawalls, levees and elevated promenades. Watch the video to find out more about what the plan entails and why the price tag is so high.
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That's just one city, for 50 years of protection. Southern Florida is beyond hope. I imagine Miami is going to become an island behind sea walls - if they have any brains.
CNN article about tempsThank you. I did know. Ran that experiment in high school (dry bulb/wet bulb). Anyway, I also checked the Wikipedia article you posted earlier this morning - making sure I hadn't regressed to an idiot level understanding. My humans as 'wet-bulbs' comment was tongue-in-cheek.
And, it is one of the most dangerous risks to human life as we fail to adequately cut greenhouse emissions (that and floods). I was watching a anthropologist who specializes in climate change make the point that humans never developed in such a way to react to long term, slow moving threats (we eventually just roamed looking for better food and water resources, etc.). Education is the key - but in the US, the majority of people either don't trust, or do not understand researched based scientific evidence.
you'd have better luck finding the secret to alchemy and turning farm fecal matter into platinum and gold.The real question here is when the Republicans finally accept that climate change is real
A 90 degree wet bulb is so insane. Wet bulb was around 86 the day last month I posted this, which was the grossest day I had ever experienced and maybe the nastiest day the San Antonio, Tx area has seen since Chicxulub tbh.To clarify, if this was an unknown term to you:
View attachment 83168Wet-bulb temperature - Wikipedia
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It's predicted that if there's extreme wet bulb conditions in a region (esp a high population density region) and power fails, theoretically hundreds of thousands to millions could die within a day.
From the weather station a couple of blocks away
I figured. The message is always relevant though.@[DHT]Osiris
My comment was partially in jest, but that's damn scary stuff.
And if it's deadly to humans, think of the wildlife.
Wonder if the formula I used or the one he used is wrong. Formula I found for wet bulb showed a bit under 86F but that map is showing more like 89F for my area. Can't believe it actually got significantly worse than 105F air temperature with 78F dewpoint in Mississippi.Already happening. Note that water breaks don't help you in wet bulb event conditions.
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I am extremely confused. WTF are you guys citing 80 degrees as if that isn't a cool summer day?Already happening. Note that water breaks don't help you in wet bulb event conditions.
Humidity.I am extremely confused. WTF are you guys citing 80 degrees as if that isn't a cool summer day?
And the South LIVES in 90s all summer long from May to Oct.
So why are these numbers being mentioned at all?
Redundant, was already talking about the South.Humidity.
A 90 degree wet bulb is so insane.
Redundant, was already talking about the South.
I never heard wet bulb until here and now, in this topic.
It makes no sense. Something under 90 degrees will never be a deadly heat wave.
Now... the South is hot and humid every summer. But they're talking numbers that are WELL below expectations for anything of note.
To clarify, I am asking, what is this?
Redundant, was already talking about the South.
I never heard wet bulb until here and now, in this topic.
It makes no sense. Something under 90 degrees will never be a deadly heat wave.
Now... the South is hot and humid every summer. But they're talking numbers that are WELL below expectations for anything of note.
To clarify, I am asking, what is this?
Right.... but these numbers make no sense.SteveGrabowski linked to the Wikipedia article explaining Wet-bulb temperature in post #131.
Even heat-adapted people cannot carry out normal outdoor activities past a wet-bulb temperature of 32 °C (90 °F), equivalent to a heat index of 55 °C (131 °F). A reading of 35 °C (95 °F) – equivalent to a heat index of 71 °C (160 °F) – is considered the theoretical human survivability limit for up to six hours of exposure.[3][4]
That's the whole point. An average 'hot, humid' day in Louisiana (today, for instance) is 97, with 56% humidity. Water absorbs a lot of energy so if it's more humid, it tends to be a little cooler, so on Sunday when it's going to be 71% humidity, it's only going to be 88. That's the principal behind swamp coolers for instance. Now per this calculator, today's wet bulb temp is 83.72f, pretty unpleasant but quite survivable if you are drinking water/hitting the shade some. Sunday will be 80.22, so even better.Right.... but these numbers make no sense.
90 and 95 degrees are not going to reach a heat index of 130 or 160.
Right?
105f with a dewpoint of 78f is a heat index of 125f. Working backwards, that's a humidity of around 45%, which is a wet bulb of around 86.5f so yeah your calcs might be right. You could have had a microclimate that got hotter though, or just a measurement from a different elevation.Wonder if the formula I used or the one he used is wrong. Formula I found for wet bulb showed a bit under 86F but that map is showing more like 89F for my area. Can't believe it actually got significantly worse than 105F air temperature with 78F dewpoint in Mississippi.
Is that end of days I am looking at? Within a decade or so?