Trump’s Second Travel Ban Is Blocked by U.S. Judge

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Lifer
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and that is why the the job of a Judge is to interpret the law. I swear most of you failed 7th grade civics.
Yeah, I don't think you understand the word you just used, cause interpretation is exactly what I'm referring to. Legal scholars make the distinction between reading the "plain text" of a statute vs. interpreting the vague or imprecise words/language in a statute. Knowing that by nature much of the law is imprecise or unclear, interpreting those statutes suddenly becomes much more subjective and open to differing interpretations, hence me poking fun at werepossum for his belief the law just needs to be read man!
 
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Jhhnn

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Because acknowledging reality, and that only a fraction of the ban was allowed to go on, would shatter some feeble little minds around here. And yes, it was only a fraction of the ban allowed. Anyone with a connection to the US is still able to enter.

I think it's important to understand that indefinite bans by whim are the ultimate goal.

The SCOTUS came down firmly on the other side of the argument.

Trump may yet get part of his ban but he can't touch a whole class of legitimate visa seekers that he tried to exclude.
 

Roflmouth

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I think it's important to understand that indefinite bans by whim are the ultimate goal.

Too bad there are no "indefinite bans" in the actual EO, which is why the Supreme Court unanimously ruled against the lower courts' idiotic decisions to suspend the entire thing.

The SCOTUS came down firmly on the other side of the argument.

The other side of the argument that you invented?.
 

Jhhnn

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Too bad there are no "indefinite bans" in the actual EO, which is why the Supreme Court unanimously ruled against the lower courts' idiotic decisions to suspend the entire thing.



The other side of the argument that you invented?.

The SCOTUS ruled that not even a temporary ban can be applied to a broad class of visa seekers-

The ban "may not be enforced against foreign nationals who have a credible claim of a bona fide relationship with a person or entity in the United States."

That undoubtedly applies to any & all future "temp" bans.

Only the delusional can paint that as a Trump victory.
 

Roflmouth

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The SCOTUS ruled that not even a temporary ban can be applied to a broad class of visa seekers-

All nine Justices ruled that the lower courts were wrong to block the entire EO. That is a repudiation of every idiot judge who has so far heard this case. A huge victory for Trump and a defeat for the "Resistance." But keep pretending you don't know this and it isn't killing you inside
 

agent00f

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All nine Justices ruled that the lower courts were wrong to block the entire EO. That is a repudiation of every idiot judge who has so far heard this case. A huge victory for Trump and a defeat for the "Resistance." But keep pretending you don't know this and it isn't killing you inside

When they actually hear the case the justices will have in mind whether to enable people like this. As mentioned at least 4 were specifically chosen to enable the klan. Actually more were initially, but unfortunate for the degens they turned out to have some self-respect.
 

Thump553

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All nine Justices ruled that the lower courts were wrong to block the entire EO. That is a repudiation of every idiot judge who has so far heard this case. A huge victory for Trump and a defeat for the "Resistance." But keep pretending you don't know this and it isn't killing you inside

By making this claim you are proving your total ignorance of American jurisprudence. TRO are, by their very nature, very hard to get-the party seeking the TRO has to prove a number of things, including irreparable harm if the action is not restrained and a strong showing that they will prevail at a full trial on the merits. To draw any conclusion AT THIS POINT that the Supreme Court has approved Trump's EO and/or found it constitutional is wishful partisan thinking at best.
 
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Meanwhile, Trump sells out Iraqi Christians he promised to protect-

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/04/...-region&region=bottom-well&WT.nav=bottom-well
Though most of them came here legally, as refugees or through relatives who were American citizens, their green cards were revoked after criminal convictions on charges including theft, drug possession, rape and murder.

If accurate in all cases I'm having difficulty being sympathetic. Seems consistent with his overall message.
 
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