Trump’s Son Met With Russian Lawyer After Being Promised Damaging Information on Clinton

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fskimospy

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Trump said he didn't know of the meeting. Obvious BS.

To be clear, Trump Jr. initially lied about the meeting, saying it never happened. When informed that there was evidence it happened he lied again and said it was about 'adoptions', conveniently leaving out the fact that they also met for him to try and get dirt on Clinton. Then when informed there was evidence he was trying to get dirt on Clinton he said it didn't matter anyway.

He's lying an awful lot about a meeting that he says was totally meaningless. I wonder why?
 

TraumaRN

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I mean as far as I understand this, it's basically Jr digging a huge grave for himself, his dad, Kusher, Manafort, Flynn, Sessions... pretty much the whole lot of them. They've lied repeatedly about Russian contacts, meetings, etc. As has been oft repeated, it's not the crime it's the coverup that gets you.

18 U.S. Code § 3 - Accessory after the fact
Whoever, knowing that an offense against the United States has been committed, receives, relieves, comforts or assists the offender in order to hinder or prevent his apprehension, trial or punishment, is an accessory after the fact.

Somewhere Mueller is shaking his head at how the targets of his investigation manage to keep making self incriminating statements.
 
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chucky2

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OMG, he didn't use a cutout 3rd party to get dirt on the competition during an election! Quick, queue OMG Russians.txt!

LOL
 

trenchfoot

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To be clear, Trump Jr. initially lied about the meeting, saying it never happened. When informed that there was evidence it happened he lied again and said it was about 'adoptions', conveniently leaving out the fact that they also met for him to try and get dirt on Clinton. Then when informed there was evidence he was trying to get dirt on Clinton he said it didn't matter anyway.

He's lying an awful lot about a meeting that he says was totally meaningless. I wonder why?

Looks to me like a typical wartime strategic retreat operation being deployed, where continuous delaying actions of every sort are being mounted at the front lines whilst the main body is also continually regrouping further back from the action and preparing new lines of defense in reaction to unfolding circumstances at the front.

Eventually though, if an effective counterattack can't be mounted, the Trump clan is going to run out of territory to give up and will be forced to talk terms of surrender. Hopefully, the terms will be unconditional and brutally punitive for the clan that would consort with the enemy in order to grasp power and loot the very nation that the Trump clan purports to "lead".
 
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OMG, he didn't use a cutout 3rd party to get dirt on the competition during an election! Quick, queue OMG Russians.txt!

LOL
You realize part of the issue that they are investigating is the extent to which Russia tried to interfere right? This isn't just about collusion. It's about understanding the lengths Russia went to try to meddle.

Whether they got information or not is irrelevant. They certainly met with this woman hoping to get information. Then they lied their ass off about it.
 
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chucky2

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You realize part of the issue that they are investigating is the extent to which Russia tried to interfere right? This isn't just about collusion. It's about understanding the lengths Russia went to try to meddle.

Whether they got information or not is irrelevant. They certainly met with this woman hoping to get information. Then they lied their ass off about it.

I'm sure they're investigating as much as possible to try and hamstring Trump as much as possible, yes.

They met with this woman to get information? OMG! I mean, I can't imagine no one from the Clinton camp (including the 3rd party cutouts behind the scenes to maintain separation and deniability) would ever obtain damaging information on their opposition, amirite? Another much ado about nothing...
 

HomerJS

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You realize part of the issue that they are investigating is the extent to which Russia tried to interfere right? This isn't just about collusion. It's about understanding the lengths Russia went to try to meddle.

Whether they got information or not is irrelevant. They certainly met with this woman hoping to get information. Then they lied their ass off about it.
If you break into a house but can't get the contents of the safe its still B&E
 

jackstar7

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I mean as far as I understand this, it's basically Jr digging a huge grave for himself, his dad, Kusher, Manafort, Flynn, Sessions... pretty much the whole lot of them. They've lied repeatedly about Russian contacts, meetings, etc. As has been oft repeated, it's not the crime it's the coverup that gets you.

Somewhere Mueller is shaking his head at how the targets of his investigation manage to keep making self incriminating statements.
Pence has also stated there was no contact, so he's either lying or ignorant... and it seems doubtful he's that ignorant of the campaign (plenty ignorant about other things).
 

chucky2

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Pence has also stated there was no contact, so he's either lying or ignorant... and it seems doubtful he's that ignorant of the campaign (plenty ignorant about other things).

I wouldn't be so sure, Pence ain't in the Trump family inner circle...
 

HomerJS

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I'm sure they're investigating as much as possible to try and hamstring Trump as much as possible, yes.

They met with this woman to get information? OMG! I mean, I can't imagine no one from the Clinton camp (including the 3rd party cutouts behind the scenes to maintain separation and deniability) would ever obtain damaging information on their opposition, amirite? Another much ado about nothing...
It's so much to do about nothing he had to lie on his disclosure form. Also remember them sneaking in Russians in a back entrance of Trump tower. Again if no big deal why lie and hide?
 

fskimospy

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Looks to me like a typical wartime strategic retreat operation being deployed, where continuous delaying actions of every sort are being mounted at the front lines whilst the main body is also continually regrouping further back from the action and preparing new lines of defense in reaction to unfolding circumstances at the front.

Eventually though, if an effective counterattack can't be mounted, the Trump clan is going to run out of territory to give up and will be forced to talk terms of surrender. Hopefully, the terms will be unconditional and brutally punitive for the clan that would consort with the enemy in order to grasp power and loot the very nation that the Trump clan purports to "lead".

The partisanship has gotten so bad for these idiots that now they are literally arguing 'so what if the president's son, top adviser, campaign manager, and future national security adviser tried to exchange information with someone likely representing a hostile foreign power in order to win an election?'

Lol. The silver lining to this is how entertaining and funny it is to watch stupid people twist themselves into ever tighter knots to justify this shit.
 

fskimospy

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It's so much to do about nothing he had to lie on his disclosure form. Also remember them sneaking in Russians in a back entrance of Trump tower. Again if no big deal why lie and hide?

I also find it funny that Trump Jr's explanation is that he repeatedly lied about something that doesn't matter.

'This isn't a big deal, I'm just a pathological liar' is a novel defense, that's for sure.
 

jackstar7

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I'm sure they're investigating as much as possible to try and hamstring Trump as much as possible, yes.

They met with this woman to get information? OMG! I mean, I can't imagine no one from the Clinton camp (including the 3rd party cutouts behind the scenes to maintain separation and deniability) would ever obtain damaging information on their opposition, amirite? Another much ado about nothing...
So a foreign government has information damaging to a former Secretary of State, but they didn't think to involve anyone who might need to know about something like that?

Either stupid or assholes, or both.
 

chucky2

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It's so much to do about nothing he had to lie on his disclosure form. Also remember them sneaking in Russians in a back entrance of Trump tower. Again if no big deal why lie and hide?

Why lend ammo and support to the OMG Russia! craze?

The bigger question is why didn't the Trump camp have a trusted Republican 3rd party do the meet? Personally I think it's because the Reps really don't want to support Trump any more than not having Billary elected (and a lot of them are in the Billary camp anyways due to richie rich ownership sharing with her). Got to wonder how much behind the scenes Trump can really trust the Rep establishment...I bet it ain't much...
 

chucky2

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So a foreign government has information damaging to a former Secretary of State, but they didn't think to involve anyone who might need to know about something like that?

Either stupid or assholes, or both.

Why would they? That's not their problem, their problem is to win an election, same as Billary. You can't think either of these two parties, two camps, two people (Billary or Trump) GAF about something like that, right? LOL come on now...
 

HomerJS

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Why lend ammo and support to the OMG Russia! craze?

The bigger question is why didn't the Trump camp have a trusted Republican 3rd party do the meet? Personally I think it's because the Reps really don't want to support Trump any more than not having Billary elected (and a lot of them are in the Billary camp anyways due to richie rich ownership sharing with her). Got to wonder how much behind the scenes Trump can really trust the Rep establishment...I bet it ain't much...
Uhh because you are required to by law?? You realize lying on the disclosure forms is a large part of this so called "craze"
 
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TraumaRN

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I'm sure they're investigating as much as possible to try and hamstring Trump as much as possible, yes.

They met with this woman to get information? OMG! I mean, I can't imagine no one from the Clinton camp (including the 3rd party cutouts behind the scenes to maintain separation and deniability) would ever obtain damaging information on their opposition, amirite? Another much ado about nothing...


It's not that campaigns haven't done that in the past with other American citizens. It's that doing so with a hostile foreign nation amounts to treason...and then to lie about it after the fact is also a crime.
 

jackstar7

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Why would they? That's not their problem, their problem is to win an election, same as Billary. You can't think either of these two parties, two camps, two people (Billary or Trump) GAF about something like that, right? LOL come on now...
That's next-level both-sides-ing you're doing there.

Try not to pull something.
 
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chucky2

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Uhh because you are required to by law??

Bah, laws are made for the little people. Billary is accepting multi million (or was it just million) dollar birthday presents from Middle Eastern countries for her Foundation, you're worried about the law? LOL! So if the well connected can frame the laws to their liking, then be world class shady as shit and circumvent/break them, but, do it in a way as to not get caught, that's cool...but if someone actually just goes and meets with someone to get something damaging about their oppo in the largest political race in the world, that's end of world bad? Allllriggghhtyyy then!
 

Azuma Hazuki

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This is not going to stop until we break out the wood chipper and start throwing the corrupt ones into it and recording it live.
 

chucky2

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It's not that campaigns haven't done that in the past with other American citizens. It's that doing so with a hostile foreign nation amounts to treason...and then to lie about it after the fact is also a crime.

OMG Russians!
 
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