Discussion Trump 2024

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sportage

Lifer
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2024. Thats a long time for an old person. Trump will defiantly need a facelift, heart valves, a few heart stents, hearing aid, hair implants (or more of them added to the group), some of that crap as seen on TV that removes bags under the eyes, Liposuction, a walker, a new slogan other than MEGA, and something for those darn hemorrhoids. Other than that, he's good to go for 2024. Just wheel him out on stage like Hannibal Lecter, remove the protective face gear, and wind him up.

 

VashHT

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Siiiiiigh
Back to the third term BS he kept repeating before the election. I know right wingers say it's a joke, but trump has been repeating it non stop just like the bullshit election fraud claims. I have no doubt he would actually try to run for a third term if he had the chance.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
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Back to the third term BS he kept repeating before the election. I know right wingers say it's a joke, but trump has been repeating it non stop just like the bullshit election fraud claims. I have no doubt he would actually try to run for a third term if he had the chance.

While I hate even attempting to be fair to that piece of shit, he wasn't referring to a third term this time. He was referring to "winning" a third time, because he falsely claims that he "won" the second time but was cheated out of it. In other words, he was making a different claim typical of a tin pot dictator than what you allege.
 

MtnMan

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Come to Texas, we are working on that. Right now nearly every freeway in Dallas has major construction going on and all of it is to be funded by turning normal lanes into toll lanes, and not just normal toll lanes but traffic dependent ones. The more traffic on the normal lanes the higher the toll goes on the toll lanes.
Texas is such a wonderful example of how to design a basic infrastructure for stuff like roads or electricity.
 
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MtnMan

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Although I just realized Trump only got 55% of the vote in the straw poll. If he's only pulling 55% of the hardest of the hard core Trumpkins that seems... very bad for him.
That was my first thought when I heard that. I mean these are the last kids picked to be on a team during phys-ed class. He was up against DeSantis, Kristy Noem, Donald Jr., Pompeo, and Cruz.
 
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VashHT

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While I hate even attempting to be fair to that piece of shit, he wasn't referring to a third term this time. He was referring to "winning" a third time, because he falsely claims that he "won" the second time but was cheated out of it. In other words, he was making a different claim typical of a tin pot dictator than what you allege.
Ah fair enough, I read it too fast and posted.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
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MtnMan

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I've purposely not watched any CPAC coverage as my reality tells me that Trump no longer exists. See how that works. Nothing is real....
Nor did I watch any of it, or even the news, well since maybe sometime in 2019.
 

soundforbjt

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Although I just realized Trump only got 55% of the vote in the straw poll. If he's only pulling 55% of the hardest of the hard core Trumpkins that seems... very bad for him.
But look at DeSantis, he’s just like Trump and he came in second or first if Trump didn’t run.
 

fskimospy

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But look at DeSantis, he’s just like Trump and he came in second or first if Trump didn’t run.

I mean those CPAC straw polls have zero predictive power anyways, they are nearly always wrong as to who the next nominee will be because this is only the craziest of the crazy at this thing. I do think it's a good representation of where the base is at though, and apparently the base is wavering on Trump as the next nominee.

From what I hear more generally you would think he would have gotten like 85%-90% of the vote instead of 55%. Apparently only 68% wanted him to run again at all, which is again pretty bad news for him.
 
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soundforbjt

Lifer
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I mean those CPAC straw polls have zero predictive power anyways, they are nearly always wrong as to who the next nominee will be because this is only the craziest of the crazy at this thing. I do think it's a good representation of where the base is at though, and apparently the base is wavering on Trump as the next nominee.

From what I hear more generally you would think he would have gotten like 85%-90% of the vote instead of 55%. Apparently only 68% wanted him to run again at all, which is again pretty bad news for him.
I doubt he runs, he wants to be a king-maker and repubs will go along until he fails. He’s in it for the money and to make all repub candidates pass the trump purity test and kiss the orange ring.
 

brycejones

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I doubt he runs, he wants to be a king-maker and repubs will go along until he fails. He’s in it for the money and to make all repub candidates pass the trump purity test and kiss the orange ring.
Very much this. He is looking to keep the grifting going and forcing people to seek his approval feeds his narcissism.
 

fskimospy

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Very much this. He is looking to keep the grifting going and forcing people to seek his approval feeds his narcissism.
Yes and unless some disaster befalls the country or Biden or whatever I think he will also not want to expose himself to a second loss. I mean he had nearly every possible advantage in 2020 and lost, and his stature in the country has only deteriorated since then. If the country is on a reasonably decent trajectory in 2024 and Republicans re-nominate Trump he will be annihilated.
 

zzyzxroad

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I think that that CPAC poll was telling. Getting only 55% pick you for president and 17 % not wanting you to run again leads me to believe some republicans are clearly off the trump train.
 
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MtnMan

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I mean even if a news show starts to show clips I switch over or off. Just hearing Trump's voice exhaust me.
Hearing his toddler vocabulary babble is probably the lead reason I cut the cord last year. I get the exhaustion part, other peoples stupidity wears one down quickly.
 

Amol S.

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If Trump does run, this is my prediction of how things will play out. Minnesota and Pennsylvania would remain Democrat. The other toss-up states would remain toss-up. However, one of Nebraska's congressional districts woulx be a toss-up, and Alaska would be a toss-up as well. With this in play, it would mean that Trump must win Florida and Texas, to have any chance of winning.

 

NTMBK

Lifer
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If Trump does run, this is my prediction of how things will play out. Minnesota and Pennsylvania would remain Democrat. The other toss-up states would remain toss-up. However, one of Nebraska's congressional districts woulx be a toss-up, and Alaska would be a toss-up as well. With this in play, it would mean that Trump must win Florida and Texas, to have any chance of winning.


Not sure why you think Alaska would be in play? Trump won it by 10 points in 2020.
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
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Not sure why you think Alaska would be in play? Trump won it by 10 points in 2020.
same reason they put about a dozen other states "in play".
They swung sharply left in 2020 and in some cases it was a real surprise.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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When in fact the USPS is a "service" that provides value, never designed to be a "profitable" business.
The FAA, which keeps flying safe is a "service", perhaps their business model should be a "for profit" model. The FDA which protects us from bad drugs, USDA food, etc.
Or how about the Air Force, or Navy?
How about the state DOT, make roads profitable or close them. Law enforcement, fire, rescue, EMS, all valuable and necessary "services" that are not required to be profitable.

this post of yours is a crime against humanity, for the potentially billions and billions of future libertopian children that were murdered here, when their would-be fathers extinguished their future lives in a single exorcism of ecstasy, all over their computer displays, upon reading this BDSM fan-fiction that you created for them.
 
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Jhhnn

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same reason they put about a dozen other states "in play".
They swung sharply left in 2020 and in some cases it was a real surprise.
Alaska swung towards Trump in 2020...

Neither of you have it right. Alaska didn't move much at all in 2020-



There's more noise in the 2016 numbers because of third party candidates.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
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Neither of you have it right. Alaska didn't move much at all in 2020-



There's more noise in the 2016 numbers because of third party candidates.

How does moving from +14.75% R to +10.06% R constant "not much at all?"

I agree there is no reason to assume Alaska will be in play in 2024, but that is not a statistically insignificant move.
 
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