Trump’s Son Met With Russian Lawyer After Being Promised Damaging Information on Clinton

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/09/us/politics/trump-russia-kushner-manafort.html

President Trump’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., was promised damaging information about Hillary Clinton before agreeing to meet with a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer during the 2016 campaign, according to three advisers to the White House briefed on the meeting and two others with knowledge of it.

The meeting was also attended by his campaign chairman at the time, Paul J. Manafort, and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner. Mr. Manafort and Mr. Kushner only recently disclosed the meeting, though not its content, in confidential government documents described to The New York Times.

The Times reported the existence of the meeting on Saturday. But in subsequent interviews, the advisers and others revealed the motivation behind it.

The meeting — at Trump Tower on June 9, 2016, two weeks after Donald J. Trump clinched the Republican nomination — points to the central question in federal investigations of the Kremlin’s meddling in the presidential election: whether the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians. The accounts of the meeting represent the first public indication that at least some in the campaign were willing to accept Russian help.

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And while President Trump has been dogged by revelations of undisclosed meetings between his associates and the Russians, the episode at Trump Tower is the first such confirmed private meeting involving members of his inner circle during the campaign — as well as the first one known to have included his eldest son. It came at an inflection point in the campaign, when Donald Trump Jr., who served as an adviser and a surrogate, was ascendant and Mr. Manafort was consolidating power.

It is unclear whether the Russian lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, actually produced the promised compromising information about Mrs. Clinton. But the people interviewed by The Times about the meeting said the expectation was that she would do so.

In a statement on Sunday, Donald Trump Jr. said he had met with the Russian lawyer at the request of an acquaintance. “After pleasantries were exchanged,” he said, “the woman stated that she had information that individuals connected to Russia were funding the Democratic National Committee and supporting Ms. Clinton. Her statements were vague, ambiguous and made no sense. No details or supporting information was provided or even offered. It quickly became clear that she had no meaningful information.”

He said she then turned the conversation to adoption of Russian children and the Magnitsky Act, an American law that blacklists suspected Russian human rights abusers. The law so enraged President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia that he retaliated by halting American adoptions of Russian children.

“It became clear to me that this was the true agenda all along and that the claims of potentially helpful information were a pretext for the meeting,” Mr. Trump said.


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Azuma Hazuki

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So when do we get to break out the firing squad already? When is it gonna be enough?
 
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None of this story from JR passes the smell test. He brought in Kushner AND Manafort for this. They had to believe it was something big.

I mean he just admitted that he met with a Russian offering information damaging to the opposing campaign that he believed would help his father.

It stinks.
 

Jhhnn

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None of this story from JR passes the smell test. He brought in Kushner AND Manafort for this. They had to believe it was something big.

I mean he just admitted that he met with a Russian offering information damaging to the opposing campaign that he believed would help his father.

It stinks.

But there was no collusion, right?
 

UNCjigga

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Silly New York Times and their FAKE NEWS... EVERYONE knows that this meeting was about the plight of Russian orphans awaiting adoption in the US...that was such an important issue during the campaign!
 

J.Wilkins

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Silly New York Times and their FAKE NEWS... EVERYONE knows that this meeting was about the plight of Russian orphans awaiting adoption in the US...that was such an important issue during the campaign!

Yeah and the lawyer surely didn't have any connections to any issues other than that either.

I mean... HOW DARE THEY? Also, this information only came forth because Obama spied on them through the microwave which is ILLEGAL!
 

Jhhnn

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The timeline is suggestive. Trump calls on Russia to find Hillary's missing emails in May. Trump Jr meets with the Russian lawyer June 9. Comey clears Clinton July 5. Wikileaks publishes the Russian hacked DNC emails July 22. In August, Roger Stone intimates that it'll be Podesta's turn in the barrel soon & that happens in October.

It's clear that that all the slime & innuendo over Clinton's emails while SoS was extremely damaging, so the Russians conveniently put more fuel on the fire every time it died down...

Not to mention their internet brigades trolling mightily, particularly in social media.

Edit- Trump called on Russia for hillary's emails July 27. my mistake.
 
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Maxima1

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The timeline is suggestive. Trump calls on Russia to find Hillary's missing emails in May. Trump Jr meets with the Russian lawyer June 9. Comey clears Clinton July 5. Wikileaks publishes the Russian hacked DNC emails July 22. In August, Roger Stone intimates that it'll be Podesta's turn in the barrel soon & that happens in October.

It's clear that that all the slime & innuendo over Clinton's emails while SoS was extremely damaging, so the Russians conveniently put more fuel on the fire every time it died down...

Not to mention their internet brigades trolling mightily, particularly in social media.

Edit- Trump called on Russia for hillary's emails July 27. my mistake.

What's more, there's no reason to lie about what happened at the meeting. Jr's first explanation was merely that it was about adoptions. Others noted that the adoptions ban was tied to sanctions that Putin despised. Now we get this bombshell from Jr. that admits to many things. While many say Donnie is stupid, it's crazy to know that Jr. is even dumber!
 

Grooveriding

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At what point is something going to be done? You have Trump literally discussing forming a cyber security unit with Russia to prevent election hacking?! His son has admitted to attempting to collude with a Russian lawyer that is known to act as a Russian government operative in order to damage Clinton and aid Trump's campaign. So, admission to attempted collusion by the president's son.
 

Fenixgoon

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At what point is something going to be done? You have Trump literally discussing forming a cyber security unit with Russia to prevent election hacking?! His son has admitted to attempting to collude with a Russian lawyer that is known to act as a Russian government operative in order to damage Clinton and aid Trump's campaign. So, admission to attempted collusion by the president's son.

someone else linked to an article in another thread...but basically the crux of the story was that watergate took over a year from the time it occurred to the time nixon resigned.

unfortunately we need to give things time. fortunately, robert mueller is basically the last person you want investigating you if you've done something shady, according to several news articles. i have no doubt he *will* find something
 

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someone else linked to an article in another thread...but basically the crux of the story was that watergate took over a year from the time it occurred to the time nixon resigned.

unfortunately we need to give things time. fortunately, robert mueller is basically the last person you want investigating you if you've done something shady, according to several news articles. i have no doubt he *will* find something

Yup yup. It takes time and given the amount of dirt the press has dug up, one can only imagine the amount Mueller has and will continue to dig up with his subpoena power. Keep in mind he's hired 15 lawyers/former prosecutors so far with apparent plans to hire more.

But I can understand some people's frustration. This tweet by Jr is basically admitting he was attempting to use a foreign contact to throw an election which is illegal. I truly believe their day is coming especially given Muellers reputation.
 

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Yup yup. It takes time and given the amount of dirt the press has dug up, one can only imagine the amount Mueller has and will continue to dig up with his subpoena power. Keep in mind he's hired 15 lawyers/former prosecutors so far with apparent plans to hire more.

But I can understand some people's frustration. This tweet by Jr is basically admitting he was attempting to use a foreign contact to throw an election which is illegal. I truly believe their day is coming especially given Muellers reputation.

Yes, it'll happen shortly after Trump's second term ends.
 

Maxima1

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mlolWSu4fA

Trump was suppose to give an anti-Hillary Clinton speech on June 13th, which was announced on June 9th, but the Pulse shooting happened. Manafort during that time said that the campaign wouldn't need as much money to beat Hillary as many thought (hint hint).

Also, look at this.

 

HomerJS

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Trump will probably pardon his son and fire Mulleur. Republicans won't care.
 

Humpy

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But there was no collusion, right?

"...individuals connected to Russia were funding the Democratic National Committee and supporting Ms. Clinton."

Sounds like collusion to me!
 

Azuma Hazuki

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Why unreal? We've dammit been telling y'all that family is up to no good since well before he was elected. And been getting called paranoid for it. You know, at this point I can only hope the end of the US's political institutions is at least a good show.
 
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