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OutHouse

Lifer
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Im glad to hear there are other parents who acutally care and let their kids know that certain behavior is just not acceptable nor tolerated. If my kid ever and i mean ever called my wife/ his mom a bitch he would be in a world of trouble.

My thoughts are this. It was great that he took the initiative to appoligize on his on, wait a week, evaluate him, watch him and his behavior. if you see that he is truly sorry for calling his mother such a vial name, sit him down and talk to him man to man. Make sure he realizes that what he said was very hurtful and that he understands that sometimes the words he chooses to use cut deaper than anything else, then give him his PS2 back.
 

BigJ

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: NOLOVE
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: NOLOVE
What separates spanking from beating? Open vs. closed fist?

This is your child. You're beating him because he learned how to use the word 'bitch'. I'm sure the little 8 year old went online and looked up the definition and context so that he could use it when he needed to. He probably heard it from you... or learned it through the net of your great parenting skills.

Beating a child would include any and all objects, a closed fist, and actually hurting the child.

So the kid is only bawling for hours because his butt was showing in front of his dad, right? Please.

Younger children cry. It happens. Especially after being spanked. And especially if they know they did something wrong. I guess you never cried as an 8 year old eh?

Nowhere did I ever state that beating a child was ok.

I don't know if the OP beat or spanked his child, but I'd guess his child would've probably been crying for a lot longer than an hour if he got beat.
 

Lorn

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: NOLOVE
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: NOLOVE
What separates spanking from beating? Open vs. closed fist?

This is your child. You're beating him because he learned how to use the word 'bitch'. I'm sure the little 8 year old went online and looked up the definition and context so that he could use it when he needed to. He probably heard it from you... or learned it through the net of your great parenting skills.

Beating a child would include any and all objects, a closed fist, and actually hurting the child.

So the kid is only bawling for hours because his butt was showing in front of his dad, right? Please.

Younger children cry. It happens. Especially after being spanked. And especially if they know they did something wrong. I guess you never cried as an 8 year old eh?

Nowhere did I ever state that beating a child was ok.

I don't know if the OP beat or spanked his child, but I'd guess his child would've probably been crying for a lot longer than an hour if he got beat.

The point is... SPANKING "ACTUALLY HURTS THE CHILD". It gets hurt being slapped in the palm of your hand, you don't think it might hurt a kid's bare ass?
 

blodhi74

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I'm not a heartless prick that would beat a child ..... my Dad spanked me once in his life time but I will not tolarate this kind of behaviour..... he is a very nice kid and he is smart enough to realize it was a bad move on his part .... I had a thorugh talk with him after the incedent but was shocked he called his mom a bitch
 

z0mb13

Lifer
May 19, 2002
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Originally posted by: NOLOVE
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: NOLOVE
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: NOLOVE
What separates spanking from beating? Open vs. closed fist?

This is your child. You're beating him because he learned how to use the word 'bitch'. I'm sure the little 8 year old went online and looked up the definition and context so that he could use it when he needed to. He probably heard it from you... or learned it through the net of your great parenting skills.

Beating a child would include any and all objects, a closed fist, and actually hurting the child.

So the kid is only bawling for hours because his butt was showing in front of his dad, right? Please.

Younger children cry. It happens. Especially after being spanked. And especially if they know they did something wrong. I guess you never cried as an 8 year old eh?

Nowhere did I ever state that beating a child was ok.

I don't know if the OP beat or spanked his child, but I'd guess his child would've probably been crying for a lot longer than an hour if he got beat.

The point is... SPANKING "ACTUALLY HURTS THE CHILD". It gets hurt being slapped in the palm of your hand, you don't think it might hurt a kid's bare ass?

yeah keep talking to ur kid and think they would pay an ounce of attention
 

Lorn

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You ARE a heartless prick that DID beat a child. If you slap your wife she's going to let it go because "it was just a spanking" right? Or is it the humility of a nude child over your lap that satisfies you? You're stuck either way... you physically harmed him and humiliated him.
 

BigJ

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: NOLOVE
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: NOLOVE
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: NOLOVE
What separates spanking from beating? Open vs. closed fist?

This is your child. You're beating him because he learned how to use the word 'bitch'. I'm sure the little 8 year old went online and looked up the definition and context so that he could use it when he needed to. He probably heard it from you... or learned it through the net of your great parenting skills.

Beating a child would include any and all objects, a closed fist, and actually hurting the child.

So the kid is only bawling for hours because his butt was showing in front of his dad, right? Please.

Younger children cry. It happens. Especially after being spanked. And especially if they know they did something wrong. I guess you never cried as an 8 year old eh?

Nowhere did I ever state that beating a child was ok.

I don't know if the OP beat or spanked his child, but I'd guess his child would've probably been crying for a lot longer than an hour if he got beat.

The point is... SPANKING "ACTUALLY HURTS THE CHILD". It gets hurt being slapped in the palm of your hand, you don't think it might hurt a kid's bare ass?

Boy you are a pain in the ass arguing over semantics. I'd figure by the context clues, you could've identified how I'm referring to "hurting."

Fine, I should've clarified hurting. By hurting, I mean doing substantial physical harm. Black and blues, broken bones, dislocations. That's my definition of being hurt. Not getting whacked on the ass a few times.

A spanking my cause pain, but that pain should go away relatively quickly.
 

AdamK47

Lifer
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You can lower the amount of time he has to wait by having him work around the house.
 

Wingznut

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Where do you suppose he learned to call his mom such a thing?

(Btw, are you the bio-dad?... Married to his mom?)
 

BigJ

Lifer
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Originally posted by: NOLOVE
You ARE a heartless prick that DID beat a child. If you slap your wife she's going to let it go because "it was just a spanking" right? Or is it the humility of a nude child over your lap that satisfies you? You're stuck either way... you physically harmed him and humiliated him.

Oh please. Cry me a fcvking river. Plenty of children in America were spanked as a child and grew up perfectly fine. He did not beat the child, he was spanked.

What purpose would slapping your wife do other then to hurt her? He did not spank his kid simply to hurt him, it was a form of discipline. Spousal abuse is completely and entirely different.
 

BigJ

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Wingznut
Where do you suppose he learned to call his mom such a thing?

(Btw, are you the bio-dad?... Married to his mom?)

You'd be suprised at the language kids these days use in school.
 

z0mb13

Lifer
May 19, 2002
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Originally posted by: NOLOVE
You ARE a heartless prick that DID beat a child. If you slap your wife she's going to let it go because "it was just a spanking" right? Or is it the humility of a nude child over your lap that satisfies you? You're stuck either way... you physically harmed him and humiliated him.

wow I hope you have a kid at least.

I dont, but I also dont make this kind of statement
 

Wag

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Originally posted by: blodhi74
today my 8 year old got his ass beat up (spanked hard )
I used to work with DSS. You should really think hard about what you're doing. I have to wonder why you're posting it here? You obviously need more help, considering you're posting this in a public forum.

I suggest you try a local parenting or counseling center. There are plenty of them to go around, and they'll work on a sliding scale if you can't afford it.

 

Lorn

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: NOLOVE
You ARE a heartless prick that DID beat a child. If you slap your wife she's going to let it go because "it was just a spanking" right? Or is it the humility of a nude child over your lap that satisfies you? You're stuck either way... you physically harmed him and humiliated him.

Oh please. Cry me a fcvking river. Plenty of children in America were spanked as a child and grew up perfectly fine.

What purpose would slapping your wife do other then to hurt her? He did not spank his kid simply to hurt him, it was a form of discipline. Spousal abuse is completely and entirely different.

What are we talking about here... he called his mom a bitch. You'd think you catch on that perhaps the wife did something of similar nature i.e. calling your mom a bitch. Discipline, right?
 

OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: NOLOVE
You ARE a heartless prick that DID beat a child. If you slap your wife she's going to let it go because "it was just a spanking" right? Or is it the humility of a nude child over your lap that satisfies you? You're stuck either way... you physically harmed him and humiliated him.

umm yea, that is the whole point behind a spanking.
 

Kipper

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I really think physical force should only be reserved for exceptional circumstances. There are far more effective ways to discipline a child than by smacking them around. I was as a child and I have to say I don't appreciate it to this day. I think that the parent who resorts to force because they are a.) unaware of these alternative methods b.) doesn't want to bother with alternative methods or c.) uses force because it's all the know has to take responsibility here and be an adult.

That said, cursing would not be one of those "exceptional circumstances."

Edit: He's eight years old, not six months. He is capable of understanding what he did.
 

Wingznut

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Wingznut
Where do you suppose he learned to call his mom such a thing?

(Btw, are you the bio-dad?... Married to his mom?)

You'd be suprised at the language kids these days use in school.
I have two boys, ages 7 and 10.

If he is learning this from his school, then a change is needed immediately. But I think you should look at this a bit closer... An 8 year-old doesn't learn to be agressive and disrespectful to his mother from school. At that age, they are basically mama's boy and want to do ANYTHING to please her.
 

BigJ

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: NOLOVE
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: NOLOVE
You ARE a heartless prick that DID beat a child. If you slap your wife she's going to let it go because "it was just a spanking" right? Or is it the humility of a nude child over your lap that satisfies you? You're stuck either way... you physically harmed him and humiliated him.

Oh please. Cry me a fcvking river. Plenty of children in America were spanked as a child and grew up perfectly fine.

What purpose would slapping your wife do other then to hurt her? He did not spank his kid simply to hurt him, it was a form of discipline. Spousal abuse is completely and entirely different.

What are we talking about here... he called his mom a bitch. You'd think you catch on that perhaps the wife did something of similar nature i.e. calling your mom a bitch. Discipline, right?

There's a difference between a child that doesn't know any better, and a grown adult that does it to hurt a person. If you can't see that, you really need help.
 

OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: NOLOVE
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: NOLOVE
You ARE a heartless prick that DID beat a child. If you slap your wife she's going to let it go because "it was just a spanking" right? Or is it the humility of a nude child over your lap that satisfies you? You're stuck either way... you physically harmed him and humiliated him.

Oh please. Cry me a fcvking river. Plenty of children in America were spanked as a child and grew up perfectly fine.

What purpose would slapping your wife do other then to hurt her? He did not spank his kid simply to hurt him, it was a form of discipline. Spousal abuse is completely and entirely different.

What are we talking about here... he called his mom a bitch. You'd think you catch on that perhaps the wife did something of similar nature i.e. calling your mom a bitch. Discipline, right?

what in the hell are you blabbering about?
 

Wingznut

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BigJ... Plenty of kids grew up in very crappy circumstancs... That doesn't make it right.

There's no reason to hit a child that young. Period. Frankly, I think that people who spank are too lazy to actually address the issue.


I think it should be required that people here clarify whether or not they are a parent, when posting in such threads.
 

OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: Wag
Originally posted by: blodhi74
today my 8 year old got his ass beat up (spanked hard )
I used to work with DSS. You should really think hard about what you're doing. I have to wonder why you're posting it here? You obviously need more help, considering you're posting this in a public forum.

I suggest you try a local parenting or counseling center. There are plenty of them to go around, and they'll work on a sliding scale if you can't afford it.

In colorado spanking is legal. CPS cant do crap to a parent who uses spanking as a form of punishment.
 

mobobuff

Lifer
Apr 5, 2004
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I got whipped on the ass with a wooden spoon with a very long handle when I did something wrong as a kid. It hurt, sure, but it wasn't anything that wouldn't go away in 10 minutes. The pain of knowing I did something wrong didn't go away until I apologized, and I never did anything like that again. I like to think that I turned out to be a great person, nice and fair to others with no resentment towards my parents at all. If all I'd gotten was "a stern talking to", I don't know if I'd still be this way. I might admire my parents less today because they didn't take that position and let me know directly that I screwed up.

After the age of 5, kids just need to be spanked sometimes. They don't always understand emotional hurt, but they DO understand physical hurt. It gives them something to relate it to.

Oh, and I knew what the term "bitch" ment when I was 3 years old, but I never called my mother one.
 
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