That’s exactly what Trump did.Omg. That is a "bunch" of something...
You have called a defeat before the negotiations are even started.
Throw up a white flag and go home.
Not sure why you’re trying to defend this blunder outside of partisanship.
Trump made a dumb decision and got played. Why can’t you just admit it?
Just because Trump gave up the saber rattling doesn't mean he got played. You go on like it's Chamberlain returning from Munich.
Every President since 1953 has been played by North Korea. Nothing new here at all. The game however isn't over yet for Trump, the USA or North Korea... Time will tell.
Every President since 1953 has been played by North Korea. Nothing new here at all. The game however isn't over yet for Trump, the USA or North Korea... Time will tell.
Yea nothing new here.
Top NK diplomat resigns before talks
Rex Tillerson fired just before talks
Rex Tillerson thrown under the bus and ridiculed on Twitter
Little Rocket man
I am very well prepared, I dont think I have to prepare very much.
(and the ton of stuff I forgot)
Trump got played - JUST LIKE ALL THE PRESIDENTS BEFORE HIM!
Aaaaaaaaalrighty then....
You got this pcgeek11, just double down again.. and then maybe one more time. And one more time. You got this.
About the same here... Hoped for it but alas, we sort of already knew. It is not taking the meeting in it self, it is watching Trump waddle through it that makes you facepalm before the fact! If he is out of his element in DC politics, then what element is he in when it comes to foreign politics? Foreign politics with NK? The fifth element?Three posts in or so I said "we'll see". We saw. Unfortunately, my expectations were met.
Please list these concessions that are so grave...
I'll tell you what he didn't do:
He didn't get north Korea to stop their nuclear weapons program.
He didn't get any sort of concrete timeline to achieve any particular goals.
He didn't any way to verify anything is being changed, including allowing foreign inspectors in to look at any suspicious sites and the complete supply chain.
He didn't get existing nuclear plants to lower their enrichment rate and reduce the number of centrifuges being used.
He didn't get them to agree to lower their stockpile of enriched uranium.
He didn't get them to agree to ship their spent fuel out of the country.
He didn't get them to agree to not build certain types of nuclear reactors.
He didn't get any kind of agreement with regards to sanctions, whether it be lifting them or increasing them when compliance isn't met.
He didn't get any other countries involved to utilize their economic power to enforce the deal.
Additional things the right complained about in previous deals that he didn't address or get an agreement on:
A reduction in arms and ballistic missiles and missile testing.
He didn't get any agreement that would remove Kim.
Is that the Iran deal? Spearheaded by that black dude? What was his name... hmm
I'll tell you what he didn't do:
He didn't get north Korea to stop their nuclear weapons program.
He didn't get any sort of concrete timeline to achieve any particular goals.
He didn't any way to verify anything is being changed, including allowing foreign inspectors in to look at any suspicious sites and the complete supply chain.
He didn't get existing nuclear plants to lower their enrichment rate and reduce the number of centrifuges being used.
He didn't get them to agree to lower their stockpile of enriched uranium.
He didn't get them to agree to ship their spent fuel out of the country.
He didn't get them to agree to not build certain types of nuclear reactors.
He didn't get any kind of agreement with regards to sanctions, whether it be lifting them or increasing them when compliance isn't met.
He didn't get any other countries involved to utilize their economic power to enforce the deal.
Additional things the right complained about in previous deals that he didn't address or get an agreement on:
A reduction in arms and ballistic missiles and missile testing.
He didn't get any agreement that would remove Kim.
Did you get one of them coins?Well, it was never about reaching a real agreement with North Korea and mending fences with South Korea. It was always about Trump and his moron supporters chasing after a Nobel Prize like mangy mutts chasing a turd filled garbage truck.
Hey, the "blah" guy got one, so we should get one too.....
Other than Trump treating the S Koreans badly I'm not really seeing much of a real downside. N Korea really isn't much of a threat except when there's a need to paint them that way. Talks are ongoing but I'd be surprised if much comes of them.
It's all theater of the absurd considering that Kim can't trust Trump anyway, certainly not considering the way Trump is treating the Iranians.
Are talks actually ongoing though?
This just seemed like another trump con. Get the photo op and press coverage and lie about the achievement and never talk about it again.
Not sure why you’re trying to defend this blunder outside of partisanship.
Trump made a dumb decision and got played. Why can’t you just admit it?
I'll tell you what he didn't do:
He didn't get north Korea to stop their nuclear weapons program.
He didn't get any sort of concrete timeline to achieve any particular goals.
He didn't any way to verify anything is being changed, including allowing foreign inspectors in to look at any suspicious sites and the complete supply chain.
He didn't get existing nuclear plants to lower their enrichment rate and reduce the number of centrifuges being used.
He didn't get them to agree to lower their stockpile of enriched uranium.
He didn't get them to agree to ship their spent fuel out of the country.
He didn't get them to agree to not build certain types of nuclear reactors.
He didn't get any kind of agreement with regards to sanctions, whether it be lifting them or increasing them when compliance isn't met.
He didn't get any other countries involved to utilize their economic power to enforce the deal.
Additional things the right complained about in previous deals that he didn't address or get an agreement on:
A reduction in arms and ballistic missiles and missile testing.
He didn't get any agreement that would remove Kim.
For for Christ sake. You are a moron. They have only had one short meeting.
What did your hero Obama do in North Korea?
Oh yeah, Nothing except allow them to continue creating nuclear weapons.
Did you get one of them coins?
And trump has continued that. Oh except he's now given Kim legitimacy and they no longer have "war games" going on in their area.
You want to know what else trump did? He backed out of the Iran nuclear deal which could allow Iran to restart their nuclear program.
But I don't hear you bitching about that part. Keep sucking that trump dick, traitor.
He has only been in office less than two years... Obama had eight years to do nothing.
The Iran deal was a crappy deal and we gave them billions of dollars for a few hostages.
Obama got played big time.
It was crappy because Obama, duh!What, specifically, was crappy about it? How did Obama get played, specifically?
I know lying is your thing but complaining about billions of iran's own money for a separate prisoner deal is still a lie no matter how many times you tell it.
Sunset Clause.
The JCPOA does not require Iran to submit to "anytime, anywhere" inspections of facilities and military sites. They can delay up to 24 days any inspection. Plenty of time to hide evidence.
U.N. sanctions and some E.U. sanctions have been lifted, enabling Iran to access $100 billion or more in previously frozen assets. Remaining EU sanctions will be lifted in less than 8 years.
The windfall of sanctions relief has freed up tens of billions of dollars to finance Tehran's many destabilizing activities. Iran increased its military budget 145% over the course of President Rouhani's first term.
Iran continues to take Americans and other Westerners hostage, detaining at least five Americans and six other Westerners since the nuclear deal was reached.
Iran has test-launched at least 16 ballistic missiles since the JCPOA was reached. U.N. Security Council Resolution 2231, which implemented the deal, aided Iran's ballistic-missile program by replacing previous resolution language that said Iran "shall not" engage in ballistic-missile activities with weaker language that merely "calls upon" Iran not to test any ballistic missiles "designed to be nuclear capable."
Former Saudi Intelligence Minister Turki al-Faisal warned in 2015: "I've always said whatever comes out of these talks, we will want the same. So if Iran has the ability to enrich uranium to whatever level, it's not just Saudi Arabia that's going to ask for that. The whole world will be an open door to go that route without any inhibition." Thus, the chance of destabilizing regional competition and conflict has increased.
Just for a few.
Sunset Clause.
The JCPOA does not require Iran to submit to "anytime, anywhere" inspections of facilities and military sites. They can delay up to 24 days any inspection. Plenty of time to hide evidence.
U.N. sanctions and some E.U. sanctions have been lifted, enabling Iran to access $100 billion or more in previously frozen assets. Remaining EU sanctions will be lifted in less than 8 years.
The windfall of sanctions relief has freed up tens of billions of dollars to finance Tehran's many destabilizing activities. Iran increased its military budget 145% over the course of President Rouhani's first term.
Iran continues to take Americans and other Westerners hostage, detaining at least five Americans and six other Westerners since the nuclear deal was reached.
Iran has test-launched at least 16 ballistic missiles since the JCPOA was reached. U.N. Security Council Resolution 2231, which implemented the deal, aided Iran's ballistic-missile program by replacing previous resolution language that said Iran "shall not" engage in ballistic-missile activities with weaker language that merely "calls upon" Iran not to test any ballistic missiles "designed to be nuclear capable."
Former Saudi Intelligence Minister Turki al-Faisal warned in 2015: "I've always said whatever comes out of these talks, we will want the same. So if Iran has the ability to enrich uranium to whatever level, it's not just Saudi Arabia that's going to ask for that. The whole world will be an open door to go that route without any inhibition." Thus, the chance of destabilizing regional competition and conflict has increased.
Just for a few.