Trump As A Negotiator

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alien42

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It's worth noting that groups like BLM are complaining about criminals and thugs being shot. That's the most first world of first world problems. There's such a lack of real problems that we complain when criminals are shot. America has some problems, but it's still one of the best countries to live in.

you were good up until that bullshit, which comes across as racist.

you are totally OK with Trump running a fraudulent "University" that destroyed many people's lives, but when some random black kid whose petty crimes are far less than Trump's is killed, that's OK.
 

dullard

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Record voter turnout in the primaries. That speaks for itself.
Does it speak for itself? Trump got a record number of GOP primary votes for him out of the dozen national GOP primaries. Trump also got a record number of GOP primary votes AGAINST him. Which of the two is important to winning?



Since 1972 (before that primaries weren't really much like they are now and weren't nationwide), which GOP candidates got the least GOP primary votes?
  • Nixon, Ford, Reagan 1st term, Reagan 2nd term, Bush Jr. 2nd term, Bush Sr. 1st term. These all got fewer than 9 million primary votes. All won the election.
Since 1972, which GOP candidates got the most GOP primary votes?
  • Bush Sr. 2nd try, Dole, Bush Jr. 1st term, McCain, Romney, and now Trump. These all got more than 9 million primary votes. All but Bush Jr's first term lost the election. And Bush Jr.'s first term was a squeaker.
Basically, if primary votes had any correlation to the winner of an election (it doesn't), it is the FEWER the primary votes the better.
 

Spungo

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you are totally OK with Trump running a fraudulent "University" that destroyed many people's lives, but when some random black kid whose petty crimes are far less than Trump's is killed, that's OK.
Petty crime? He robbed a store then attacked a police officer. Do that in any country in the world and see what happens. autopsy
 

alien42

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Petty crime? He robbed a store then attacked a police officer. Do that in any country in the world and see what happens. autopsy

you went from "criminals and thugs being shot" to "him"

the BLM "complains" about a lot of unarmed shootings, not just one, try again.

this is also America, not just "any country in the world"

if you actually believe that death is a suitable punishment for robbery or an unarmed attack (i'm really not even sure what specific example you are talking about) you are a disgrace to this great nation and humanity as a whole, not unlike Trump.
 
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Cr0nJ0b

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I've heard Trump say that he's the best negotiator in the world. He wrote a book about himself and how great he is at negotiating. Are you saying he's wrong? No way.
 

Perknose

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Hillary is an establishment conservative like GW Bush.

I feel the truthiness of your statement, but those pesky facts tell a completely different story. Which to go with, your claim or the facts? I'ma go with fivethirtyeight:

Hillary Clinton Was Liberal. Hillary Clinton Is Liberal.

We’ve gotten this raft of “Clinton is liberal” exposés as Clinton has revved up her 2016 campaign, speaking out in support of gay marriage, a pathway to citizenship for immigrants in the U.S. illegally, and criminal justice reform. But what many of these articles miss is that Clinton has always been, by most measures, pretty far to the left. When she’s shifted positions, it has been in concert with the entire Democratic Party.

[...]

Clinton was one of the most liberal members during her time in the Senate. According to an analysis of roll call votes by Voteview, Clinton’s record was more liberal than 70 percent of Democrats in her final term in the Senate. She was more liberal than 85 percent of all members. Her 2008 rival in the Democratic presidential primary, Barack Obama, was nearby with a record more liberal than 82 percent of all members — he was not more liberal than Clinton.

Clinton also has a history of very liberal public statements. Clinton rates as a “hard core liberal” per the OnTheIssues.org scale. She is as liberal as Elizabeth Warren and barely more moderate than Bernie Sanders. And while Obama is also a “hard core liberal,” Clinton again was rated as more liberal than Obama.
 

Spungo

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if you actually believe that death is a suitable punishment for robbery or an unarmed attack (i'm really not even sure what specific example you are talking about) you are a disgrace to this great nation and humanity as a whole, not unlike Trump.
At least we've established that you hate female police officers and hope this happens to them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-utc4IEQws

Do you hate women in general or just women who want to make America a safer place?
 
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