Trump and Kim have now shaken hands...breaking

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wahdangun

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Feb 3, 2011
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Good, first step towards diplomacy.

Hate all you want about Trump, but he doing a good job after his elected.
 

sportage

Lifer
Feb 1, 2008
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Too bad the great grand orange one doesn't treat his fellow American's as lovely as he treats communist dictators.

He calls Kim "A Talented Man", and the American free press "Fake News".
Trump bows to Kim the dictator, yet treats Football players as traitors for expressing free speech.
Trump grabs women by the woozy, yet grabs Kim lovely and gently by the arm.
Trump praises Kim's staff, yet calls his own idiots, nut jobs, and worthless. Then fires them.

Be assured... we are living in strange times indeed.
Earning respect and trust just went out the window.
And it is quite obvious that Trump doesn't know the meaning of either.

And about them books they signed then exchanged....
Trump's to Kim: How To Cheat On Your Wife For $130,000.
Kim's to Trump: How to Make Your Enemy's Disappear In Five Easy Steps.
Oddly enough, Trump already had that book from Kim. Putin gave Trump the exact same copy.
You know how it is.... Someone gives you a present for some special occasion, and you pass it along to others as your gift to them. It's called gift recycling.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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This thread is a poop show.
Does it really matter what he does? I have a feeling that it doesn't as the same posters would still be bitchin about the same,,,
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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This thread is a poop show.
Does it really matter what he does? I have a feeling that it doesn't as the same posters would still be bitchin about the same,,,
In that spirit, this is totally unexpected from you, totally out of character, who could have seen that coming, totally not a thick brick in the very wall you are barking at, no sir.

Does it matter what he does?
Does it matter what he says?
Does it matter...

Fuck yea it matters.
 
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ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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So far here is what we know;

He said sanctions won't be removed.
He said we will cease military exercises.
He said there will be inspections, from many people, both US and others.
There is no current time table for anything as far as I can gather (he said NK will start the process immediately to get the remains of soldiers back).
Apparently there were lots of things discussed and agreed to that didn't make it in the document.
The difference between this signing and past administrations signing agreements is trump and that's why NK will follow through this time.
He couldn't set details and time tables because he didn't have enough time, despite saying this deal has been in the works for a while now.
He doesn't need to have verification on things because he FEELS Kim wants to make a deal.

When building himself up he made it a point to shit on other presidents.
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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This thread is a poop show.
Does it really matter what he does? I have a feeling that it doesn't as the same posters would still be bitchin about the same,,,
We get it. Trump shooting people wouldn't be a big deal for you.
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
23,535
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So far here is what we know;

He said sanctions won't be removed.
He said we will cease military exercises.
He said there will be inspections, from many people, both US and others.
There is no current time table for anything as far as I can gather (he said NK will start the process immediately to get the remains of soldiers back).
Apparently there were lots of things discussed and agreed to that didn't make it in the document.
The difference between this signing and past administrations signing agreements is trump and that's why NK will follow through this time.
He couldn't set details and time tables because he didn't have enough time, despite saying this deal has been in the works for a while now.
He doesn't need to have verification on things because he FEELS Kim wants to make a deal.

When building himself up he made it a point to shit on other presidents.

Trump Translator :
He said there will be inspections, from many people, both US and others.
He said there will be inspections, from many people, both US and allies.
He said there will be inspections, from many people, both US and ally.
He said there will be inspections, from many people, both US and Russia.
Russia will be doing the inspections. It makes too much sense to not have Russia be Russia, why are we having Russia without Russia at the inspections, We should have Russia, Russia will... I am Russia.
 

Ausm

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Trump Translator :
He said there will be inspections, from many people, both US and others.
He said there will be inspections, from many people, both US and allies.
He said there will be inspections, from many people, both US and ally.
He said there will be inspections, from many people, both US and Russia.
Russia will be doing the inspections. It makes too much sense to not have Russia be Russia, why are we having Russia without Russia at the inspections, We should have Russia, Russia will... I am Russia.

He is Russia's money launderer in Chief.
 
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dyna

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Oct 20, 2006
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Trump and Kim may act like petulant children but it seems they came to their senses on this one. A big victory for Korea and world peace.
 
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frowertr

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Apr 17, 2010
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Trump has now done more in 1.5 years than Obama did in 8. Man I’m excited for another term from my President.
 
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K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
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People should read the Stephanopouos interview. It's batshit.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/pre...e-stephanopoulos-transcript/story?id=55831055

a taste:

G: How do you trust him, though? Is he willing to change? Do you believe he’s changed?
T: Well, you know, over my lifetime I've done a lot of deals with a lot of people, and sometimes the people that you most distrust turn out to be the most honorable ones, and the people that you do trust they are not the honorable ones, so we are starting from a very high plane, we’re starting from a very good relationship. This has been a very big day in terms of the world. I think it’s been, maybe I -- a lot of people have been saying it’s historic.

G: We’re all calling it historic.
T: Yeah, even my enemies are calling it historic. And you know, the fact is that we’ve done something that’s very unique. Nobody’s met with the family, nobody at a high level--
G: -- no president has.
T: No president has, certainly. And we’ve done something that we’re very proud of. It’s a very strong document.
 

K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
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So far here is what we know;

He said sanctions won't be removed.
He said we will cease military exercises.
He said there will be inspections, from many people, both US and others.
There is no current time table for anything as far as I can gather (he said NK will start the process immediately to get the remains of soldiers back).
Apparently there were lots of things discussed and agreed to that didn't make it in the document.
The difference between this signing and past administrations signing agreements is trump and that's why NK will follow through this time.
He couldn't set details and time tables because he didn't have enough time, despite saying this deal has been in the works for a while now.
He doesn't need to have verification on things because he FEELS Kim wants to make a deal.

When building himself up he made it a point to shit on other presidents.

If Obama had done this the Republicans would have literally set the WH on fire.

NK got basically everything they were looking for. Economic pressure is coming off with no, written, firm commitments. No timetable or verification scheme. We're basically taking their word for it. Not it mention the enormous PR win Kim secured from Trump.

It appears he also didn't consult SK about canceling military exercises. $20 says he promised Kim a US pullout because he wants to do it anyway I would presume in exchange for limiting their ballistic capability to hit the US.

What the fuck is he going to present to the Senate to ratify? The answer is likely nothing at all.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Trump has now done more in 1.5 years than Obama did in 8. Man I’m excited for another term from my President.

Obama shutdown a nations nuclear weapons program, Trump cancelled the agreement. We have yet to see if NK does anything.
 

TheVrolok

Lifer
Dec 11, 2000
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This is just the first meeting, so I'll try to remain cautiously optimistic. However, I don't understand why we should be celebrating much of anything? A signing document that has essentially no weight. Does no one remember the Six Party Talks? Agreement to denuclearize, and then NKs first nuclear test the next year.

So we have a fairly meaningless joint statement between two people who have no track record of trustworthiness. As I said, I want to be cautiously optimistic because peace is the ultimate goal but... Like... Meh? "Fool me once.."
 
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K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
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Well if Trump isn't going to start a war that's pretty good. Dennis Rodman was certainly moved.

I'm not sure we have the kind of equipment required to locate the bar at this point. I think we'll have to leave it to future generations.
 

IJTSSG

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Aug 12, 2014
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You poor, poor TDS suffering bastards. I'm actually starting to feel sorry for you.
 
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