Trump Approval Rating Watch thread.

[Bitek]

Quinnipiac has a brutal new poll out.

It's not just overall approval, he's not trusted or to be seen headed in the right direction.

I do enjoy the rose colored glasses Republicans tho. If they consider Trump level headed, what do you have to be seen as intemperate? Holy shuttle.

"American voters say 68 - 29 percent that President Trump is not level-headed, his worst grade on that quality. Republicans say 64 - 32 percent he is level-headed. Voter opinions of most other Trump qualities are negative:

• 59 - 36 percent that he is not honest;
• 58 - 39 percent that he does not have good leadership skills;
• 58 - 40 percent that he does not care about average Americans;
• 62 - 35 percent that he is a strong person;
• 57 - 40 percent that he is intelligent;
• 64 - 33 percent that he does not share their values."

 

[Puffnstuff]

When I hear the name Trump this is what happens in my mind.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Seriously, never ends. Just think, we get to pay his medical bills for the rest of his life now also.

 

[vi edit]

Can you speculate how it gets higher?

What can he do that's going to change minds at this point?

I feel as though he's been so polarizing as to leave little room for middle ground. Polling I saw said ~50% strongly disagree with his handling of the job while only ~25% strongly agree with his handling of the job. That's a LOT of people who have made up their mind...

People are incredibly short on memory and fickle minded. If Trump so much as farts a happy tune he can swing a 5 point approval rating. If he would shut the fuck up and end the victim mentality in 3 months he'd be back in the 40's. If he get's his fat ass off the golf course and put some real effort into pounding out some policy that actualyl improves peoples lives (that don't have their net worth ending in 'aire) and there's a few more points. If he really wants to turn things around he'll get everyone to the table and tell the Freedom Caucus to eat a dick and lets write a health coverage plan that isn't a steaming pile of shit.

And that's not even getting anything remotely Russian related, climate change oriented, anti-LGBT, or tearing down policies and pillars that protect normal people.

His ceiling to go up is enormous. And all it takes is a few bones thrown the right way and he could erase the last 130 days of fuckery.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Well, you're correct. Trumps pride and arrogance get in the way.

 

[fskimospy]

People are incredibly short on memory and fickle minded. If Trump so much as farts a happy tune he can swing a 5 point approval rating. If he would shut the fuck up and end the victim mentality in 3 months he'd be back in the 40's. If he get's his fat ass off the golf course and put some real effort into pounding out some policy that actualyl improves peoples lives (that don't have their net worth ending in 'aire) and there's a few more points. If he really wants to turn things around he'll get everyone to the table and tell the Freedom Caucus to eat a dick and lets write a health coverage plan that isn't a steaming pile of shit.

And that's not even getting anything remotely Russian related, climate change oriented, anti-LGBT, or tearing down policies and pillars that protect normal people.

His ceiling to go up is enormous. And all it takes is a few bones thrown the right way and he could erase the last 130 days of fuckery.

I agree that if he shuts up and just acts relatively normal he will be back up in the 40s. I'm not sure if he's emotionally stable enough to do that, but if he is it would help.

As for getting everyone to the table I sincerely doubt that's possible. Congressional Republicans are far too radicalized to support any major policy proposals that would be acceptable to Democrats. The mere fact that they were acceptable to Democrats would probably doom them, regardless of the actual substance.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Seriously, never ends. Just think, we get to pay his medical bills for the rest of his life now also.

True plus we are responsible for forcing him to eat more ice cream with his dessert causing him to gain weight.

 

[K1052]

I agree that if he shuts up and just acts relatively normal he will be back up in the 40s. I'm not sure if he's emotionally stable enough to do that, but if he is it would help.

When in trouble his instinct has always been to double, triple, and quadruple down. The idea that he can/will/want to suddenly self moderate flies in the face of basically his entire life trajectory.

I mean it's technically a possibility but by no means would I say it's probable.

 

[edcoolio]

Can you speculate how it gets higher?

What can he do that's going to change minds at this point?

I feel as though he's been so polarizing as to leave little room for middle ground. Polling I saw said ~50% strongly disagree with his handling of the job while only ~25% strongly agree with his handling of the job. That's a LOT of people who have made up their mind...

Your point is well taken, but this has been said of many presidents at various points in their careers. My thoughts run along the Patriots during the super bowl: Lots of time left on the clock and you never know what will happen.

It is unfortunate that partisanship has taken over the fabric of the country and I suspect that if there was a President H. Clinton that was elected president, we would be seeing close to the same numbers due to a poll hit on perceived scandals.

Therefore, the only things that would bump this either significantly upwards or downwards at this point are:

War
Scandal
Financial disruption (positive or negative)
Radical discovery
Silent Coup

... there is also the good old fashioned, saw the light, " 'comin' home to Jesus", but I don't see that one happening.

 

[vi edit]

When in trouble his instinct has always been to double, triple, and quadruple down. The idea that he can/will/want to suddenly self moderate flies in the face of basically his entire life trajectory.

I mean it's technically a possibility but by no means would I say it's probable.

I never said I *THOUGHT* he could do that. But then again, we never thought we'd be worrying about Trump approval ratings in the first place.

 

[cytg111]

When in trouble his instinct has always been to double, triple, and quadruple down. The idea that he can/will/want to suddenly self moderate flies in the face of basically his entire life trajectory.

I mean it's technically a possibility but by no means would I say it's probable.

Just imagine all the futile attempts from staff and aides to get him away from twitter... yea I dont see him in a sudden uturn towards restraint either... he might do a crazy ivan but never a u turn.

 

[ivwshane]

Your point is well taken, but this has been said of many presidents at various points in their careers. My thoughts run along the Patriots during the super bowl: Lots of time left on the clock and you never know what will happen.

It is unfortunate that partisanship has taken over the fabric of the country and I suspect that if there was a President H. Clinton that was elected president, we would be seeing close to the same numbers due to a poll hit on perceived scandals.

Therefore, the only things that would bump this either significantly upwards or downwards at this point are:

War
Scandal
Financial disruption (positive or negative)
Radical discovery
Silent Coup

... there is also the good old fashioned, saw the light, " 'comin' home to Jesus", but I don't see that one happening.

I'd imagine a presidents ceiling is the highest rating they've received at any point in their career. As far as I know, trump has never been above 50%. Hillary, from what I remember, has been as high as up 60's.

So trump could go higher but it would still be low overall.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Average has dipped another ~1 point.

 

[zzyzxroad]

People are incredibly short on memory and fickle minded. If Trump so much as farts a happy tune he can swing a 5 point approval rating. If he would shut the fuck up and end the victim mentality in 3 months he'd be back in the 40's. If he get's his fat ass off the golf course and put some real effort into pounding out some policy that actualyl improves peoples lives (that don't have their net worth ending in 'aire) and there's a few more points. If he really wants to turn things around he'll get everyone to the table and tell the Freedom Caucus to eat a dick and lets write a health coverage plan that isn't a steaming pile of shit.

And that's not even getting anything remotely Russian related, climate change oriented, anti-LGBT, or tearing down policies and pillars that protect normal people.

His ceiling to go up is enormous. And all it takes is a few bones thrown the right way and he could erase the last 130 days of fuckery.

I think what he needs is a brain transplant. The batshit crazy one he has now is getting him into all this trouble. With a good healthy and sane brain I think he could crack 60% approval.

 

[cytg111]

I think what he needs is a brain transplant. The batshit crazy one he has now is getting him into all this trouble. With a good healthy and sane brain I think he could crack 60% approval.

Dude havent tweeted yet... did someone hide his phone?

 

[Younigue]

The only thing I was hopeful for today was not anything Comey might reveal. I was hopeful that Trump might incriminate himself via tweet. *Sigh* Oh well.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Dude havent tweeted yet... did someone hide his phone?

No I read they planned a full day of activity for him and his down time was spent with his lawyers, who are keeping him away from the TV.
I'm not kidding either.

 

[jackstar7]

Dude havent tweeted yet... did someone hide his phone?

My assumption is someone put it in airplane mode and didn't tell him.

 

[kage69]

It's a pity we don't have the ability to ditch horrible leaders, via a no-confidence vote for example, like in the UK.

 

[kage69]

My assumption is someone put it in airplane mode and didn't tell him.

I heard his legal defense team orchestrated a lot of drawn out meetings today with the intent to occupy the idiots mind enough to keep him away from twitter.

Seems it worked.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

It's a pity we don't have the ability to ditch horrible leaders, via a no-confidence vote for example, like in the UK.

A no confidence vote doesn't guarantee a change of leadership. It can lead from a monority government to a majority with no change in leadership.

 

[kage69]

A no confidence vote doesn't guarantee a change of leadership. It can lead from a monority government to a majority with no change in leadership.

I'm not looking for a guarantee, more like a last resort for dealing with the worst of the worst that gives the country a chance to deal with an illegitimate disaster. The 25th Amendment is hamstrung by Veeps being as loathsome and partisan as the PoTUS. Republicans don't believe in the office of the President anymore (see GWB) - they want a servant, not a leader, and the dumber they are the easier it is to advance agendas that rational, smart adults would hit the breaks on.

We need more options.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

I'm not looking for a guarantee, more like a last resort for dealing with the worst of the worst that gives the country a chance to deal with an illegitimate disaster. The 25th Amendment is hamstrung by Veeps being as loathsome and partisan as the PoTUS. We need more options.

We had four federal elections in fseven years in Canada. 2004, 2006, 2008 and 2011. The last, the result of a no confidence vote, resulted in a conservative majority after two monitory results.

I like the no confidence vote when it comes to things like budgets as it forces cooperation when there's a minority. But three elections in 5 years was a bit much.

 

[kage69]

We had four federal elections in fseven years in Canada. 2004, 2006, 2008 and 2011. The last, the result of a no confidence vote, resulted in a conservative majority after two monitory results.

I like the no confidence vote when it comes to things like budgets as it forces cooperation when there's a minority. But three elections in 5 years was a bit much.

How many of those votes were focused on a figure like Dump? And no you can't say Rob Ford. Actually, how you guys dealt with him after he was busted so many times is probably a great reason why we shouldn't do this cross border comparison. We are a lot less polite down here, I'm sure you've noticed.

My thoughts on this center less on giving one party an advantage over the other, and more on just getting mentally ill individuals away from the wheel. If that means a sane person from the same party, so be it. The GOP isn't all bad, just the vast majority of it.

 

[edcoolio]

I'd imagine a presidents ceiling is the highest rating they've received at any point in their career. As far as I know, trump has never been above 50%. Hillary, from what I remember, has been as high as up 60's.

So trump could go higher but it would still be low overall.

Possibly, but of course, a President will always poll differently than candidates.

Frankly, I (or anyone else) will never know, but wild speculation is always fun!