Trump’s Son Met With Russian Lawyer After Being Promised Damaging Information on Clinton

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thilanliyan

Lifer
Jun 21, 2005
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what exactly to you mean by "distract everyone"?

it doesn't matter what everyone thinks, this administration will continue to get nothing done, and no one can change that.
Distract people from crappy policies they may be trying to shove through.
 

agent00f

Lifer
Jun 9, 2016
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It's pretty simple, the actions of Trump and his associates absolutely scream they are desperately trying to hide something.

Trump's National Security Adviser has been busted lying about his contacts with the Russians.
Trump's Attorney General has been busted lying about his contacts with the Russians.
Trump's campaign manager has been busted lying about his contacts with the Russians.
Trump's son has been busted lying about his contacts with the Russians.
Trump fired the director of the FBI because he was investigating Trump associates for lying about their contacts with the Russians.

Any rational, reasonably objective person would conclude it's quite likely that the Trump administration is trying to hide something.

This is where Doc Savage disappears or least ignores you only to ask for the growing pile of damning evidence again the next time, same as every dozen times before this. His sort are truly contenders for the worst.
 

brycejones

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Yes, I think this is NOTHING...talking to a someone on the pretext of their having info that may sully a political rival is NOT a crime in any way, shape or form...and you have given me absolutely NOTHING to indicate otherwise...except perhaps SPECULATION and ANGER.

Someone is triggered. Angry the admin has had to walk back every denial of contact wth Russia they have made perhaps?
 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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Yes, I think this is NOTHING...talking to a someone on the pretext of their having info that may sully a political rival is NOT a crime in any way, shape or form...and you have given me absolutely NOTHING to indicate otherwise...except perhaps SPECULATION and ANGER.

Uhmm, that is absolutely a crime if the other person is a foreign national as that violates campaign finance law.

It is illegal to solicit anything of value from foreign nationals for use in your campaign and dirt of your opponent is certainly something of value. If Trump Jr. acted as he described he committed a crime.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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Man I go eat lunch and this thread just exploded

You can say OMG Russia all you want but my point still stands, there is increasing evidence showing collusion between the Trump camp and the Russian government.

This latest report is damaging enough that you have George W's ethics lawyer saying it may be treasonous.

At minimum it is accessory after the fact.

Either way it's a felony.
That just feeds into his Repubs are behind this too sputum.
 

emperus

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I don't mind Mueller and Congress investigating this matter. But where is your evidence of a crime here? I ask honestly.

Trump Jr. admitted that he tried to meet with a Russian lawyer (foreign agent) to obtain damaging info on a US candidate. There are a lot of legal experts weighing in on both sides of this. But, it is definitely not "nothing".
 
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trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
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Man oh man if this were Obama and his family doing all of these nefarious treasonous things that the Trump Clan has been up to Obama would be in jail by now awaiting sentencing.

It's simply amazing what the Repubs are willing to put up with to keep their hands in the till and on the tiller.

Is this really what our processes of gov't have come down to where a narcissistic deluded snake oil salesman is running the country in accordance with how he's been more than willing toward cutting deals with any and all who would like to exploit his sorry self-indulgent ass? (rhetorical)

What a fine example we're setting for the other democracies of the world. But then ever since Trump won, we're all of a sudden a nation of isolationists that really just don't give a shit about our standing with the other nations of the world.

We're now just the neighborhood bully spreading our hegemony the world over because we haven't the basic skill set to practice world class diplomacy like we used to.

Geeez, at least Bush and Cheney had some kind of a half-assed plan for cornering the world's market on oil.

Trump got nothing but being himself and expecting the rest of the world to understand that the axis the world rotates on is now Trump Tower NY, USA.
 

agent00f

Lifer
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Man oh man if this were Obama and his family doing all of these nefarious treasonous things that the Trump Clan has been up to Obama would be in jail by now awaiting sentencing.

It's simply amazing what the Repubs are willing to put up with to keep their hands in the till and on the tiller.

It's true. Remember when Palin's kid had an illegitimate child out of wedlock, the "family values" conservatives were seen celebrating the affair. Imagine if Obama's (you know, black) kid were in the same situation what these same racists would think.

But don't worry, there are plenty of liberals willing to apologize for their objectively degenerate countrymen.
 

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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Uday Trump is really dumber than a bag of rocks to talk about this.

Seriously.

Although we probably shouldn't poke fun at the afflicted. It's not his fault he was born with a lead spoon in his mouth. Damn silly family tradition if you ask me, and seems irreparable despite expensive schooling.
 

brycejones

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Sunburn74

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Bummer, I would rather this stuff not come out if true and give the asshat a chance to hang himself.
What is IC in that twitter post? Anyway I just find this whole story odd. No one can keep track of how many interactions this trump campaign had with Russian agents. Every time you think its over a new meeting pops up which was conveniently forgotten about by the people involved.

Edit: just got it. Intelligence community?
 
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How many lies has Jr told about this just in the last 2 days?

1). I don't recall any meetings with Russians.
2) I met with her about Russian adoptions (Saturday)
3) here's a detailed account of the meeting in explicit detail but I didn't know before going in who she was or what it was about but I brought in Kushner and Manafort (Sunday)

Now today, if true, there's an email telling him, in advance, who she was and what she wanted to discuss. That it was prt of a Russian government effort to aid his fathers campaign.

But yeah. Nothing suspicious about this at all.
 
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TheVrolok

Lifer
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How many lies has Jr told about this just in the last 2 days?

1). I don't recall any meetings with Russians.
2) I met with her about Russian adoptions (Saturday)
3) here's a detailed account of the meeting in explicit detail but I didn't know before going in who she was or what it was about but I brought in Kushner and Manafort (Sunday)

Now today, if true, there's an email telling him, in advance, who she was and what she wanted to discuss. That it was prt of a Russian government effort to aid his fathers campaign.

But yeah. Nothing suspicious about this at all.
Just got the NYT update. If true, wow. Really, though, a non insignificant portion of the US honestly doesn't care.
 

yllus

Elite Member & Lifer
Aug 20, 2000
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Just got the NYT update. If true, wow. Really, though, a non insignificant portion of the US honestly doesn't care.
Neither did they during the last months of Nixon's presidency.

Vox - A forgotten lesson of Watergate: conservatives may rally around Trump

...

Watergate, of all things, brought conservatives back into the fold. The emerging scandal absorbed the administration not long after Nixon’s second term began. For a generation of mainstream journalists, the scandal would confirm the power of the press to serve as a check on corruption, no matter how powerful the perpetrator. For conservatives, however, the scandal and the press’s role in prosecuting it looked much different. They saw the press as trying to undo the decisive results of the 1972 election. And if the media was so terrified of Nixon, then maybe there was something to the man after all.

Consider how conservative radio host Clarence Manion framed the role of the media in the early days of the Watergate hearings. In an interview with Dan Lyons, an anticommunist Catholic writer, Manion directly attacked the freedom of the press. That noble-sounding phrase, he argued, was something journalists hid behind to appear uniquely vulnerable to government overreach; in fact, the media held the cards.

“The result,” he told his listeners, “is that a gullible public is caught in the talons of a power that ironically disguises itself as freedom.” Lyons echoed the charge, arguing that Watergate had indeed exposed a dangerous concentration of power — but in the press, not the executive branch.

As the rest of the nation followed the unfolding story of corruption and cover-ups, the Watergate-as-liberal-conspiracy narrative quickly took hold in conservative media. After listening to the Lyons interview, Paul Harvey, the radio personality, repeated the attack in his nationally syndicated broadcast. How, he wondered, could the American people accept an all-powerful media capable of turning “a prosecution into a persecution”? And when Sen. Jesse Helms appeared on Manion’s show, he railed against “the incredible New York Times-Washington Post syndicate, which controls to a large degree what the American people will read and learn.”

This attempt to spin Watergate as “persecution” obviously required downplaying the underlying crimes. This, too, was done easily enough. Nixon himself called the Watergate break-in “a crappy little thing” in a private Oval Office conversation in early 1973, and there was some of that in the conservative media as well. Publisher Henry Regnery greeted the accusations by observing: “I can see no grounds for impeachment, or even to get worked up about.”

...​
 

UberNeuman

Lifer
Nov 4, 1999
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dun-dun-DA!!!! The plot thickens...

Many Trump Cult Members are laying in the fetal postion right now muttering over and over "nothingburgernothingburgernothingburgernothingburgernothingburgernothingburger."

\lol.


*helpful represention of TCM's reaction*
 
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Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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So it's starting to look like the next Trump to star in a Home Alone movie will be Ivanka since her brother, husband, and dad might be "going away" for a while.

/jk
 
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