Makes perfect sense you get played by "dumb" conservatives every single time. Emin is a nobody outside Aras Agalarov's son, you know putin's oligarch buddy; same as Jr is a nobody outside Trump's son. Jr isn't calling with a nobody about russian intel, he's calling to meet Aras's people. Veselnitskaya is just there because she's a trusted asset to deliver state intel docs, and happened to be traveling from moscow to ny at the intended time of the meeting. You can tell she's state-attached because she's not on Aras's staff, but literally works for russian state-related legal interests. Unlike your mind, her's is not so mush as to try not only duping Trump but also screwing somebody like Agalarov by using his name/staff and relationship, AND Putin by pretending this is a state intel operation. At the meeting, they drop off the docs and talked about quid pro quo russian interests on the Magnitsky Act, presumably not the part dealing with adoptions but the one that froze Russian financial assets.
Let's hope Mueller has competent thinkers working on this and not the likes of you.
But the part of this thread that's even funnier than Jhhnn apologizing for the russians is chucky screwing up the alibi. He's supposed to blame it on clinton/obama, same as the other shill @Starbuck1975, but tried working his own angle on it. Where he rationalizes colluding with russian state intel because trump is the underdog to clinton. That's not a legal defense but a confession, dumbass.
President Trump's official campaign paid Donald Trump Jr.'s lawyer roughly two weeks before it was revealed the president's son had taken part in a meeting with a Russian lawyer, according to new FEC filings.
The FEC filing shows that Donald J. Trump for President, Inc. disbursed $50,000 for "legal consulting" to Alan Futerfas's law firm on June 27.
And amateur hour continues...so when did the president know about this meeting? More lies...
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...rump-jrs-lawyer-almost-two-weeks-prior-to?amp
That was probably the result of the NYT asking questions about things they shouldn't have known about...
Perhaps but it throws into question why the president said he'd only just learned about the meeting. This suggests he knew earlier
Trump lies? Color me shocked & dismayed at your impudence towards our great leader!
It seems like lying is like breathing for everyone around Trump. Those who voted for him must be proud about the soundness of their judgment. The Trump mailing list is probably a scammers wet dream.
Probably why he's already declared for 2020 and his 'campaign' is already collecting money for his re-election.
Hahahahahahhah.I must sincerely apologize for my remarks here. I thought that Trump was fleecing rubes to raise a lot of campaign money that he could use for events to generate profits at his own hotels.
It turns out, he's also using it for his and Don Jr's defense fund.
Trump’s Re-Election Campaign Doubles Its Spending on Legal Fees
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/15/...partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur
Again, I apologize for any harm I may have caused.
HOW TO TALK TO YOUR TEEN ABOUT COLLUDING WITH RUSSIA
TOM RUSSELL
Even the best-behaved teen is likely to encounter a situation where he or she is tempted to collude with Russia. Unfortunately for parents, a teen’s natural tendency to test the limits of independence can often manifest itself in his or her exchanging sensitive information with Russian emissaries for material or other rewards. If not constructively addressed during adolescence, colluding with Russia can have much more serious consequences in adulthood...
...Don’t be shy about asking your teen where she has been, who she has spent time with, or why she has receipts from Cypriot bank wire transfers hidden under a false bottom of her jewelry case. If you discover a folder marked “parental Kompromat” try to stay focused and not act emotional. Think about her point of view and why she would consider it important to have your social security number, email account, Porn search history in a secret folder. Take advantage of these “teachable moments” to have meaningful discussions about colluding with Russia with your teen...
...Remember, any effort you make now to address your teen’s colluding with Russia is like an investment in their future. The last thing any parent wants is for the behavior to carry into adulthood when it can seriously hurt the parent as well as the child!
I can't even begin to fathom how massive the revelations are going to be. Watergate is going to be child's play in comparison
This still bothers me. Flynn never lied to Pence. Pence knew everything, because he was there when the campaign/transition team was informed about Flynn. Pence knew everything. The story about Flynn lying to Pence is a fucking lie. The Obama transition team has full details on who was informed about everything that was known about Flynn and, behind door #1: we have VP Pence, the head of the Trump transition team.
We are way past Watergate imo, just the wave hasn't hit yet.
I wonder what we will call this in the history books? It needs a catchy name.
Calling any future scandal xxx-gate will just make it sound pedestrian once the scope of this betrayal and corruption becomes known.
Nice conspiracy theory, bro. If your political inclinations were different you'd be a Birther/Benghazi Believer.
Your whole schtick falls apart because TrumpCo didn't use any dirt they didn't get from Wikileaks. They could easily have received advance notice in a variety of ways, of course, and likely did, maybe from this meeting. But that's not what you're saying, is it?
Reasonable possibilities are much broader than you suspect, as usual.
You'd make a pretty good conservative.
Quite the contrary. Conservatives believe in amazing conspiracy theories, much as you do.
Intent is all that matters here. Jr intended collusion with Russian espionage, even if it didn't materialize in this meeting. Kushner & Manafort were there for the same reason. All the speculation, innuendo & projection merely obfuscates that simple truth.
None of this is particularly surprising. Trump & Co have been running the business this way for years. Buy it up now and worry about paying later. I'm sure Trump told his kids: "Okay boys, Daddy's running for President, lets make it happen!, We'll worry about any consequences once I win!"...
To share some unspecified ugliness about Clinton that originated with “the Crown prosecutor of Russia” - was a scandal waiting to happen. Only the dimmest of people would fail to appreciate the implications involved in agreeing to co-operate with a hostile foreign government to smear an opponent. That the country in question happened to be Russia only adds to the idiocy of the plan. But that’s just it: Donald Jr. didn’t have a clue that what he was doing might be a bad idea.
Or..the failure is more fundamental than that. He has no moral compass. Why should he? Who in that family does? Trump Sr. lies as easily as speaking. The old saw about, "How do you know he's lying? His lips are moving!" could have been crafted with Trump Sr. in mind. And it's clear that Jr. is a chip off the ol' block. Even as Jr. was attempting to defend his actions, he said things like that it was a minor meeting, they didn't get what they were looking for - and it never seemed to occur to him that they shouldn't have been looking for it in the first place. None of them gets that even entertaining such a scheme is wrong.
The Trump & family presidency is an amateur hour on a massive scale. Donald Jr currently flailing around in search of an alibi that will explain his willingness to engage in an e-mailed exchange with a British music publicist eager to set up a meeting with a “Russian attorney” who would share some dirt on Hillary Clinton, acquired via a Russian pop star and his billionaire father. WTF! It’s government by amateurs, and not smart amateurs at that. Donald Jr. is just another reflection of its ineptitude: keen as a bunny but hopelessly out of his depth.
And amateur hour continues...so when did the president know about this meeting? More lies...
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...rump-jrs-lawyer-almost-two-weeks-prior-to?amp
So the weekend is essentially over and we still have at least one unknown person that was at this meeting. I'll bet a nickel we will see more revelations regarding that in the next 24-48 hours.
One more interesting note is that Senator Mark Warner said he wants to interview all parties involved, even the Russian nationals. Don't think the Russian govt would let that happen but if it did...safe to say that'd be must watch TV
multiple Twitter sources have reported this weekend that the NYT, WP, and other networks are all working on stories with collusion directly tied to Trump. i also can't imagine that anyone would actually believe that Trump wouldn't at least be aware of, if not listening in on, the meeting this thread is based on.
Just in time for me and the lady's trip to SC this week to visit our friends who are ardent Trump supporters! Might be some interesting dinner conversations!