Tropes vs. Women Author Driven From Home

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jruchko

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How about you explain it yourself instead of making me suffer through even more YT? Surely it can't be that hard to explain. No matter how much you don't like her for whatever reason or whatever she does outside of YT, her videos are quite on topic about gaming and not about herself.

I don't think you fully understand just how much there is to go through. I am not going to sit here and type out pages of text when you could just watch one 10 minute video. There are also a lot of others, not only from his channel, but there are other channels, and reddit had quite a few threads where people discussed her videos and how she takes things out of context, or fully misrepresents scenarios in a game.

I just don't care enough about this whole thing to type out a huge reply. You can watch it or not, it doesn't matter to me.

I implore you to not do this.
It's swapping one youtube attention whore for another, both monetize on one disagreeing with the other.
Trolling on youtube has become a major industry, and by watching either of these pro trolls videos, you contribute to the problem.

The trolls will only disappear, when people literally stop feeding them.

(Yes, you could argue that they're not technically trolls, since they derive their money from those that agree with them, as opposed to from those they're getting a rise out of -- but the method and value to society are almost exactly the same)

Thunderf00ts issue started with the whole Rebecca Watson thing, before that he was purely focused on debating religion and doing science videos. I think after he watched the Atheist community on youtube get absolutely destroyed by social justice warriors (Rebecca Watson and company) he shifted focus onto something which he thinks "poisons everything".
 
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thedosbox

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Worth noting that the guys behind the "sarkeesianeffect" patreon campaign have a tier where you get to "party in vegas"** with them. If you're a sucker enough to give them $2,000 a month :awe:



** doesn't include food, drink or gambling - what a bargain!
 
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nehalem256

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Yeah, and men liking someone else picking the cotton isn't racist.
Shall we tell ourselves some other lies? I heard some great ones about Grendel and his mother.

So you are claiming that sexual attraction is sexist?

Well completely screwed up I think we all know why feminists might want to make such an insane claim
 

Nebor

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Jun 24, 2003
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Yeah, and men liking someone else picking the cotton isn't racist.
Shall we tell ourselves some other lies? I heard some great ones about Grendel and his mother.

You're the perfect example of a social justice warrior. Thank you.
 

CakeMonster

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Nov 22, 2012
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You're the perfect example of a social justice warrior. Thank you.

How about you address the topic with actual arguments instead of throwing politically charged labels at people. Nobody asked to be informed about your political antipathies. A bad analogy or invalid argument is easily refuted with facts and logic, instead of being condescending and political about it.
 

PrincessFrosty

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This is the same nonsense we see from almost all feminists and SJWs. Some trolls, possibly not even gamers, tweet her death threats and nasty stuff in order to illicit a response, she's either not savvy enough with the internet and too naive to recognize this or deliberately leveraging these threats to spin a narrative in order to gain publicity.

The simple fact is that most people with an online presence who make controversial content attract trolls and angry people, this is nothing specific to her if you go look at anyone that's big in the public eye you'll find they get the same thing, male or female, gamer or not. It's only the SJWs and more predominantly the feminists who use this to spin a threat narrative.

It should be noted that Anita is a liar and a con artist, she lied about being a gamer and was caught on video admitting she wasn't a gamer and doesn't even like games - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcPIu3sDkEw

She scammed $160,000 on kick starter to make a series of 12 videos on July 2012 and over 2 years later we still only have 5, there has been no notable change in quality in her videos to those made prior, for free.

She's also a thief and stole artwork from other people without their permission- http://cowkitty.net/post/78808973663/you-stole-my-artwork-an-open-letter-to-anita

As well as reusing lets play footage from other youtubers without their permission - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvwiYmVhW94

She's been found to be extremely dishonest, disables comments on her videos to stop legitimate discussion of her work, she also disables voting and the few times it has been temporarily allowed the scores have been overwhelmingly negative.

All her work to date has been thoroughly debunked by literally hundreds of youtubers.

She asserts tropes as contributing to real world issues for women but has not cited any published, peer reviewed, scientific papers which link the effects of gaming (or any media, actually) to changes in real world.

Her dissertation for her degree was pulled offline when critics found many holes in her work.

Her videos are largely cherry picked material and promote a sexist look at video games, whenever she shows game that have violence or sexism against women she fails to acknowledge times when this happens to male characters. She continually references abuse against women and not abuse against people, in her world view men aren't seen as people only women are, this is a fairly normal tactic by modern feminists.

She's also extremely hypocritical, she finds work of media about her, such as the beat up Anita game as unacceptable, yet has no problem engaging in fantasy media where she endorses the death of Randy Pitchford - http://femfreq.tumblr.com/post/58161053721/spider-man-recruits-the-help-of-anita-sarkeesian-to

The extent of her death threats are nothing more than twitter trolling, we've seen many feminists before her play the same card and blow out of proportion this kind of behaviour, of the long line of feminists who play this card, people like Rebecca Watson for example, none of them actually have suffered any of the content of the threats, if they thought for a second that these kind of despicable threats were real and posed real danger, they'd stop making content and probably be given new identities by law enforcement. We all know they don't take this seriously and they're using this as an "example" to prove their points, which is another disgusting lie because most gamers aren't like that of the millions of gamers only a handful of bad apples elevate to threat level tweets, arguably most do it for trolling/effect.

Anita is a dishonest menace to gaming and people need to read any news surrounding her with a grain of salt and a huge serving of perspective. If media outlets made all death threats over twitter news worthy we'd all drown in "news" but because it's a feminist suddenly we all care?
 
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PrincessFrosty

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Its funny how people on this forum and on YT have very strong opinions on games, game studios, game design, and not least very specific preferences for what games should be like, and people are usually not shy about telling that to the world.

Yet when she expresses that on YT, in videos which clarify definitions, uses lots of examples, and moderate language compared to all of the crazy ranting out there, she is then labeled "evil", "vapid", "mentally ill", "imbecile", "brainwashing" etc. There is definitely a different reaction to her than there is to the average game commentator. Several members of this forum, who are usually quite calm, are bringing out rants with for them completely uncharacteristic insults.

What she's expressing is not opinion but she's making factual statements that this media harms women through negative tropes. This hasn't been demonstrated by her, nor has it anywhere else in the scientific literature, at best she's merely an anti-intellectual at worst she's a dishonest and manipulative fraud.

People don't like either of those things, especially in the context of an attack on something you love.
 

DigDog

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woman tries to force herself into a society she doesn't belong in, meets first troll ever, gets massively trolled, cries all the way to the police station.

not interesting in the least.



you guys know lauren from tastyPC?
WARNING: MAY CAUSE BONER

now, she's hot, but she actually understands the stuff she talks about.
obviously her point of view is a feminine one (she got Corsair to make her a pink case), but she's a proper hardware enthusiast.

most other women who write about Internet life dont work like that; what they do is,
"there aren't any women on the web; i'm a woman. i deserve to be on the web"

essentially their claim to a right to have an opinion is, that they are a woman.

troll bait? you betcha.
and when they get trolled, they can't take it.
that, is why there aren't many women on the web... for good reasons./
(damn; you can't /sp images. oh well)
 

Nebor

Lifer
Jun 24, 2003
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woman tries to force herself into a society she doesn't belong in, meets first troll ever, gets massively trolled, cries all the way to the police station.

not interesting in the least.



you guys know lauren from tastyPC?
WARNING: MAY CAUSE BONER

now, she's hot, but she actually understands the stuff she talks about.
obviously her point of view is a feminine one (she got Corsair to make her a pink case), but she's a proper hardware enthusiast.

most other women who write about Internet life dont work like that; what they do is,
"there aren't any women on the web; i'm a woman. i deserve to be on the web"

essentially their claim to a right to have an opinion is, that they are a woman.

troll bait? you betcha.
and when they get trolled, they can't take it.
that, is why there aren't many women on the web... for good reasons./
(damn; you can't /sp images. oh well)

The hotter a woman is, the less likely she is to associate with feminism & social justice nonsense.

To quote Bill Clinton: “The feminist movement was created to allow ugly women access to the mainstream of society.”
 

imaheadcase

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May 9, 2005
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Riiiight, because women don't play games at all.

Did i say that? I said if you are a woman playing a game..looking for just women's issues, you are not a gamer. You don't hear guys playing games and going "that muscle bound guy is so unrealistic i can't believe they put that in the game!" Or "I shot that guy 400 times in the face and he is not dead, gun violence is wrong!".

Point is, no one plays games looking for issues with what is in the game.
 

thedosbox

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Oct 16, 2009
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Some fantastic examples of nerd virgins in this thread. :awe:

Did i say that? I said if you are a woman playing a game..looking for just women's issues, you are not a gamer. You don't hear guys playing games and going "that muscle bound guy is so unrealistic i can't believe they put that in the game!" Or "I shot that guy 400 times in the face and he is not dead, gun violence is wrong!".

Point is, no one plays games looking for issues with what is in the game.

LOL - so I guess the Bioshock 2 developers who agree with Sarkeesian's points aren't gamers then?

https://twitter.com/nullspeak/status/504045057507217408
 

norseamd

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This is hypocrisy.

This woman has already been shown as a liar and politician.

This seems like a very suspicious political post by the OP.
 

Subyman

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Mar 18, 2005
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Promiscuous? Really? Who gives a dump about that? Lol, sounds like something a preacher would say about someone. It is hilarious how emotional people are getting over this. Don't worry, there will be plenty of violence and manliness in gaming for years to come
 

Fox5

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Jan 31, 2005
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Promiscuous? Really? Who gives a dump about that? Lol, sounds like something a preacher would say about someone. It is hilarious how emotional people are getting over this. Don't worry, there will be plenty of violence and manliness in gaming for years to come

Not to mention that his article on Feminist Bullies is about a completely different woman than the one mentioned above. I'm not sure 2 semi-high profile feminists ranting about video games is a large enough number that they need to be lumped together into one persona. If gamers didn't get so outraged by the accusations that games are sexist, these stories would quietly fade away. It's the outrage over the feminist outrage that is making people stand up and take notice, and it's funny that the opponents of these feminists don't realize they're only helping them.
 

thedosbox

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They're just gullible and fall for arguments that aren't backed by evidence.

Just a weak man caving at the first hint of pressure. It'll never be enough for the feminists. They'll continue to bully and push until they ruin video games.

Well, you can add the Saints Row Developers to the list you won't want to support then:

https://twitter.com/SteveJaros/status/504227522423185409

Here is another article about all this crap:
Lying, Greedy, Promiscuous Feminist Bullies are Tearing the Video Game Industry Apart

The people being targeted with death threats and rape are the bullies? Huh.
 

Blue_Max

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Not to mention that his article on Feminist Bullies is about a completely different woman than the one mentioned above. I'm not sure 2 semi-high profile feminists ranting about video games is a large enough number that they need to be lumped together into one persona. If gamers didn't get so outraged by the accusations that games are sexist, these stories would quietly fade away. It's the outrage over the feminist outrage that is making people stand up and take notice, and it's funny that the opponents of these feminists don't realize they're only helping them.

It's perfectly natural to get angry when some jerk says a bunch of insulting lies... even I have a soft spot for bullshit, especially BS that tries to tell people I'm "bad".

...unfortunately, that's part of her plan. When people show their anger at the lies and accusations, she then says to her (mostly female) audience, "See? I told you about bad games for bad people - just look at them! They said mean words and made me scaaaaaared!! Go beat them up for me while I cry!"
 
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