Trump admin reverses Obama on Affirmative Action

SP33Demon

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/03/us/politics/trump-affirmative-action-race-schools.html

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration will encourage the nation’s school superintendents and college presidents to adopt race-blind admissions standards, abandoning an Obama administration policy that called on universities to consider race as a factor in diversifying their campuses, administration officials said.

Last November, Attorney General Jeff Sessions asked the Justice Department to re-evaluate past policies that he believed pushed the department to act beyond what the law, the Constitution and the Supreme Court had required, Devin M. O’Malley, a Justice Department spokesman said. As part of that process, the Justice Department rescinded seven policy guidances from the Education Department’s civil rights division on Tuesday.
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The Trump administration’s plan would scrap the existing policies and encourage schools not to consider race at all. The new policy would not have the force of law, but it amounts to the official view of the federal government. School officials who keep their admissions policies intact would do so knowing that they could face a Justice Department investigation or lawsuit, or lose federal funding from the Education Department.

It's about time. Meritocracy is winning again thanks to the Donald. No more admissions based on skin color, only GPA/test scores for people who actually earned it. Harvard is about to learn the hard way once the lawsuit is over that they can't discriminate against Asians. Sorry Obama, but another one comes off the books for your "legacy".
 

pete6032

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Why do you have to call him "The Donald." What is that about? Why can't you just call him the president, or Trump? People who say "The Donald" sound like nincompoops.
 
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IronWing

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The Obama legacy and the Bush II legacy and the Clinton legacy and the Bush I legacy and the Reagan legacy and the Carter, Ford, and Nixon legacy. Jeff Sessions is a disgusting human being. I can see why you like him. Also, the former policy was built on case law. Sessions apparently has decided to re-litigate Jim Crow.
 

SP33Demon

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The Obama legacy and the Bush II legacy and the Clinton legacy and the Bush I legacy and the Reagan legacy and the Carter, Ford, and Nixon legacy. Jeff Sessions is a disgusting human being. I can see why you like him. Also, the former policy was built on case law. Sessions apparently has decided to re-litigate Jim Crow.
So do you believe that my kids should get into Harvard over yours because we are minorities and you aren't? Despite my kids performing lower on tests, lower GPA than yours? Be honest.
 
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sactoking

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Yeah, let's put all those black people back in the fields where they belong and not in school where they might learn enough to get a job that would force me to interact with them!
 

umbrella39

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Conservaterrorist racists can't contain their microerections.... When will we finally level the playing field so us oppressed white men can get our fair shake in this Country!
 
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JSt0rm

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Conservaterrorist racists can't contain their microerections.... When will we finally level the playing field so us oppressed white men can get our fair shake in this Country!

But its not leveling the playing field. Some kid who group up in abject poverty with the worst schools, a broken home life and crime all over the place gets exceptional grades for his environment? Somehow we arent supposed to take into account the socio-economics because why? Some white people are offended the people they oppressed will be recognized for hard work?
 
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Jhhnn

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So do you believe that my kids should get into Harvard over yours because we are minorities and you aren't? Despite my kids performing lower on tests, lower GPA than yours? Be honest.

At least 99.99% of high school graduates will never get into Harvard. Your point is what, exactly?
 

IronWing

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So do you believe that my kids should get into Harvard over yours because we are minorities and you aren't? Despite my kids performing lower on tests, lower GPA than yours? Be honest.
Like you give a shit about kids, LOL!
 

Svnla

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I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.

MLK.

Sadly, his dream is not there yet.
 
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SP33Demon

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But its not leveling the playing field. Some kid who group up in abject poverty with the worst schools, a broken home life and crime all over the place gets exceptional grades for his environment? Somehow we arent supposed to take into account the socio-economics because why? Some white people are offended the people they oppressed will be recognized for hard work?
He'd still go to a good school. And if he has the grades and test scores to go to an Ivy League school, then I'm all for it. What I'm not for is if someone with monumentally better scores is left out because of skin color.
 
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Nobody should be getting admission due to their race, this is just wrong. This also discriminates against Asians which is unacceptable.
 
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ivwshane

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He'd still go to a good school. And if he has the grades and test scores to go to an Ivy League school, then I'm all for it. What I'm not for is if someone with monumentally better scores is left out because of skin color.

You should just stop right their before you remove all doubt that you are completely clueless about how affirmative action works.
 

JSt0rm

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He'd still go to a good school. And if he has the grades and test scores to go to an Ivy League school, then I'm all for it. What I'm not for is if someone with monumentally better scores is left out because of skin color.

Nobody should be getting admission due to their race, this is just wrong. This also discriminates against Asians which is unacceptable.

Like these 2 bone heads know anything about college.
 

SP33Demon

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You should just stop right their before you remove all doubt that you are completely clueless about how affirmative action works.
Yes, please tell us how it has been standardized and quantified among all Americans for kids getting "exceptional grades for their environment"? It doesn't exist, so cut the BS.
 

JSt0rm

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first you would need to standardize the environment. Thats not possible.
 

cytg111

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Nobody should be getting admission due to their race, this is just wrong. This also discriminates against Asians which is unacceptable.
That could be true? It could also be true that such programs seek to level out or balance an allready discriminating envorinment?
 

ivwshane

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Yes, please tell us how it has been standardized and quantified among all Americans for kids getting "exceptional grades for their environment"? It doesn't exist, so cut the BS.

You apparently don't know the difference between policy goals and how policies are implemented. I wasn't complaining about your claims of a failed policy, I was disputing your claim of how it works.
 
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