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K1052

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Trump's popularity is slipping in rural America: poll


In September, 47 percent of people in non-metro areas approved of Trump while 47 percent disapproved. That is down from Trump’s first four weeks in office, when 55 percent said they approved of the president while 39 percent disapproved.

The poll found that Trump has lost support in rural areas among men, whites and people who never went to college. He lost support with rural Republicans and rural voters who supported him on Election Day.

And while Trump still gets relatively high marks in the poll for his handling of the economy and national security, rural Americans are increasingly unhappy with Trump’s record on immigration, a central part of his presidential campaign.

Forty-seven percent of rural Americans said in September they approved of the president’s handling of immigration, down from 56 percent during his first month in office.

Poll respondents who were interviewed by Reuters gave different reasons for their dissatisfaction with the president on immigration.

A few said they are tired of waiting for Trump to make good on his promise to build a wall along America’s southern border, while others said they were uncomfortable with his administration’s efforts to restrict travel into the United States.

“There should be some sort of compromise between a free flow of people over the border and something that’s more controlled,” said Drew Carlson, 19, of Warrensburg, Missouri, who took the poll.

But Trump’s “constant fixation on deportation is a little bit unsettling to me.”


Rural Americans were increasingly unhappy with Trump’s handling of healthcare in March and April after he lobbied for a Republican plan to overhaul Obamacare and cut coverage for millions of Americans.

In May and June, they were more critical of Trump’s ability to carry out U.S. foreign policy, and they gave him lower marks for “the way he treats people like me.”

In August, they were increasingly unhappy with “the effort he’s making to unify the country” after he blamed “both sides” for the violence in Charlottesville, Virginia, in which a suspected white nationalist drove his car into a crowd of anti-racist demonstrators.




https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-slipping-in-rural-america-poll-idUSKBN1CE162
 

woolfe9998

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According to fivethirtyeight as of today, his average 37.5, 56.7 with a delta of 19.2. He's been going down this past week. I never can understand why he goes down a little one week and up a little the next. He does things which should tank his approvals virtually every day.

IMO the only thing that will bring him below mid to high 30's is if the economy goes south.
 

alien42

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According to fivethirtyeight as of today, his average 37.5, 56.7 with a delta of 19.2. He's been going down this past week. I never can understand why he goes down a little one week and up a little the next. He does things which should tank his approvals virtually every day.

the most recent "bump" over the past month was without a doubt caused by the hurricanes.
 

K1052

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the most recent "bump" over the past month was without a doubt caused by the hurricanes.

But now with Maria dragging him down. His "high marks" are really low marks from just about everybody on that one.
 

J.Wilkins

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According to fivethirtyeight as of today, his average 37.5, 56.7 with a delta of 19.2. He's been going down this past week. I never can understand why he goes down a little one week and up a little the next. He does things which should tank his approvals virtually every day.

IMO the only thing that will bring him below mid to high 30's is if the economy goes south.

People from a certain walk of life absolutely adore the man, that's why.

When there is a group of people who are adamantly supporting a political affiliation no matter what this happens as that group will inevitably be either under represented or over represented depending on the group asked.

They left their ability to think for themselves by the side of the road a long time ago.

This is NOT unique to the US but I do think it's more pronounced in the US.
 
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J.Wilkins

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But now with Maria dragging him down. His "high marks" are really low marks from just about everybody on that one.

I just wonder what you all will think when he's re-elected for a second term... "Can't happen" is just a recycling of a phrase about him being elected the first time around.

Things that used to surprise me about politics are now things that happen regularly.
 
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K1052

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I just wonder what you all will think when he's re-elected for a second term... "Can't happen" is just a recycling of a phrase about him being elected the first time around.

Things that used to surprise me about politics are now things that happen regularly.

Nothing is impossible but the metrics aren't great right now. The last person who came back from approvals this bad to win another term was Bill Clinton, who inarguably possessed better political skills.

He may not want a second term if the GOP splits and falls from power. Possibly facing a Democratic House and Senate isn't going to be happy fun times.
 

woolfe9998

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I just wonder what you all will think when he's re-elected for a second term... "Can't happen" is just a recycling of a phrase about him being elected the first time around.

Things that used to surprise me about politics are now things that happen regularly.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's re-elected. The main variable will be the state of the economy. I think if it remains strong in 2020, he has an excellent chance.
 

J.Wilkins

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I wouldn't be surprised if he's re-elected. The main variable will be the state of the economy. I think if it remains strong in 2020, he has an excellent chance.

I wouldn't be surprised if he tanks the economy, goes into a depression and Guam is obliterated and he's still re-elected.

That is IF he gets enough people deported...
 

Blackjack200

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According to fivethirtyeight as of today, his average 37.5, 56.7 with a delta of 19.2. He's been going down this past week. I never can understand why he goes down a little one week and up a little the next. He does things which should tank his approvals virtually every day.

IMO the only thing that will bring him below mid to high 30's is if the economy goes south.

We must live in different countries. In the country I live in, white supremacists recently forbade a conscientious protest by black athletes to the wild approval of their fans. His raving lunacy and unapologetic hatred are exactly what got him elected, there's no reason they would "tank" his approvals.

My guess is that if the economy actually does go south, it will strengthen Trump as the normal scapegoats - immigrants and minorities - suffer.
 

J.Wilkins

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We must live in different countries. In the country I live in, white supremacists recently forbade a conscientious protest by black athletes to the wild approval of their fans. His raving lunacy and unapologetic hatred are exactly what got him elected, there's no reason they would "tank" his approvals.

My guess is that if the economy actually does go south, it will strengthen Trump as the normal scapegoats - immigrants and minorities - suffer.

I'd say that you, much like Trump, is a raving lunatic with a one track mind and just like him you'd sacrifice anything, including lives, to get your way.

You and Trump are in the same camp.
 

woolfe9998

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We must live in different countries. In the country I live in, white supremacists recently forbade a conscientious protest by black athletes to the wild approval of their fans. His raving lunacy and unapologetic hatred are exactly what got him elected, there's no reason they would "tank" his approvals.

My guess is that if the economy actually does go south, it will strengthen Trump as the normal scapegoats - immigrants and minorities - suffer.

That's what I said. These things should tank his approvals but have not. So far as the economy goes, you're wrong. If it goes south, his approvals will move along with it. There is a segment of Trump voters who aren't wild about many of his behaviors, but for some reason they think his business experience qualifies him to improve the economy. If you look at how highly they rate him in various areas right now, the economy is the one where he does best.

Trump definitely has a "floor" for his approvals, but we haven't found it yet. One way to figure out where it might be is to look at the split between those who "strongly approve" versus those who merely "approve." The latter category will likely depart if we go into recession. Based on that, I'd say his true floor is around 30ish.
 

Blackjack200

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That's what I said. These things should tank his approvals but have not. So far as the economy goes, you're wrong. If it goes south, his approvals will move along with it. Trump definitely has a "floor" for his approvals, but we haven't found it yet. One way to figure out where it might be is to look at the split between those who "strongly approve" versus those who merely "approve." The latter category will likely depart if we go into recession. Based on that, I'd say his true floor is around 30ish.

Okay, so let's imagine that we start losing hundreds of thousands of jobs a month again. Trump is tweeting that it's all because the Democrats won't build his border wall, and Gina and Mexicans are killing jobs. You think his base will turn on him? Seriously?

Come on. It will be the fault of campus safe spaces, sanctuary cities, and kneeling NFLers. That's what identify politics is all about.
 

J.Wilkins

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i don't get it.

That's because you haven't been paying attention. He's fine with using violence for his cause just like the ones he opposes.

He cheers it on and roots for the use of violence because he honestly believes that that is the way to get things done.
 

Blackjack200

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That's because you haven't been paying attention. He's fine with using violence for his cause just like the ones he opposes.

He cheers it on and roots for the use of violence because he honestly believes that that is the way to get things done.

Typical liberal, whining about tactics when the underlying issue is his lack of concern for oppressed people. J.Wilkins is just fine with violence when its directed at Afghan villagers or someone that did something he didn't like.

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...-with-desertion.2418565/page-20#post-39111874
 

dainthomas

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J.Wilkins

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Typical liberal, whining about tactics when the underlying issue is his lack of concern for oppressed people. J.Wilkins is just fine with violence when its directed at Afghan villagers or someone that did something he didn't like.

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...-with-desertion.2418565/page-20#post-39111874

Yup, I'm a liberal and damn proud of it. (not of being a liberal, holding an idea isn't an accomplishment but actually putting my life on the line for liberal ideals.

I don't like people burning my car, threatening to rape my daughter and beating up store owners while stealing their things but hey, they were rioting so I should just shut up, right?

You are no better than the fascists you play pretend to oppose.

ITT Blaskjack200 has declared the US the enemy of the US and a war zone, examine your associates liberals, they may not be who you think they are.

Remember those guys you thought were not violent? Well... Here you have one of them that you can ask about this matter.

I'll go first.

What do you think about rioters burning cars and destroying other peoples property and then attacking people when they try to avoid having their cars and property destroyed? Remember that you have already spoken clearly on this so try not to be a fucking whinger or I'll just quote that post to show how dishonest you are.
 

Blackjack200

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I've already indulged you more than I should. This is the Trump Approval Rating Watch thread. If you want to make your own thread about your insane politics I'll be happy to clown you there.

Cheers mate.
 

J.Wilkins

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I've already indulged you more than I should. This is the Trump Approval Rating Watch thread. If you want to make your own thread about your insane politics I'll be happy to clown you there.

Cheers mate.

Go fuck yourself, fascist.

For those that missed his statement about destroying private property, threatening innocent people and beating up innocent people, he's fine with that as long as it's his boys doing it.
 

Indus

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I think there's a good chance he'll be re-elected because look at history.. we were stupid enough to elect bush twice.

So I think Ohio's gone for 2020, maybe wisconsin and michigan too.

The odd swing states that could swing it will be PA and FL and NC. Whoever gets those 3 states will be the president.
 

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The thing to remember is that he won by less than 100,000 votes over three states. If you want to talk razor thin margins...that's pretty fucking thin. We got 3 more years for Boomers to die off. They are croaking at a rate of 10,000 A DAY. That's just 10 days of votes.

The real battlefield to watch will be voter rolls and suppression. That's the ugly underbelly of real manipulation.
 
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woolfe9998

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Okay, so let's imagine that we start losing hundreds of thousands of jobs a month again. Trump is tweeting that it's all because the Democrats won't build his border wall, and Gina and Mexicans are killing jobs. You think his base will turn on him? Seriously?

Come on. It will be the fault of campus safe spaces, sanctuary cities, and kneeling NFLers. That's what identify politics is all about.

I think the problem here is in how we define "base." In my previous post, I said I think his approval floor is around 30ish, which is 30ish above zero. Meaning that I of course acknowledge that there is a large number of voters who will never depart from him. They'll always accept his dishonest attempts to blame others for problems caused by his presidency. That doesn't mean that everyone approving of him now is part of that hardcore base. I think you're just assuming that they all are while I am not.
 
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