Trump acts against Syria- 49 Tomahawk Missiles strike air force base.

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bshole

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So Raytheon is set to make a tidy little profit. Their stock is getting a nice spike from this little bit of blood-letting....

Raytheon, the company that makes the Tomahawk missiles used in the air strikes on Syria by the United States, is rising in early stock trading Friday:
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Raytheon (RTN) wasn't the only defense stock rising Friday either. Lockheed Martin (LMT), which partners with Raytheon on the Javelin missile launcher system and also makes Hellfire missiles, gained nearly 1%.

I can't make up mind whether it is Saudi Arabia or our own defense contractors that are wagging this dog. I suspect of bit of both.
 

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So Raytheon is set to make a tidy little profit. Their stock is getting a nice spike from this little bit of blood-letting....



I can't make up mind whether it is Saudi Arabia or our own defense contractors that are wagging this dog. I suspect of bit of both.

What blood? No casualties because Assad was given warning and enough time to evacuate men and equipment so the bombing would be nothing but a fireworks show... one that left the airbase fully operational I might add...

This was nothing more than a 50+ million fireworks show meant to deflect from the Russian scandal.
 

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What blood? No casualties because Assad was given warning and enough time to evacuate men and equipment so the bombing would be nothing but a fireworks show... one that left the airbase fully operational I might add...

This was nothing more than a 50+ million fireworks show meant to deflect from the Russian scandal.

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Fact: Putin and Assad were warned.

Fact: Assad moved men and equipment prior to the attack.

Fact: Minimal damage at the airbase.

Fact: No human casualties

Fact: Airbase still fully operational.

So no. It's not a reach to suggest this is theater.

Someone was going on about false equivalency here earlier. I believe you're doing it.
 

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Fact: Putin and Assad were warned.

Fact: Assad moved men and equipment prior to the attack.

Fact: Minimal damage at the airbase.

Fact: No human casualties

Fact: Airbase still fully operational.

So no. It's not a reach to suggest this is theater.

Someone was going on about false equivalency here earlier. I believe you're doing it.


First- Words. I didn't make equivalencies because there are none.

Second- I know all the above and there's nothing hidden in them. There was no intent to kill people. You went full conspiracy when none is needed. At this point there's as much evidence for this being a Putin setup as Bush conspiring to bring down the WTC.

You missed the obvious. Assad used gas and he was not told about a red line, minimal action was displayed to know more serious action can follow.

Now if Trump does start pounding other targets and killing Syrian soldiers and destroying significant infrastructure are you going to say "oh I guess he was serious" or complain because Trump is doing what you said he didn't before? I'm going with the latter.

If Trump screws up I'll be all over him but so far I like his action better than your desire to kill Syrians and Russians. That would be stupid for a first action.
 

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First- Words. I didn't make equivalencies because there are none.

Second- I know all the above and there's nothing hidden in them. There was no intent to kill people. You went full conspiracy when none is needed. At this point there's as much evidence for this being a Putin setup as Bush conspiring to bring down the WTC.

You missed the obvious. Assad used gas and he was not told about a red line, minimal action was displayed to know more serious action can follow.

Now if Trump does start pounding other targets and killing Syrian soldiers and destroying significant infrastructure are you going to say "oh I guess he was serious" or complain because Trump is doing what you said he didn't before? I'm going with the latter.

If Trump screws up I'll be all over him but so far I like his action better than your desire to kill Syrians and Russians. That would be stupid for a first action.

Fully conspiracy is not making a suggestion.

If Trump actually does start pounding Assad's troops, I'll eat crow.

As it stands now, this:
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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Fully conspiracy is not making a suggestion.

If Trump actually does start pounding Assad's troops, I'll eat crow.

As it stands now, this:

As it stands right now that's unfounded but deeply desired conspiracy on your part. A cartoon makes it real? You have to have (well in the real world) evidence. I would have handled this as Mattis did. Am I now a Russian internet plant? You provide evidence of conspiracy then we'll look at it again, but you are in birther territory.
 

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As it stands right now that's unfounded but deeply desired conspiracy on your part. A cartoon makes it real? You have to have (well in the real world) evidence. I would have handled this as Mattis did. Am I now a Russian internet plant? You provide evidence of conspiracy then we'll look at it again, but you are in birther territory.

No desire needed. It's the only explanation that fits all the facts.

Since when do we give forewarning of an attack?

I'm making no claims of fact. I am merely speculating, Meanwhile, virtually everything that comes out of Trump is pure Bullshit so is automatic disbelief of this really birther territory?

Context. It matters.
 

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No desire needed. It's the only explanation that fits all the facts.

Since when do we give forewarning of an attack?

I'm making no claims of fact. I am merely speculating, Meanwhile, virtually everything that comes out of Trump is pure Bullshit so is automatic disbelief of this really birther territory?

Context. It matters.

No, it is not the only explanation. It's already been discussed and it is not about damage. At all.
 

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His dog is quite serious right now.

But me? I'm still scratching my head over the "national security" claim behind this.
 

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Hayabusa Rider

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So...

When taken in context, further collusion as it pertains to Putin and his interests with Assad are absurd conspiracies? Above suspicion?

Are you serious right now?

You simply do not understand strategic response. The first thing you fly to is conspiracy without any basis except for attacking a perfectly rational action on the part of the US. You labled this "War and retaliation". That would be the most stupid thing to do since Iraq. Further if there were conspiracy it would be the stupid beyond Trump and remember Mattis is in the mix and a couple other very good people. All that damage that didn't happen would have if Putin were complicit because he doesn't give a fuck about Syrians. This would have the qualities you insist are missing like a lot of blood.

I'll translate.

Red line drawn by Obama. Assad crosses it and nothing happens. Obama is full of shit, or so Assad assumes.
Trump elected and being another American he'll rant and rave and ignore Assad. If Trump responds then Assad knows that he is at risk.

Diplomacy, not war. A message not bodies and it makes perfect sense. Trump now has "talked" to Syria.

Now if Assad ignores the warning then watch what happens. If nothing more substantial happens in terms of US response then we'll look at it then.

But willfully killing Russians? What kind of drugs does it take to want that? That's real shit right there. I'll be damned if I want that. YMMV
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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Staged by collusion between Putin and Trump to distract attention from former collusion of Putin and Trump? Cm'on this must have come up in some one's mind by now.

Yes the birther equivalents are out.
 

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Hopefully shit head Al Asad will get the point and Russia will urge him never to use these weapons again otherwise he loses all his air bases.

I said this before. We should have bombed his airbases long ago. And now with Ruissa over there this is one big mess.
In other news, an attack took off from *that* air base this morning, on the same target city.
 

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Yes the birther equivalents are out.

So suggesting ongoing collusion (that fits the facts quite well, actually) while a valid investigation of ongoing collusion with the very same people is akin to the completely unfounded birtherism?

Are you listening to yourself?
 

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So suggesting ongoing collusion (that fits the facts quite well, actually) while a valid investigation of ongoing collusion with the very same people is akin to the completely unfounded birtherism?

Are you listening to yourself?

I'm listening to the conversation. I'm the guy saying this is an extension of diplomacy and you are saying that because Trump didn't start a war with Russia by willfully targeting their people it must be a conspiracy.
 
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