trouble with 8 year old

[Koing]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Psycho17

Originally posted by: OulOat
Stop being a Pussy... Beat your kids

rofl

This usually shuts them up because they see that the amount of crying is proportional to the amount of beatings.

lmfao

The one-handed chauffeur reach around

HA my dad used to do that all the time!!

Very funny stuf

Koing

 

[ragazzo]

Originally posted by: Amol
"white people . . . please beat your children"

"beat that child so he's not a social outcast"

i knew that was coming...be a man!

 

[sygyzy]

Stick with it. Alot of it is luck but do your best to help steer your kid in the right direction. If he grows up and becomes a thug, I don't want him robbing me.

 

[Darilus]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: SearchMaster
I have three boys, 6yo, 4yo, and a baby. The middle one probably gets spanked twice a year or so, and you better damn believe disrespecting his mother like that would add to the totals. The older one rarely gets spanked, probably not at all in the last couple of years, because the threat of a spanking is generally enough to keep him in line. He'll sometimes act up enough to earn a timeout to his room, but soon straightens up and apologizes.

It's easy to say you don't believe in spanking when you don't have kids.

I don't believe in hitting a child to teach him a lesson, and like I said, I have two boys (10 and 7).

You don't think you can teach your kids to respect their parents without resorting to hitting them? Do you honestly think they aren't intelligent enough to learn why it's important other than their dad will bend them over and cause physical pain???

If you don't want to spank your child, fine, no one is trying to make you do it. Referring to it as "hitting" just conjurs up images of child abuse, which no one here has seriously condoned. There's nothing inherently evil about spanking as a form of discipline. After all, think of all the emotional trauma you're causing your child by putting him in time out. :disgust:

 

[vood0g]

nothing wrong with spanking if done properly. i am 24 and i have two daughters ages 4 and 2. i spank them when they do something that i told them not to. when telling them doesnt work, then its time to spank and that has ALWAYS worked. however, after every spanking will come a talk that tells them why they have been hit and ice cream to show that i still love them.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: Wag

Originally posted by: blodhi74
today my 8 year old got his ass beat up (spanked hard )

I used to work with DSS. You should really think hard about what you're doing. I have to wonder why you're posting it here? You obviously need more help, considering you're posting this in a public forum.

I suggest you try a local parenting or counseling center. There are plenty of them to go around, and they'll work on a sliding scale if you can't afford it.

Oh great, government, or in this case ex-government, workers trying to tell us how to raise our kids.

 

[FlyLice]

Asian kids = Spanked
White kids = "Grounded"
Asian kids > White kids

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: FlyLice
Asian kids = Spanked
White kids = "Grounded"
Asian kids > White kids

Yeah, thats why the the statistics concerning suicide during HS and College are much lower for Asians than Whites right? :roll:

And people, I'm not serious. Just making another ignorant comment in response to FlyLice's ignorant comment.

 

[Darilus]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Wag

Originally posted by: blodhi74
today my 8 year old got his ass beat up (spanked hard )

I used to work with DSS. You should really think hard about what you're doing. I have to wonder why you're posting it here? You obviously need more help, considering you're posting this in a public forum.

I suggest you try a local parenting or counseling center. There are plenty of them to go around, and they'll work on a sliding scale if you can't afford it.

Oh great, government, or in this case ex-government, workers trying to tell us how to raise our kids.

Shhh! They're watching us..

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: SearchMaster
I have three boys, 6yo, 4yo, and a baby. The middle one probably gets spanked twice a year or so, and you better damn believe disrespecting his mother like that would add to the totals. The older one rarely gets spanked, probably not at all in the last couple of years, because the threat of a spanking is generally enough to keep him in line. He'll sometimes act up enough to earn a timeout to his room, but soon straightens up and apologizes.

It's easy to say you don't believe in spanking when you don't have kids.

I don't believe in hitting a child to teach him a lesson, and like I said, I have two boys (10 and 7).

You don't think you can teach your kids to respect their parents without resorting to hitting them? Do you honestly think they aren't intelligent enough to learn why it's important other than their dad will bend them over and cause physical pain???

unless your kid is retarded, yes, they know the meaning of "no". and if youre worth your salt as a parent, they will know why. if a 7yo doesnt know why he cant call his mom a bitch, then something is wrong. they know what theyre saying, and do it because they know it will hurt the person. and at that moment, thats what theyre looking for.

i have two children, boy 7 and girl 9. i can count on both hands the number of times ive had to spank each of them since they could understand the concept of no. before each spanking they were told twice why they shouldnt do what they did to deserve it, in terms they could understand. they also know that the only person to blame for any punishment they receive, now or then, was themselves. the last spanking i had to give was 1.5yrs ago to my daughter. she pushed her little brother off the back of the couch. she knew she wasnt supposed to do that, and her brother couldve had his neck broken. the time she pushed him before that, she got the time out and the lecture. so the lecture and time out had no effect, so a spanking it was. edit: and we havent had that problem since.

nowadays, i never have to spank. i only have to say it once on most occasions, and rarely twice. thats the way it should be. theyre free to do as they please within the guidlines of the household. my wife, on the other hand, sometimes has some difficulties with our daughter talking and acting disrepectfully. guess what? her style has been talking and timeouts. so, you do the math.

my children love and respect me. not because i have spanked them, but because they know how the system works, and they know what to expect from me. spanking doesnt work for every child, and should be used as a last resort. but to think that a child that speaks in complete, coherent sentences doesnt know what theyre doing or saying is naive and just asking to be manipulated by the heartstrings.

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: Darilus
If you don't want to spank your child, fine, no one is trying to make you do it. Referring to it as "hitting" just conjurs up images of child abuse, which no one here has seriously condoned. There's nothing inherently evil about spanking as a form of discipline. After all, think of all the emotional trauma you're causing your child by putting him in time out. :disgust:

Spanking is the act of hitting a child on the ass in the name of discipline.

But I still haven't heard a good reason to do it. Kids are NOT stupid. They are NOT animals. They have the ability to reason and learn.

There is absolutely no need to inflict physical pain to teach them how to behave. There's just no point to it.

Originally posted by: vood0g
when telling them doesnt work, then its time to spank and that has ALWAYS worked.

Ask yourself this... Why doesn't telling them work? Are they absolutely stupid? Are you not explaining "why" correctly? Do they not have enough respect for you (motivation) to want to impress their parent?

 

[Kipper]

Originally posted by: 79Blazer
The horses are high in this thread. And all the pimple-farmers giving advice when they don't have any children.... :thumbsdown::disgust:

Just because you have children does not mean you are any more qualified than someone without kids to speak. Neither does it give your opinion any more validity. Are you saying that a child abuser with kids somehow has more authority to speak about children than someone without kids?

I don't think so. When you have something more constructive to add that doesn't involve authority-worship, let me know.

 

[Kipper]

Originally posted by: sygyzy
Stick with it. Alot of it is luck but do your best to help steer your kid in the right direction. If he grows up and becomes a thug, I don't want him robbing me.

The sheer jumping to conclusions is amazing in this thread.

We've gone from "kid calls his mother a name" to "a thug robbing me."

Where do you guys get this comedy routine?

 

[randal]

Originally posted by: NOLOVE
You ARE a heartless prick that DID beat a child. If you slap your wife she's going to let it go because "it was just a spanking" right? Or is it the humility of a nude child over your lap that satisfies you? You're stuck either way... you physically harmed him and humiliated him.

You are perhaps the most ignorant person I have ever seen online. Please do not procreate.

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: MadCowDisease

Originally posted by: 79Blazer
The horses are high in this thread. And all the pimple-farmers giving advice when they don't have any children.... :thumbsdown::disgust:

Just because you have children does not mean you are any more qualified than someone without kids to speak. Neither does it give your opinion any more validity. Are you saying that a child abuser with kids somehow has more authority to speak about children than someone without kids?

I don't think so. When you have something more constructive to add that doesn't involve authority-worship, let me know.

how can you speak to raising children if you havent done it? you never really know what its like until youre there. that doesnt mean those opinions are invalid, just that theyre speaking from no experience, thusly they dont have the info and experience to talk with any certainty.

 

[sygyzy]

Originally posted by: MadCowDisease

Originally posted by: sygyzy
Stick with it. Alot of it is luck but do your best to help steer your kid in the right direction. If he grows up and becomes a thug, I don't want him robbing me.

The sheer jumping to conclusions is amazing in this thread.

We've gone from "kid calls his mother a name" to "a thug robbing me."

Where do you guys get this comedy routine?

Life experience. Where are you getting your deluded reality where kids that get time outs in the corner turn out to be productive members of the community?

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: shimsham
the last spanking i had to give was 1.5yrs ago to my daughter. she pushed her little brother off the back of the couch. she knew she wasnt supposed to do that, and her brother couldve had his neck broken. the time she pushed him before that, she got the time out and the lecture. so the lecture and time out had no effect, so a spanking it was. edit: and we havent had that problem since.

So, what do you think she really learned? That it's a very bad idea to push her brother because he could get seriously hurt... Or maybe just that she should do what dad says, or else he will cause her ass to hurt?

 

[Darilus]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: Darilus
If you don't want to spank your child, fine, no one is trying to make you do it. Referring to it as "hitting" just conjurs up images of child abuse, which no one here has seriously condoned. There's nothing inherently evil about spanking as a form of discipline. After all, think of all the emotional trauma you're causing your child by putting him in time out. :disgust:

Spanking is the act of hitting a child on the ass in the name of discipline.

And spanking your wife is the act of hitting her on the ass in the name of being frisky.

What matters is the intent behind the action. You aren't "hitting" your child because you feel like it, you're using physical disipline to teach them that an action is not acceptable. I don't think it's appropriate for every situation, but any form of discipline can be abused. If you take away your childs priveledges or ground them over every little thing, they are just as likely to resent you, and you won't be "hitting" them.

 

[OffTopic1]

Originally posted by: Amol

Originally posted by: SWScorch
stick with it. Never give in. Kids are like predators; if they see a weakness they will exploit it. Evil little bastards.

 

[Grunt03]

So after you beat your child, do you think he/she really walkked away learning a true lesson?

You and your wife are just as responsible for this happening, where did your child learn such language?
Who did she learn this from?
Maybe in your childs eyes she is a bitch, and you are a bastard. At eight years old, you rchild does not know or understand these words. So why go so overboard, try talking to your child first time it happens.
The second time it happens then it's on.

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: Darilus
You aren't "hitting" your child because you feel like it, you're using physical disipline to teach them that an action is not acceptable.

Why use phyical discipline? Kids aren't stupid. They don't have to associate poor behavior with physical pain inflicted by the ones they love the most.

They have the ability to reason and to learn what is right, and what is wrong... And most importantly, the why behind it all. We aren't talking about wild animals here.

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: shimsham
the last spanking i had to give was 1.5yrs ago to my daughter. she pushed her little brother off the back of the couch. she knew she wasnt supposed to do that, and her brother couldve had his neck broken. the time she pushed him before that, she got the time out and the lecture. so the lecture and time out had no effect, so a spanking it was. edit: and we havent had that problem since.

So, what do you think she really learned? That it's a very bad idea to push her brother because he could get seriously hurt... Or maybe just that she should do what dad says, or else he will cause her ass to hurt?

she learned that when she does something shes not supposed to do, and she knows shes not, there will be consequences (just like in life, which is my job as a parent to teach). she already knew pushing someone around could result in injury, yet she did it anyway, after being previously punished with time out. so as in life, the punishment became harsher with subsequent offenses.

 

[Aharami]

wow. just wow! i'd never even think of calling my mom that....no matter what age!

and if i did that when i was 8, I probably wouldnt be alive to post this today. Then again, I grew up in India.

I say you stick with the punishment. I'd even say you are going soft on him. But thats me....

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: Darilus
You aren't "hitting" your child because you feel like it, you're using physical disipline to teach them that an action is not acceptable.

Why use phyical discipline? Kids aren't stupid. They don't have to associate poor behavior with physical pain inflicted by the ones they love the most.

They have the ability to reason and to learn what is right, and what is wrong... And most importantly, the why behind it all. We aren't talking about wild animals here.

exactly, they know what theyre doing in most cases. so if they continue to do those things, after tallking and tmeouts, then talking and timeouts arent an effective punishment and more drastic measures may be called for.

 

[eakers]

i just love the way you brag about "beating his ass" for calling his mother a bitch.

way to go, hes just a little boy.