Lol wut?
Any bets on Trump I won't say pray because I doubt he does, is hoping there is a terrorist event so he can get in front of a camera and say "I told you so"
The ruling itself-
http://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000015a-d421-db68-a97b-d5e934210000
It's a long winded bit of legalese & scathing in its conclusions.
The "constitution overrides" as they say, but Judges ARE the constitution. Because they define its meaning and its application.
How are Judges unbridled? Because both Congress and the President are powerless to change this. By extension, voters have no say.
Let me spell this out. In the fight for political power, today. It takes 60 Senate votes to pass a law. As Obama found out, that's not happening. So you turn to executive orders to excise power. But Judges have the final say, and if you want to dispute them you'll do what? Pass a law they declare unconstitutional? No.... political power in this country then, ultimately, rests with the SCOTUS.
The rest of the nation, its President, its Senators, its Congressmen, its Governors, its voters. Everyone. We all get to sit back and watch the grass grow except once every blue moon to fill a vacancy. That sound about right to you?
Not necessarily. He might have, especially if he went down a different route.New Probably could've gotten away with it, if not for that big mouth of his (though he still might). Wonder boy Stephen Miller and Giuliani didn't do him any favors either.
By this Judge's "logic" the Iraq war was a war against Islam.
All it had to be was a Muslim majority country to invoke the establishment clause.
"It would therefore be no paradigmatic leap to conclude that targeting these countries likewise targets Islam."The targeting of religion here is a fabrication. As I said they get to make up the law as they go along. Then issue their own executive order.
The "constitution overrides" as you say, but Judges get to make it up as they go along. I'm not disputing that's their right. But the application of such unbridled power is truly remarkable.
The "constitution overrides" as they say, but Judges ARE the constitution. Because they define its meaning and its application.
How are Judges unbridled? Because both Congress and the President are powerless to change this. By extension, voters have no say.
Let me spell this out. In the fight for political power, today. It takes 60 Senate votes to pass a law. As Obama found out, that's not happening. So you turn to executive orders to excise power. But Judges have the final say, and if you want to dispute them you'll do what? Pass a law they declare unconstitutional? No.... political power in this country then, ultimately, rests with the SCOTUS.
The rest of the nation, its President, its Senators, its Congressmen, its Governors, its voters. Everyone. We all get to sit back and watch the grass grow except once every blue moon to fill a vacancy. That sound about right to you?
By this Judge's "logic" the Iraq war was a war against Islam.
All it had to be was a Muslim majority country to invoke the establishment clause.
"It would therefore be no paradigmatic leap to conclude that targeting these countries likewise targets Islam."The targeting of religion here is a fabrication. As I said they get to make up the law as they go along. Then issue their own executive order.
The "constitution overrides" as you say, but Judges get to make it up as they go along. I'm not disputing that's their right. But the application of such unbridled power is truly remarkable.
If you think that is his logic you need to read the opinion more closely.
I don't mind this as precedent. Next time any state signs any law that limits gun possession, where those signing had previously generically called for a "Gun ban", lawsuit time. Keep politicians on their toes, hang them with their own rope, make it increasingly difficult to pass any law without a fight.
Seemed the majority of the opinion addressed Trump's statements regarding Muslims providing a clear intent. Bush went out of his way to say his war with Saddam wasn't with Islam and AFAIK never had the bigotry Trump and too many Americans have towards Islam. I'd rather have GWB now. Not the pre Iraq one but the guy that's had a chance to see where we are at the moment.
I was on board with blocking the first EO because of the obvious flaws, but with this one, it looks a lot more like the court is taking a political stance. This is just a temporary hold, we'll see how it goes from here.
I was on board with blocking the first EO because of the obvious flaws, but with this one, it looks a lot more like the court is taking a political stance. This is just a temporary hold, we'll see how it goes from here.
You can't repackage an old unconstitutional order and expect it to magically become constitutional. That's what Trump tried to do here and the courts saw right through it. Both have violated the first amendment.
Shocking, shocking I tell you, obummer lib nominee judge takes political stand in court. Who could have thought??
Good thing Trump is going to be making a lot of appointments, the leftist activist judges are out of control.
WTF Trump was at yet another rally? Doesn't he have work to do?
Shocking, shocking I tell you, obummer lib nominee judge takes political stand in court. Who could have thought??
Good thing Trump is going to be making a lot of appointments, the leftist activist judges are out of control.
Shocking, shocking I tell you, obummer lib nominee judge takes political stand in court. Who could have thought??
Good thing Trump is going to be making a lot of appointments, the leftist activist judges are out of control.
PG has Trumpitus. I just say shit to fit my agenda even though it isn't based in fact. Perfect example of CBD.The first ban was blocked by a GWB appointee which conservatives also decried as an activist judge.
As usual, to conservatives 'activist judge' means 'judge that didn't rule the way I wanted'.
The first ban was blocked by a GWB appointee which conservatives also decried as an activist judge.
As usual, to conservatives 'activist judge' means 'judge that didn't rule the way I wanted'.