Trump Administration Wanted to Use Government Policy to Punish Political Enemies

[Brainonska511]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immi...839bc8-5c68-11e9-9625-01d48d50ef75_story.html

White House officials first broached the plan in a Nov. 16 email, asking officials at several agencies whether members of the caravan could be arrested at the border and then bused “to small- and mid-sized sanctuary cities,” places where local authorities have refused to hand over illegal immigrants for deportation.

The White House told U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement that the plan was intended to alleviate a shortage of detention space but also served to send a message to Democrats. The attempt at political retribution raised alarm within ICE, with a top official responding that it was rife with budgetary and liability concerns, and noting that “there are PR risks as well.”

After the White House pressed again in February, ICE’s legal department rejected the idea as inappropriate and rebuffed the administration.
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The White House believed it could punish Democrats — including Pelosi — by busing ICE detainees into their districts before their release, according to two DHS whistleblowers who independently reported the busing plan to Congress. One of the whistleblowers spoke with The Washington Post, and several DHS officials confirmed the accounts. They spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations.

Another day, another preposterous thing out of this White House. Pretty disgusting breech of public trust to try and punish perceived enemies using government policy. "That's a nice sanctuary city you've got there, it would be a shame if some ICE detainees were released into it..."

 

[interchange]

Yeah...It's pretty disgusting. I would wish for anyone to see this paradigm of vindictiveness as bad for the country regardless of political affiliation or beliefs on immigration. I wonder if there is a Republican here who would stand against this?

 

[cytg111]

Came to post this ... That is batshit crazy insane .....

 

[HomerJS]

Yeah...It's pretty disgusting. I would wish for anyone to see this paradigm of vindictiveness as bad for the country regardless of political affiliation or beliefs on immigration. I wonder if there is a Republican here who would stand against this?

I wouldn't count on it. Just watch here. The same people who consistently suck Trump's ass will continue to suck Trump's ass.

 

[K1052]

It's almost like you aren't supposed to nakedly use law enforcement agencies for political retribution or something. Had this plan been carried out the government and agents/officials doing it would have been exposed to absolutely massive legal liabilities not to mention the tiny problem of ICE not having the authority to do this in the first place.

When the villany is comic book level incompetent you can tell it's a Stephen Miller plan.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

This isn't just about using policy to punish opponents. He wanted to use the full force of federal law enforcement to do it. Total and complete abuse of power. Explains the mass exodus from DHS. Apparently the core of the FBI etc... was too loyal to their roles and their country so he shifted to DHS instead. They are more sympathetic to Trump's ideals.

Word from the GOP on it is "VOTE TRUMP!".

 

[ch33zw1z]

And Steve Miller is the he driving force behind this, who knew?

 

[Sinsear]

I don’t have a problem with this. Assholes running these states/cities/ etc want to grandstand protecting people who don’t belong here, time to put your money where your mouth is.

 

[HomerJS]

I don’t have a problem with this. Assholes running these states/cities/ etc want to grandstand protecting people who don’t belong here, time to put your money where your mouth is.

Right on queue. I can hear the sucking sounds. Use federal resources to punish political foes. Nothing wrong with that??

 

[MomentsofSanity]

I don’t have a problem with this. Assholes running these states/cities/ etc want to grandstand protecting people who don’t belong here, time to put your money where your mouth is.

You have no argument with the federal government using law enforcement as a tool to punish their opponents?

And they are the ones grandstanding?

 

[fskimospy]

I don’t have a problem with this. Assholes running these states/cities/ etc want to grandstand protecting people who don’t belong here, time to put your money where your mouth is.

Haha, and there we go! I knew at least one conservative would be hypocritical enough to defend this.

You’re saying you don’t have a problem with the federal government expending your tax dollars and taking agents off the line who could be used to secure the border in order to transport detainees across the country for no discernible federal purpose other than to punish cities and states who are exercising their 10th amendment right to not use their resources to enforce federal law. Funny how you guys were such big 10th amendment fans until it was used for reasons you didn’t like. Lol.

I can only imagine how apoplectic with rage you would have been if Obama had the DOJ release large quantities of violent federal prisoners in conservative areas because of their unwillingness to enact gun control.

I remember when Obama was president how we talked about how conservatives were projecting when they accused Obama of all sorts of tyrannical behaviors. Conservatives thought Obama must be acting that way because that’s how conservatives viewed themselves acting if they were in charge. Turns out I was right.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Looks like the point of the policy isn't whether it is better or worse for the asylum seekers or whether it's better or worse for the United States, but whether it is cruel and diabolical enough to make sure the people that love Trump continue to support him and reelect him.

And this policy is cruel to the right people, and is a perceived attack on political enemies. It's a MAGAorgasm.

 

[zinfamous]

Yeah...It's pretty disgusting. I would wish for anyone to see this paradigm of vindictiveness as bad for the country regardless of political affiliation or beliefs on immigration. I wonder if there is a Republican here who would stand against this?

no no no, they welcome it. They've been convinced that it's winning, because 40+ years of GOP agitprop have convinced them that white male christians are the biggest victims on the planet, and that it is the fault of the government and brown-black people.

 

[fskimospy]

Looks like the point of the policy isn't whether it is better or worse for the asylum seekers or whether it's better or worse for the United States, but whether it is cruel and diabolical enough to make sure the people that love Trump continue to support him and reelect him.

And this policy is cruel to the right people, and is a perceived attack on political enemies. It's a MAGAorgasm.

As per the article one of the reasons it wasn’t enacted was that DHS concluded they could determine no legitimate government purpose for expending funds to do this.

Color me shocked that ‘fiscal conservatives’ have no problem with wasting their hard earned tax dollars so long as it’s done through abusing government power to attack their enemies.

 

[dawp]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immi...839bc8-5c68-11e9-9625-01d48d50ef75_story.html





Another day, another preposterous thing out of this White House. Pretty disgusting breech of public trust to try and punish perceived enemies using government policy. "That's a nice sanctuary city you've got there, it would be a shame if some ICE detainees were released into it..."

I think this would have backfired on the admin once it came out if this had been implemented, and it it would have come out.

 

[umbrella39]

Right on queue. I can hear the sucking sounds. Use federal resources to punish political foes. Nothing wrong with that??

It's always enlightening when one of the OV shows back up on the boards to let the world know nothing has changed since 9/11

They are then, now, and will forever be on the wrong side of literally every single issue or newsworthy story... Same shit different toilet...

 

[UNCjigga]

Oh the hilarity of ICE being “concerned” about the PR implications.

 

[UNCjigga]

I don’t have a problem with this. Assholes running these states/cities/ etc want to grandstand protecting people who don’t belong here, time to put your money where your mouth is.

Spoken like a true devotee of jackbooted federal agents stomping on states’ rights!

Just one question—why do you hate America?

 

[fskimospy]

Spoken like a true devotee of jackbooted federal agents stomping on states’ rights!

Just one question—why do you hate America?

It's kind of amazing how enraged conservatives became when they found out that the 10th amendment can be used to protect brown people as well as attack them.

 

[Homerboy]

OP's thread title is the proper headline that should be used for this news article. That's the crux of the whole story. It is quite remarkable that something like this is even suggested. WTF has our country devolved into?

 

[K1052]

I don’t have a problem with this. Assholes running these states/cities/ etc want to grandstand protecting people who don’t belong here, time to put your money where your mouth is.

Let them legally immigrate and deal motherfucker. We've got labor shortages across the board.

 

[VRAMdemon]

As per the article one of the reasons it wasn’t enacted was that DHS concluded they could determine no legitimate government purpose for expending funds to do this.

Color me shocked that ‘fiscal conservatives’ have no problem with wasting their hard earned tax dollars so long as it’s done through abusing government power to attack their enemies.

The proposed policy is mostly a reflection on how Trump sees immigrants. That the administration sees human beings with no proper documentation as some sort of smallpox blanket that he can inflict upon his enemies says everything you need to know about this bunch. Actually, the current administration and the plutarchs who support it view all human beings as nothing more than entities from which all possible money is to be squeezed. The Trumpists are people who have bought the snake oil they are peddling.

 

[Stryke1983]

Misuse of taxpayer's money, federal government overreach, abuse of government authority for personal vendettas. Add it to the long list of things, such as fiscal irresponsibility and election fraud, that the Republicans rail against, but are actually those most responsible for it.

 

[Thump553]

I see nothing at all surprising about this. IMO nearly every action Trump takes can be classed into two categories: (1) those designed to benefit him, his family and his cronies, (2) those designed to excite his political base and (3) those designed to punish his enemies. Sometimes an action does both (prime example is his income tax changes, with the billionaire subsidies together with punishment of blue states).

Once you realize that Trump has essentially no political philosophy, but instead does things on a self-benefit/punishment of his (current) enemies basis, it's almost easy to predict what this bull in a china shop will do.

 

[Indus]

I hope the next few democratic presidents pay them back with interest!