trouble with 8 year old

[Abix]

Originally posted by: OulOat
Stop being a Pussy... Beat your kids

Agreed!

Dont forget this:
"The one-two shut-the-hell-up. This is priceless when you're shopping and your kid won't shut the hell up: "I'm hungry, I want toys, I need my Insulin..." etc. First smack your kid (the 5 across the eyes technique works). Wait a few seconds for your kid to start crying, then smack your kid again to let him know that you mean business. This usually shuts them up because they see that the amount of crying is proportional to the amount of beatings."

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: troytime
what do kids learn from physical punishment other than "dad doesn't like me doing that"

Talk to him instead and explain to him why its wrong. It won't implant negative memories in your childs brain. It will help him understand his wrong doing, and it will make the parent/child relationship much better.

WHere did he learn it? I hope not from you.

That's impossible for a lot of idiot parents that have no rationality in them. They can't even think of a good reason why it's wrong themselves.
Works both ways though. Many children have no rationality in them either, so no matter how much logic you use to try to convince them, they won't be convinced.
It all depends on how a person preceives information and makes decisions. Spanking may work on the non rationals, while it probably won't do much for the rationals.

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0
That's impossible for a lot of idiot parents that have no rationality in them. They can't even think of a good reason why it's wrong themselves.
Works both ways though. Many children have no rationality in them either, so no matter how much logic you use to try to convince them, they won't be convinced.
It all depends on how a person preceives information and makes decisions. Spanking may work on the non rationals, while it probably won't do much for the rationals.

I am of the belief that anyone short of a mental disorder can be taught without hitting them. Of course, this requires a good teacher (in this case, the parent) with the patience and understanding to find the correct method of teaching.

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: virtualgames0
That's impossible for a lot of idiot parents that have no rationality in them. They can't even think of a good reason why it's wrong themselves.
Works both ways though. Many children have no rationality in them either, so no matter how much logic you use to try to convince them, they won't be convinced.
It all depends on how a person preceives information and makes decisions. Spanking may work on the non rationals, while it probably won't do much for the rationals.

I am of the belief that anyone short of a mental disorder can be taught without hitting them. Of course, this requires a good teacher (in this case, the parent) with the patience and understanding to find the correct method of teaching.

I believe that too. But unfortunately, not all parents have interest in psychology and trying to understand others, and understand how they preceive information.
http://www.personalitytype.com
Here's a good site that teaches you what parenting methods works for different personality types.

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0
I believe that too. But unfortunately, not all parents have interest in psychology and trying to understand others, and understand how they preceive information.
http://www.personalitytype.com
Here's a good site that teaches you what parenting methods works for different personality types.

Yep... It's too bad that too many parents don't want to parent any more. (i.e. Divorce, day care, etc.)

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: Wingznut
"thousands of generations of children" were raised to be racist. Does that make it the best option???

I'm not sure that anyone in this "hippy lovedfest" is saying that those parents failed. I'm just wondering why hit your kid if you don't have to?

Well, now that the drugs I'm on have worn off, maybe I can state my point a little better (By the way, never mix oxycodone and crabmeat together).

Spanking your kids teaches them negative reinforcement. It teaches them that are unpleasant consequences to their bad actions. I do not agree with beating your kids, actually injuring them. That's a line that shouldn't be crossed.

"Time out" doesn't work for everyone. I remember people getting paddled in my school. Did it stop their bad behavior? Not always. Did it work for some kids that "time out" did not work for? Yes.

Talking things out doesn't always work, because most children aren't very logical. It depends on the kid. Some kids can tell that what they did was wrong. Other kids want to set fire to everything.

My point is that you can't just say that spanking is always wrong anymore than you can say that talking things out is always wrong.

When I was little, the two were part-and-parcel.

 

[shikirocks]

Some disciple is always good. Stick with it, he will gain more respect for you as he ages. Remember, it's good be friends with your kids, but not always, someitimes you have to be harsh for them, no matter how they feel at the time.

 

[NesuD]

Originally posted by: blodhi74
today my 8 year old got his ass beat up (spanked hard ) by me for calling his mom a bitch. After crying for an hour he appologized to her and me..... But I am still pissed. I took his acess to PS2 and TV for 2 weeks.... Talked to mom who as a kid I used to get my behind whooped for misbehaving told me to give him a break. Should I give in or stick with the punisment ????

You did the right thing. Don't give in on the rest of his punishment either. Once you set the penalty you have to stick to it. Ignore the rest of those bleeding hearts crying because you spanked the boy. There is nothing wrong with spanking in the appropriate situation. Spanking should be reserved for only the very worst transgressions. Calling his mother a bitch in my mind certainly qualifies as one of those. The biggest problem with kids behaviour these days seems to me to be a total lack of respect for their parents. I personally think that is a result of the parents failing to assert their authority with a spanking in certain situations. I have probably only had to spank my boys combined maybe a half dozen times in their lives but everytime in was for a very serious transgression. Taking away the Xbox for a week or two is all well and good but not particularly memorable. On the other hand a good spanking that puts the fear of you into them is something they won't soon forget. They may not completely understand it but they won't forget it and will definately remember their fear of you the next time they contemplate something they know is wrong. Just be sure they know you love them and they will be just fine. The way I look at it if it keeps them safe as in prevents them from doing dangerous things and teaches them to be properly respectful then I can live with the fact that they fear me to some degree.

 

[ComatoseDelirium]

Originally posted by: blodhi74
today my 8 year old got his ass beat up (spanked hard ) by me for calling his mom a bitch. After crying for an hour he appologized to her and me..... But I am still pissed. I took his acess to PS2 and TV for 2 weeks.... Talked to mom who as a kid I used to get my behind whooped for misbehaving told me to give him a break. Should I give in or stick with the punisment ????

your a moron, go find a hole and die. his mom probably is a bitch and your probably a bastard.