Trump Administration Wanted to Use Government Policy to Punish Political Enemies

[pauldun170]

They should follow through on it.
The legal shitstorm that would follow would be hilarious.

Immigration is a federal issue. If The Federal government willfully and forcefully accepts and relocates immigrants to the state, then that could be interpreted as granting legal resident status.
Sanctuary cities could then work with governors to establish these new residents as citizens of the state.
Economic oppurtuinity zones could be created where the massive influx of labor could entice manufacturers and industry from around the world.
People forget that a lot of these folks who are fleeing stuff in their own county have abandoned their old jobs and have things like "Engineering degrees","trade experience", "Law degrees", college educations etc ect.
Ever work on a factory floor with a Venezuelan TV producer? A Columbian Accountant? A nurse from Ecuador? I have.
Recently saw an article where all the red counties in New York are loosing their white folks to shitholes like Florida.
Lots of cheap housing up there, plenty of space and lots of space for industry. All close to major port cities. Seems like a win-win.

Think of the lawsuits invoking the citizenship clause. "Does the actions of accepting and forcibly placing people in a state amount to a naturalization? Will all those asshole originalist with there "what the founders intended BS like to revisit the original rules of naturalization where if you were here for 5 years then POOF you are a citizen?

Think of all the new babies born by folks forcibly relocated by the US government. Bingo bango 14th amendment. Brown citizens!!!
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the State wherein they reside.

All the BS with gangs and crime pop up when you force immigrants to hide. If Trump were to send immigrant families to sanctuary cities...how exactly would they do it? Bus them in and drop them off at a street corner?
Dump them in federal jails located in sanctuary cities? How would they record and document all this.

The idea is stupid generated by idiotic twatwaffles and embraced by the sort of moronic foxnews watching idiots who don't give a crap about the issue and instead just want o snicker at the enemies FoxNews has taught them to hate.

 

[UNCjigga]

If anyone’s reaction to this was “Fake News!”, Trump just confirmed their policy plans via Twitter:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1116742280919044096

 

[K1052]

lol after the WH spent like 16 hours trying to knock this down as something that wasn't even being considered.

If it sounds mean, stupid, illegal, and something a child would do for revenge you can usually rest assured it's something they'd talk about doing.

 

[TeeJay1952]

It's a good thing that ONLY majority voters will be affected and not everyone. Shame that Trump only only has the best interest of some not all.

 

[hal2kilo]

If anyone’s reaction to this was “Fake News!”, Trump just confirmed their policy plans via Twitter:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1116742280919044096

So no adults left in the WH to tell him it's not a good idea to admit to trying to do something illegal. You go Orangeboy.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Ignoring the crazy train where this proposal came from.
Admitting I haven’t read the whole thread heard something interesting today.

Does the President believe these people are dangerous, Sarah Huckabee has said they are not so no harm dropping them off somewhere.

Is the President being less that truthful about who is entering the boarder illegally or are they dangerous and he’s hoping to make a Political point when one commits a crime?

 

[K1052]

House Oversight should start subpoenaing people. Current and former DHS officials plus Stephen Miller. Push that little turd out into the spotlight exactly where he doesn't want to be.

 

[TheVrolok]

Well, as usual, shortly after his administration brushed it off, he has now confirmed he's thinking about it.

These Trump loyalists are fucking nuts.

 

[VRAMdemon]

This is the "Trump logic" of dumping refugees/immigrants/whatnot in Democratic centers:

1) Trump - all the refugees who are "pouring" in are violent criminals, so crime will rise, and the Dems will be sorry!. Is that an attempt to kill Democrats?. Hiring an undercover police officer to kill your wife won't work, but you'd still go to jail for it.

2) Democrats are getting non-citizens voting, so let's send them more. If Dems used non-citizens to vote, then having more of them is a good thing..lol

This policy says 2 things about the Trump Administration, (1) that he sees American cities as enemies to be punished; and (2) that he sees immigrants as nothing more than a weapon to punish people with.

 

[ElFenix]

i'd rather have people willing to grind out work than additional trumpkins. please bring your food with you, migrants, i'll buy some.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

i'd rather have people willing to grind out work than additional trumpkins. please bring your food with you, migrants, i'll buy some.

and Taco Trucks too.

 

[Moonbeam]

Human life is a struggle to find a way to live with the damage done to our sense value in who we are. As we grow up we deal with the need to feel acceptance, how deeply were we battered for deviance, how abnormal were the strictures we were forced to conform to, how much encouragement did we we get to fight on, did we have mentors, how successful were we personally in navigating all of this.

Did we succumb to feelings of self worth and break, make the decision to become what we were threatened with, or did we suppress the negative in favor of striving for better things?

For those most deeply injured, most enraged, most bitter and vengeful for what happened, these are the ones we should most fear. These are the brown shirt wannabes, the Stockholm sufferers who want to share their misery. These are the ones who seek authoritarian control so none will do to them what they want to do to you. They are the ones today that Trump has pealed away with the promise their chance to punish is at hand.

They are two things. They are both the worst among us and the most damaged. Have a care as to how you react to them. The greater you hate what they are, the deeper you suppress the the capacity to recognize that part of yourself that is just like them that and that you struggle against. The struggle we have faced all our lives, of course, is to become more conscious of the shadows within us, not less.

 

[trenchfoot]

no no no, they welcome it. They've been convinced that it's winning, because 40+ years of GOP agitprop have convinced them that white male christians are the biggest victims on the planet, and that it is the fault of the government and brown-black people.

Agreed.

Imagine that. The fear of being equal to those that for one stupid reason or another, shouldn't be. The fear of having some kind of advantage, of being superior to others based on skin color is being eroded by being outnumbered.

This is exactly what the GOP have been exploiting since the arrival of the Voting Rights Act and other laws that were enacted that specifically promoted equality of (to name a few) race, gender, employment, wages, access to healthcare and education.

These are the very laws that the GOP have been trying to get rid of or circumvent from the day they were enacted by in large part, Democrats.

Hmmmm, I wonder why that is.

 

[Jaskalas]

Color me shocked that ‘fiscal conservatives’ have no problem with wasting their hard earned tax dollars so long as it’s done through abusing government power to attack their enemies.

Cities and States hosting illegals are under attack?

It is a wonder our policy does not simply stop them at the border then. Rather than catching and releasing into the United States. Today's status quo is that our country becomes host for any number of millions who show up. Just by virtue of them showing up. I'd rather stop them from crossing but if we are prevented from doing that, it does seem a bit of a just dessert for the open borders lobby to reap their own rewards.

Is it so wrong that, if you force us to host people, you deal with the consequences?

 

[fskimospy]

Cities and States hosting illegals are under attack?

It is a wonder our policy does not simply stop them at the border then. Rather than catching and releasing into the United States. Today's status quo is that our country becomes host for any number of millions who show up. Just by virtue of them showing up. I'd rather stop them from crossing but if we are prevented from doing that, it does seem a bit of a just dessert for the open borders lobby to reap their own rewards.

Is it so wrong that, if you force us to host people, you deal with the consequences?

There is not a single, solitary significant Democratic politician who is in favor of open borders that I am aware of. Regardless, sanctuary cities exist because of absolute bedrock granite conservative principles that every conservative should believe to their core. Any conservative who is against sanctuary cities is not a conservative that believes in the Constitution. Full stop. Otherwise you are talking about the federal government usurping the sovereignty of the states.

In addition if you think that the federal government attempting to punish localities for supporting policies the current president disagrees with is a good thing we are in for a very bad time as a country - one that will almost certainly descend into civil war. For example Republican areas currently support policies that are jacking up the debt to give rich people tax cuts. Maybe the next time Democrats come into power they should raise taxes on conservative areas alone, have them work to pay off the debt they ran up. They should reap what they sow after all, right?

 

[Moonbeam]

Cities and States hosting illegals are under attack?

It is a wonder our policy does not simply stop them at the border then. Rather than catching and releasing into the United States. Today's status quo is that our country becomes host for any number of millions who show up. Just by virtue of them showing up. I'd rather stop them from crossing but if we are prevented from doing that, it does seem a bit of a just dessert for the open borders lobby to reap their own rewards.

Is it so wrong that, if you force us to host people, you deal with the consequences?

I agree. Trump came into office with a house and senate majority. They could have passed immigration reform but didn't. That means that all of the immigrants flooding in should be sent to red states. Time for them to learn their lesson. The only interest Republicans have in immigration reform is in keeping it as a wedge issue to win elections. Same with abortion and health care. They have to have issues to fear monger over and juice their amydalas.

 

[hal2kilo]

I agree. Trump came into office with a house and senate majority. They could have passed immigration reform but didn't. That means that all of the immigrants flooding in should be sent to red states. Time for them to learn their lesson. The only interest Republicans have in immigration reform is in keeping it as a wedge issue to win elections. Same with abortion and health care. They have to have issues to fear monger over and juice their amydalas.

It's all part of the massive gas lighting that this administration puts out constantly. We must blame this on the brown border, because,...because........

More problems with criminals to our north

 

[fskimospy]

Something else that people often don't get is that border cities are generally supportive of more liberal immigration policies, not more conservative ones. The real drivers of immigrant panic in the US are in place that have very few immigrants.

I've always found it funny that people in New York City, San Diego/LA, border towns in Texas, etc, generally have no problem with immigrants and increased immigration. It's the people in the middle of Nebraska or western PA that are enraged by it.

 

[Zorba]

I don’t have a problem with this. Assholes running these states/cities/ etc want to grandstand protecting people who don’t belong here, time to put your money where your mouth is.

Meanwhile, Oklahoman Republicans used the exact same argument to justify letting potheads having concealed carry permits.

 

[K1052]

Cities and States hosting illegals are under attack?

It is a wonder our policy does not simply stop them at the border then. Rather than catching and releasing into the United States. Today's status quo is that our country becomes host for any number of millions who show up. Just by virtue of them showing up. I'd rather stop them from crossing but if we are prevented from doing that, it does seem a bit of a just dessert for the open borders lobby to reap their own rewards.

Is it so wrong that, if you force us to host people, you deal with the consequences?

Allow them to legally emigrate and us stupid urban libs will take everybody Central America can send us to turbocharge our economies. I am fully content to let no migrants move to rural America so it's descent into oblivion can continue apace.

Problem solved.

 

[Vic]

I don’t have a problem with this. Assholes running these states/cities/ etc want to grandstand protecting people who don’t belong here, time to put your money where your mouth is.

Thank you for being honest about the fact that, while conservatives claim to be for small government and freedom, their only real agenda is to use the government to punish people for exercising their freedom in a way they disagree with.

 

[K1052]

Something else that people often don't get is that border cities are generally supportive of more liberal immigration policies, not more conservative ones. The real drivers of immigrant panic in the US are in place that have very few immigrants.

I've always found it funny that people in New York City, San Diego/LA, border towns in Texas, etc, generally have no problem with immigrants and increased immigration. It's the people in the middle of Nebraska or western PA that are enraged by it.

The administration is considerably out of step with what the electorate actually wants wrt immigration (generally more of it). The insane scaremongering over it for the midterms resulted in a massive ass whopping for the GOP so leaning more into it is an interesting plan right up there with pushing millions off health coverage.

Left to their own devices Trump/Miller would zero out all immigration period. Basically nobody wants that. I guess the alternative is to turn us into such a shitty looking place that maybe people won't want to come, though that seems to be backfiring.

 

[Vic]

Cities and States hosting illegals are under attack?

It is a wonder our policy does not simply stop them at the border then. Rather than catching and releasing into the United States. Today's status quo is that our country becomes host for any number of millions who show up. Just by virtue of them showing up. I'd rather stop them from crossing but if we are prevented from doing that, it does seem a bit of a just dessert for the open borders lobby to reap their own rewards.

Is it so wrong that, if you force us to host people, you deal with the consequences?

The problems you describe are the result of our decades-old immigration laws. Which were written by Congress, not the cities and states.

 

[K1052]

What the living fuck.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1116787246303195136

 

[hal2kilo]

and Taco Trucks too.

Nothing better than an Anaheim roach coach.