Trump’s Son Met With Russian Lawyer After Being Promised Damaging Information on Clinton

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agent00f

Lifer
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It's a sad bubble in which you dwell.

I'd be wary of heart troubles.

Must be a pretty big bubble with all the conservatives in it. Seems to me they're just toeing the party line even it if means protecting russian interests.

We're sanctioning Russia (before our election), that's not a threat to Russia, that's an actual action. Bummer wanted to F with Russia, and Russia F'd him back. Given that these Pols DGAF about the country, it's themselves first, party second, how did that work out for Bummer and the Dems?

I've said before in previous threads I'd like to see the US take the lead in a secure deployable voting system, and this really doesn't change my opinion of that at all. I think we should push for that, and then push it at the UN. Many of these countries could benefit from something like that.

As for Russia going after info about US Politicans? LOL, so? You don't think we do the same thing? News at 11, NSA and CIA obtain info on Russian Politcians! One prefers single malt over vodka, you'll be shocked to learn which one!

It's pretty easy to see why trumpsters side with the russians over the kenyan muslim.
 

chucky2

Lifer
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It's a sad bubble in which you dwell.

LOL, I see things pretty clearly...although I was very wrong about Billary and the election, I was shocked at that as anyone else.

I'd be wary of heart troubles.

Funny you say that, this house remodel is killing me (it can't be the fast food or the Pepsi though, not that!)...
 

jackstar7

Lifer
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LOL, I see things pretty clearly...although I was very wrong about Billary and the election, I was shocked at that as anyone else.

Funny you say that, this house remodel is killing me (it can't be the fast food or the Pepsi though, not that!)...

Ah good ol' hubris. It's a shame there aren't more stories about the folly of it. Ancient stories even.
 

emperus

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Something doesn't make sense regarding this story. If Trump Jr's 3rd( or was it forth) account is accurate, why would the Russian lawyer lie in order to secure a meeting with Trump Jr? Surely after realizing the reason for the meeting was a lie, Trump Jr. and co. would be upset and not be as receptive to her advocacy. The question becomes, in that case what was she willing to offer in order for them to listen to what she had to say after they found out she was initially lying? And this lady seems to be a smart/adept lawyer/advocate for the Kremlin.
 
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zinfamous

No Lifer
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Why lend ammo and support to the OMG Russia! craze?

The bigger question is why didn't the Trump camp have a trusted Republican 3rd party do the meet? Personally I think it's because the Reps really don't want to support Trump any more than not having Billary elected (and a lot of them are in the Billary camp anyways due to richie rich ownership sharing with her). Got to wonder how much behind the scenes Trump can really trust the Rep establishment...I bet it ain't much...

at what point does it stop becoming a "Craze!" to you, and you sit down and accept that the current POTUS and his family colluded with a hostile foreign government to sway the election? When do you start accepting truth? So, the greater the pile of evidence, the greater the necessity to believe that the news is more fake? Is that where we are now?
 

agent00f

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at what point does it stop becoming a "Craze!" to you, and you sit down and accept that the current POTUS and his family colluded with a hostile foreign government to sway the election? When do you start accepting truth? So, the greater the pile of evidence, the greater the necessity to believe that the news is more fake? Is that where we are now?

Conservatives know the truth of it, but it's better for them that you believe they're dumb/ignorant than degenerate. Many liberals are frankly pretty easy to play.
 
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Pens1566

Lifer
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Any more goalpost moving on Russia, and they'll be back in their original starting point.

1) No one talked to russians
2) We don't remember talking to russians
3) We wanted to wish them a merry xmas
4) We don't have any russian investments
5) We might have met them at the convention
6) We might have sold them property
7) We talked but it wasn't important
8) We changed the party platform just because
9) We met because they offered dirt on HRC

I'm sure there are others in there ...
 
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Sunburn74

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Two prominent campaign officials retroactively registered as foreign agents working on behalf of a foreign government. You'd think that be a red flag of some sort that funny business was at play. I'm pretty sure that is something that has never happened before in US presidential politics.

Butter emails...
 

runzwithsizorz

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But I can understand some people's frustration. This tweet by Jr is basically admitting he was attempting to use a foreign contact to throw an election which is illegal. .[/QUOTE]

What??? Did you read the tweet?? Trump Jr. said the woman had information about the Clinton campaign that could be detrimental (commonly called "opposition research"). Turned out to be a big nothingburger. So after 20 minutes the meeting ended. Please don't tell me the Clinton campaign would not have done the same thing and meet with anyone who could discredit the Trump campaign (including Russians).
 

agent00f

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When the incidents are admitted or witnessed its not alleged. But just keep up your justifications

They know about his degenerate behavior with women, same as the racist pandering and so on. That's why they voted for someone they can identify with.
 

Pens1566

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The Moscow beauty pageant is going to be a factor soon.

It already was due to the Steele Dossier. Now the threads are just coming together in the press. I figure Mueller has had them tied together for quite some time. Notice he's hiring top shelf PROSECUTORs. There's a reason for that.
 

chucky2

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at what point does it stop becoming a "Craze!" to you, and you sit down and accept that the current POTUS and his family colluded with a hostile foreign government to sway the election? When do you start accepting truth? So, the greater the pile of evidence, the greater the necessity to believe that the news is more fake? Is that where we are now?

Do we have any actual evidence at this point or is it all still at the "Sources" stage? As in, a video or audio of Trump Jr. sitting down with an actual Russia Gov person and saying, Look, break into Billary's e-mail server - no!, not at the State Dept, the one in her bathroom - and get us some dirt on her so we counteract the dirt she has on us! ? Nothing so far, or, are we at the actual something stage yet? Also...

OMG Russia!
 

jackstar7

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What??? Did you read the tweet?? Trump Jr. said the woman had information about the Clinton campaign that could be detrimental (commonly called "opposition research"). Turned out to be a big nothingburger. So after 20 minutes the meeting ended. Please don't tell me the Clinton campaign would not have done the same thing and meet with anyone who could discredit the Trump campaign (including Russians).
RTFT.
 

Sunburn74

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But I can understand some people's frustration. This tweet by Jr is basically admitting he was attempting to use a foreign contact to throw an election which is illegal. .

What??? Did you read the tweet?? Trump Jr. said the woman had information about the Clinton campaign that could be detrimental (commonly called "opposition research"). Turned out to be a big nothingburger. So after 20 minutes the meeting ended. Please don't tell me the Clinton campaign would not have done the same thing and meet with anyone who could discredit the Trump campaign (including Russians).[/QUOTE]

Imagine if just prior to your marriage, your wife said to you that she adamantly never met any male strippers prior to your wedding.Then you later find out she did definitely meet with a couple of male strippers prior to your wedding, in a strip club where cameras were not allow. You ask her about it and now claims that all they did was talk about sports over tea and crackers.

1) Do you believe her ?
2) Does it really what they talked about? Particularly if your wife and her friends are currently under investigation for illegal activities with male strippers and one of her friends has already plead the fifth on the matter?
 

fskimospy

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What??? Did you read the tweet?? Trump Jr. said the woman had information about the Clinton campaign that could be detrimental (commonly called "opposition research"). Turned out to be a big nothingburger. So after 20 minutes the meeting ended. Please don't tell me the Clinton campaign would not have done the same thing and meet with anyone who could discredit the Trump campaign (including Russians).

Wait, so you guys are now just admitting that after months of denials the Trump campaign was colluding with Russian agents?
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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But I can understand some people's frustration. This tweet by Jr is basically admitting he was attempting to use a foreign contact to throw an election which is illegal.

What??? Did you read the tweet?? Trump Jr. said the woman had information about the Clinton campaign that could be detrimental (commonly called "opposition research"). Turned out to be a big nothingburger. So after 20 minutes the meeting ended. Please don't tell me the Clinton campaign would not have done the same thing and meet with anyone who could discredit the Trump campaign (including Russians).

who said it was a nothingburger? Trump Jr--the guy that has already lied 3 times about the subject of meeting (not to mention the fact that it actually occurred.)

Oh, so THIS time he is telling the truth about the meeting, and you feel he deserves your support....again? It's one thing to be conned, accept it, and move on. But to be conned multiple times, know that you've been conned, and beg for more is just pathetic. Stop being a loser.
 
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zinfamous

No Lifer
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Do we have any actual evidence at this point or is it all still at the "Sources" stage? As in, a video or audio of Trump Jr. sitting down with an actual Russia Gov person and saying, Look, break into Billary's e-mail server - no!, not at the State Dept, the one in her bathroom - and get us some dirt on her so we counteract the dirt she has on us! ? Nothing so far, or, are we at the actual something stage yet? Also...

OMG Russia!

well, we have a family of known con artists (..I don't think artist is the right word...circus barkers, maybe?) that have consistently lied, several times, about these instances, telling a new story each time...what do you call that? Is there a there there? I think so. Do you?

Are you still stuck on Butter emails, though? Not yet to move onto real investigations with ever-growing piles of evidence? You're more interested in theater and bluster, eh? But honestly, and take this as a hypothetical: what happens to your world if the incontrovertible weight of evidence turned up by the investigation shows the Trump family having worked with the Russians to obtain and disseminate illegally-acquired information? What happens next?
 
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zinfamous

No Lifer
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Wait, so you guys are now just admitting that after months of denials the Trump campaign was colluding with Russian agents?

what caught my ear this morning is the detail from the Trump lawyer/spokesrabbits about the "27 minute-long meeting" ...an awful precise detail about the length of a meeting that:

--never happened
--oh, was actually about adoptions
--oh, was actually about dirt on hillary, but there was nothing interesting
--oh, those people weren't actually there
--oh, they were, but they didn't do anything.

etc etc. ..it seems the lawyers were involved very early on or, at the very least, someone was taking some very detailed notes. At the very best (from Trump's perspective), it tells me that they knew this was bad going in, thought about covering their asses, because they were going in anyway.
 
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