Tropic Thunder should not be seen....

Wheezer

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- I am so proud of everyone who turned out to Monday's premiere of the film "Tropic Thunder" to protest its unfortunate and humiliating portrayal of people with intellectual disabilities.

Prior to the premiere, I joined a large coalition of individuals and organizations to engage in discussions with DreamWorks Studios CEO Stacey Snider and others from the studio to express our concern over the film's "Simple Jack" subplot and the slogans, "Once upon a time there was a retard," and "Never go full retard."

Members of the Coalition of National Disability Organizations -- disabled advocates and family members of people with intellectual disabilities -- have seen the movie and reported shock and disgust. Their reactions have resonated with many of us who take their cause and their voice with the utmost seriousness.

While I am disappointed that we were not consulted in the same manner as other minority groups depicted in the film and that there are 17 mentions of the "R-word" with one mention of the "N-word," I am grateful to Ms. Snider for listening to the coalition and for taking steps to eliminate some of the film's most offensive marketing elements.

I am also appreciative of her commitment to working in the future for an end to denigrating speech and hurtful portrayals of people with intellectual disabilities in film and in society. DreamWorks and its leaders have a powerful reputation for advancing socially and politically important issues.

In particular, Steven Spielberg has been a generous supporter of the work of Special Olympics, for which I am deeply grateful. I look forward to counting the hopes and dreams of 200 million people with intellectual disabilities among the causes of this formidable group of creative and artistic leaders.

Now, however, is the time to raise our voices against "Tropic Thunder" and the harm it is sure to visit on people with intellectual disabilities.

Together with the members of the international coalition, I am asking Steven Spielberg, Stacey Snider, Ben Stiller and the entire "Tropic Thunder" team to stop showing the film, and asking movie theaters and moviegoers to shut this movie out. "Tropic Thunder" is a colossal blunder. Don't show or see "Tropic Thunder."

The degrading use of the word "retard" together with the broader humiliation of people with intellectual disabilities in the film goes way too far. When the R-word is casually bandied about and when bumbling, clueless caricatures designed to mimic the behavior of people with intellectual disabilities are on screen, they have an unmistakable outcome: They mock, directly or indirectly, people with intellectual disabilities. They perpetuate the worst stereotypes. They further exclusion and isolation. They are simply mean.

Mockery in any form, or for any purpose or directed at anyone, especially those least able to defend themselves, is neither funny nor acceptable. We must work together to bring it to an end. As chairman of the Special Olympics, I am inspired to be as vocal as possible about this important matter to effect positive change and to generate support for those who deserve our respect.

Name-calling is a subtle but malicious practice that only serves to perpetuate stigma, fear, intolerance and more. iReport.com: Share your thoughts on 'Tropic Thunder'

Ridicule is a subtle but malicious practice that only serves to exclude and marginalize people with intellectual disabilities. Stop "Tropic Thunder."

People with intellectual disabilities can be great athletes, productive employees, positive friends, courageous role models. Let's open our schools, doctors offices, businesses, communities, and most importantly, our hearts to the giftedness of every human being. No more exceptions. No more exclusion.

Some may think we ought to lighten up and not get so worked up because this is, after all, just a film. But films become part of pop culture and character lines are repeated in other settings time and time again. It's clear to me that lines from this particular film will provide hurtful ammunition outside the movie theatre. While I realize that the film's creators call this a parody and they never intended to hurt anyone, it doesn't mean those words won't.

How can you help? Ban the R-word. Ban the movie. Take a stand.
 

Goosemaster

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he "N-word,"

neener?


edit:

seriously though, society naturally expires old vernacular once the point of reference for humiliation gains a voice, be it though revolts, uprisings, the live coverage of carpet bombing, or a long-running series such as Life Goes On.

At least in my circles, retard, tard, or any such derivation was meant as a very specific insult focusing ones laziness with regard to day to day thinking. It was never so much a reference to the disabled but a criticism of the persons total lack of effort in even the remedial or basic tasks. It was a criticism based on the expected norm, not on the actual disabled. That said, it's expiration may be due and it may fade into the realm of the inappropriate.

It is very hard these days to not treat the mentally retarded with extra care as it is expected of every individual in this society, and I think that goes a long way towards making amends for any misunderstandings or intended transgressions.

Until then, my stance is still that the writer is fvkign retarded.


edit2: Also, I hope the film isn't retarded since it looked like it had potential.
 

ohtwell

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
he "N-word,"

neener?
"neener, neener" is more politically correct!


: ) Amanda


PS: I agree that mocking the mentally challenged shouldn't be glorified, but I wouldn't boycott the movie! I hate that "retard" is used as an insult, which probably stems from the fact that my brother was always referred to as retarded because he was born with cerebal palsy.
 

Bibble

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I seriously doubt there is any malicious intent behind the use of the word 'retard' in this film. Therefore, I suggest the writer of this article relax a little.

George Carlin has a bit about how words are harmless in and of themselves and that it is the asshole using them whom you ought to be concerned about. If the makers of this film have nothing against mentally challenged people then I don't think there is much to worry about.
 

preslove

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I really don't see the point of "retard" being a bad word when used to describe a non-mentally handicapped person.
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: Bibble
I seriously doubt there is any malicious intent behind the use of the word 'retard' in this film. Therefore, I suggest the writer of this article relax a little.

George Carlin has a bit about how words are harmless in and of themselves and that it is the asshole using them whom you ought to be concerned about. If the makers of this film have nothing against mentally challenged people then I don't think there is much to worry about.

Yep, the writer of this article clearly didn't get the joke that Stiller, Downey Jr, etc weren't making fun of the handicapped but of pretentious self-important actors.
 

herkulease

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What the movie makes fun of the mentally disabled? I thought from the trailers its Jack Black, Stiller and Downey characters are idiotic actors who couldn't tell between what's real and fake. Kinda in the like of Zoolander. Where the models are complete idiots.
 

Aikouka

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Nov 27, 2001
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They used the word "retard" because saying "mentally challenged individual" or "mentally handicapped person" just gets really redundant and sounds incredibly too PC to constantly say it. I mean, how could you say, "You never go full mentally handicapped person." Note that the line there was actually part of a scene between Kirk Lazarus (RDJ's character) and Stiller's character talking about why his movie flopped as he was "too into character." It isn't necessarily making fun of retarded people.

The "Simple Jack" portion of the movie is only maybe 10-15 minutes of the movie (more of it being later on in the movie). I saw it myself and my little brother is mentally retarded... yet I'm not offended by any means. I don't see the movie as a mockery of him, although sometimes he does act that way :laugh:.
 
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Rule of life: People of like interest tend to band together in an effort to

1. Feign communal offence in the hopes that they will be able to excercise control over a populace

OR

2. Deliberately attempt to offend the folks mentioned in #1

Thankfully, both forces tend to cancel each other out. May this balance of natural forces never tip one way or the other.
 

zach0624

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That whole thing made me think of zoolander:

"The Derek Zoolander School for Kids That Can't Read Good"
 

oddyager

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Meh. I'll see it either way. Looks like there are enough funnies to make it worth the ticket price.
 

Bateluer

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Morons, they should protest something worth protesting. I'll be seeing Tropic Thunder.
 

Beev

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Saw it last night, the entire movie is gold, retard scene included.
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: alkemyst
it's a movie...only a retard would have a problem with that.

lol i agree with alke
So both you and the Doucheba..err..Alke have a problem with this movie?

no i have no issue with it, i posted in a different thread that the only reason i plan on seeing it now is because retards are being retarded about it
 

foghorn67

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: Beev
Saw it last night, the entire movie is gold, retard scene included.

Good to hear.

Saw it today. The movie rocks. It totally went a different direction than I thought it would. However, I didn't really know what direction I picked out.
It was just amazing on how many things they made fun of. It wasn't the current trends, it was age old stereotypes. Good stuff.
And to tell you the truth, I kind of was getting a little bit sick of Stiller and Black's shtick.
And again, I am not sure how they made themselves totally redeemable.
Either Stiller and Black tapped into an ability that wasn't on screen before, or they perfected what they always had.
 

mrSHEiK124

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GREAT MOVIE.

Plus, I had forgotten about the news breaking that Tom Cruise was in the movie, and never saw the picture online. I only realized near the end of the movie, and then it was just lollerskates all the way out of the movie theater.
 
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