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I'll be interested to see how big a hit he takes from Comey testifying next week. Rumor is there's a bombshell coming.

What in particular? All I've seen is that he's not expected to pull any punches and is going to pretty much say "Yeah, he totally is trying to obstruct an investigation and is acting guilty as shit".
 

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What in particular? All I've seen is that he's not expected to pull any punches and is going to pretty much say "Yeah, he totally is trying to obstruct an investigation and is acting guilty as shit".

No idea. It was a guy (Matthew Miller?) on MSNBC last night. He used to work in DoJ while Comey was there. He was the same guy who stated very early on that Comey always took detailed notes as contemporaneous memos to document meetings, and this was way before the memo leaked about the Comey/Trump meeting in the WH. He said something to the effect of there would be a new revelation in his testimony next week and it's going to be a bombshell.
 

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Well we've had some other news drop that Franken and another guy asked for investigations to Sessions.
 

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No idea. It was a guy (Matthew Miller?) on MSNBC last night. He used to work in DoJ while Comey was there. He was the same guy who stated very early on that Comey always took detailed notes as contemporaneous memos to document meetings, and this was way before the memo leaked about the Comey/Trump meeting in the WH. He said something to the effect of there would be a new revelation in his testimony next week and it's going to be a bombshell.

I personally think the former director of the FBI testifying under oath that the president tried to obstruct justice in the investigation of his national security adviser about his dealings with a hostile foreign power should be bombshell enough.

If that's what happens and Democrats take the House in 2018 I would draw up articles of impeachment on day 1 for that alone. Again, that's what Nixon did basically to a T.
 

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I personally think the former director of the FBI testifying under oath that the president tried to obstruct justice in the investigation of his national security adviser about his dealings with a hostile foreign power should be bombshell enough.

If that's what happens and Democrats take the House in 2018 I would draw up articles of impeachment on day 1 for that alone. Again, that's what Nixon did basically to a T.

Agree. Except I think the articles are already written. They're just being updated as needed. They'll be ready to go immediately as soon as enough Rs see the 2018 writing on the wall.

If I had to guess, it would be another instance of similar behavior that hasn't been leaked yet. One that's probably more apparent/forceful than what's already been reported.
 
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There's a wild card in play...

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-idUSKBN18T1WZ?il=0

Trump mulling on using executive privilege to block Comey. How this could ever be viewed as anything BUT obstruction...I have no idea. But this man has shown when offered two options, he habitually takes the worse one.
He would fail if ever challenged in court most likely given his ample public statements on the matter and directly related to Comey. This is another example where his big mouth and lack of self control will have already screwed him in advance.
 

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There's a wild card in play...

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-idUSKBN18T1WZ?il=0

Trump mulling on using executive privilege to block Comey. How this could ever be viewed as anything BUT obstruction...I have no idea. But this man has shown when offered two options, he habitually takes the worse one.

Since he fired Comey, his only enforcement of the executive privilege card would be to have the committee cancel the hearing entirely. Usually, executive privilege declarations also happen to involve witnesses that don't want to testify. Not so in this case. As long as the hearing happens, Comey will say everything he can legally.

Having said that, I don't think it's above Trump to force a cancellation. He's in a game of his own making where he must do one politically disastrous thing after another in order to prevent an even more disastrous event from occurring. In this case, the fallout from shutting down the hearing will be less than the fallout from Comey testifying. Bigly.
 

echo4747

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im satisfied with the Trump administration so far:



Private sector job growth rebounds to ‘rip-roaring’ pace in May, ADP says


Private-sector hiring surged in May, according to a report released Thursday.


Employers added a seasonally adjusted 253,000 during the month, payroll processor ADP said. Mark Zandi, chief economist for Moody’s Analytics, which helps produce the report, called job growth “rip-roaring.”


Small businesses added 83,000 jobs in May, medium-sized businesses added 113,000, and large firms hired 57,000 workers.


April’s job gains, originally reported as 177,000, were revised down to 174,000.


Underlying job growth is probably running at about 200,000 per month, Zandi said in a press conference Thursday. Since the job market is growing at a much slower pace — probably about 80,000 per month — the jobless rate will continue to fall, he said. A 4% rate is “dead ahead.”


Dow Jones Industrial Average Nabs Record Close Ahead of Jobs Report


Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) started the day trading in negative territory, but swung higher on big gains for UnitedHealth and Goldman Sachs stocks. At its session peak, the Dow came within 25 points of notching a new milestone, and ultimately settled at a record closing high. Likewise, the S&P 500 Index ( SPX ) and Nasdaq Composite (COMP) managed to put fresh record highs in the books.


Read more: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/dow-j...e-ahead-of-jobs-report-cm797672#ixzz4imqzG1aO
 

[DHT]Osiris

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im satisfied with the Trump administration so far:



Private sector job growth rebounds to ‘rip-roaring’ pace in May, ADP says


Private-sector hiring surged in May, according to a report released Thursday.


Employers added a seasonally adjusted 253,000 during the month, payroll processor ADP said. Mark Zandi, chief economist for Moody’s Analytics, which helps produce the report, called job growth “rip-roaring.”


Small businesses added 83,000 jobs in May, medium-sized businesses added 113,000, and large firms hired 57,000 workers.


April’s job gains, originally reported as 177,000, were revised down to 174,000.


Underlying job growth is probably running at about 200,000 per month, Zandi said in a press conference Thursday. Since the job market is growing at a much slower pace — probably about 80,000 per month — the jobless rate will continue to fall, he said. A 4% rate is “dead ahead.”


Dow Jones Industrial Average Nabs Record Close Ahead of Jobs Report


Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) started the day trading in negative territory, but swung higher on big gains for UnitedHealth and Goldman Sachs stocks. At its session peak, the Dow came within 25 points of notching a new milestone, and ultimately settled at a record closing high. Likewise, the S&P 500 Index ( SPX ) and Nasdaq Composite (COMP) managed to put fresh record highs in the books.


Read more: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/dow-j...e-ahead-of-jobs-report-cm797672#ixzz4imqzG1aO
Job growth and economic activity early in the first term of a pres has more to do than the previous administration than the current one. Check back when the numbers are in for Q2 2020 or so.
 
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im satisfied with the Trump administration so far:



Private sector job growth rebounds to ‘rip-roaring’ pace in May, ADP says


Private-sector hiring surged in May, according to a report released Thursday.


Employers added a seasonally adjusted 253,000 during the month, payroll processor ADP said. Mark Zandi, chief economist for Moody’s Analytics, which helps produce the report, called job growth “rip-roaring.”


Small businesses added 83,000 jobs in May, medium-sized businesses added 113,000, and large firms hired 57,000 workers.


April’s job gains, originally reported as 177,000, were revised down to 174,000.


Underlying job growth is probably running at about 200,000 per month, Zandi said in a press conference Thursday. Since the job market is growing at a much slower pace — probably about 80,000 per month — the jobless rate will continue to fall, he said. A 4% rate is “dead ahead.”


Dow Jones Industrial Average Nabs Record Close Ahead of Jobs Report


Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) started the day trading in negative territory, but swung higher on big gains for UnitedHealth and Goldman Sachs stocks. At its session peak, the Dow came within 25 points of notching a new milestone, and ultimately settled at a record closing high. Likewise, the S&P 500 Index ( SPX ) and Nasdaq Composite (COMP) managed to put fresh record highs in the books.


Read more: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/dow-j...e-ahead-of-jobs-report-cm797672#ixzz4imqzG1aO

Ah, so now we're back to using and trusting the same, historic employment metrics again? Funny how that works--nonsense for 8 years, perfectly reasonable the next 8 years, lies and slander and fake numbers throughout the following 8 years, perfectly reasonable only months after they were not to be trusted!
 
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Private sector job growth rebounds to ‘rip-roaring’ pace in May, ADP says


Private-sector hiring surged in May, according to a report released Thursday.


Employers added a seasonally adjusted 253,000 during the month, payroll processor ADP said. Mark Zandi, chief economist for Moody’s Analytics, which helps produce the report, called job growth “rip-roaring.”


Small businesses added 83,000 jobs in May, medium-sized businesses added 113,000, and large firms hired 57,000 workers.


April’s job gains, originally reported as 177,000, were revised down to 174,000.


Underlying job growth is probably running at about 200,000 per month, Zandi said in a press conference Thursday. Since the job market is growing at a much slower pace — probably about 80,000 per month — the jobless rate will continue to fall, he said. A 4% rate is “dead ahead.”


Dow Jones Industrial Average Nabs Record Close Ahead of Jobs Report


Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) started the day trading in negative territory, but swung higher on big gains for UnitedHealth and Goldman Sachs stocks. At its session peak, the Dow came within 25 points of notching a new milestone, and ultimately settled at a record closing high. Likewise, the S&P 500 Index ( SPX ) and Nasdaq Composite (COMP) managed to put fresh record highs in the books.


Read more: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/dow-j...e-ahead-of-jobs-report-cm797672#ixzz4imqzG1aO

You must have been very happy with Obama too
 

dainthomas

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im satisfied with the Trump administration so far:



Private sector job growth rebounds to ‘rip-roaring’ pace in May, ADP says


Private-sector hiring surged in May, according to a report released Thursday.


Employers added a seasonally adjusted 253,000 during the month, payroll processor ADP said. Mark Zandi, chief economist for Moody’s Analytics, which helps produce the report, called job growth “rip-roaring.”


Small businesses added 83,000 jobs in May, medium-sized businesses added 113,000, and large firms hired 57,000 workers.


April’s job gains, originally reported as 177,000, were revised down to 174,000.


Underlying job growth is probably running at about 200,000 per month, Zandi said in a press conference Thursday. Since the job market is growing at a much slower pace — probably about 80,000 per month — the jobless rate will continue to fall, he said. A 4% rate is “dead ahead.”


Dow Jones Industrial Average Nabs Record Close Ahead of Jobs Report


Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) started the day trading in negative territory, but swung higher on big gains for UnitedHealth and Goldman Sachs stocks. At its session peak, the Dow came within 25 points of notching a new milestone, and ultimately settled at a record closing high. Likewise, the S&P 500 Index ( SPX ) and Nasdaq Composite (COMP) managed to put fresh record highs in the books.


Read more: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/dow-j...e-ahead-of-jobs-report-cm797672#ixzz4imqzG1aO

1. Those are Obama's numbers. You can thank him any time.
2. If Trump is able to leave the economy better than he found it, he'll be the first Republican that I can remember doing that.
 

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Are you claiming that presidents are significantly responsible for stock market performance?
depends ... because what is significant to you may/may not be to me.. IMO the things Trump says i.e. reduce regulations, reduce corporate tax rates is very significant . to the recent fairly sharp rise in the markets since he was elected. Now if is tax plan doesn't come to fruition, I would expect the markets to fall just as fast... even faster than they rose.
 

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depends ... because what is significant to you may/may not be to me.. IMO the things Trump says i.e. reduce regulations, reduce corporate tax rates is very significant . to the recent fairly sharp rise in the markets since he was elected. Now if is tax plan doesn't come to fruition, I would expect the markets to fall just as fast... even faster than they rose.

Can you explain the rise in the S&P under Obama based on this theory?
 

shady28

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im satisfied with the Trump administration so far:



Private sector job growth rebounds to ‘rip-roaring’ pace in May, ADP says


Private-sector hiring surged in May, according to a report released Thursday.


Employers added a seasonally adjusted 253,000 during the month, payroll processor ADP said. Mark Zandi, chief economist for Moody’s Analytics, which helps produce the report, called job growth “rip-roaring.”


Small businesses added 83,000 jobs in May, medium-sized businesses added 113,000, and large firms hired 57,000 workers.


April’s job gains, originally reported as 177,000, were revised down to 174,000.


Underlying job growth is probably running at about 200,000 per month, Zandi said in a press conference Thursday. Since the job market is growing at a much slower pace — probably about 80,000 per month — the jobless rate will continue to fall, he said. A 4% rate is “dead ahead.”


Dow Jones Industrial Average Nabs Record Close Ahead of Jobs Report


Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) started the day trading in negative territory, but swung higher on big gains for UnitedHealth and Goldman Sachs stocks. At its session peak, the Dow came within 25 points of notching a new milestone, and ultimately settled at a record closing high. Likewise, the S&P 500 Index ( SPX ) and Nasdaq Composite (COMP) managed to put fresh record highs in the books.


Read more: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/dow-j...e-ahead-of-jobs-report-cm797672#ixzz4imqzG1aO


This might have something to do with it : $240,000,000,000 / yr in regulatory savings in the first 5 months:

January 2017:
Report: Trump halted $181 billion in regulatory costs on first day in office

April 2017:

Trump Rolls Back $60 Billion in Regulatory Savings



Here's what was going on before -

August 2016 :
Study: Obama issued $743B in regs

 

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echo4747

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Can you explain the rise in the S&P under Obama based on this theory?

I would attribute much of it to " market timing". IIRC when Obama took office. the market had already corrected. I happen to believe the market overreacted, as is often the case. There was a general fear of a depression which was dealt with by a large stimulus package,bailout ,whatever term you call it. This calmed fear and the markets liked this. After the midterms R's took back enough of congress and not a lot happened. Interest rates were/still are very low. and in order to get to get returns. money started flowing into the markets, thus ,for the most part the markets slowly rose. Now when Trump took office the market was already at a fair/to pretty hi level and has gone even higher. If Trumps ""tax plan" doesn't pass expect the market to overeact in the other direction. If it does pass.. and he could strike some type of deal to get some corporate $$ currently held out of the USA back. I feel the market will go even higher. assuming there isn't some unexpected catastrophic event (i.e. war with N Korea)
 
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