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It's the timing and recent events that make it so damaging. Fresh off the heels of the Alicia Machado 3 am Twitter rant with 4 weeks to go and big gaps opening with women voters has them panicked about the down ballot contests.

They are rightfully worried. Unless something unparalleled drops about Hillary he's done.

Edit. Dammit quoted wrong poster.
 

HamburgerBoy

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I still do not think this is the most outrageous thing revealed about Trump in this campaign cycle, assuming it was just a talk, not a confession. So it is puzzling to me that this, of all things, is the last straw that broke the GOPe's patience. Remember that they did not un-endorse or disassociate with him even while calling his words "textbook racist."

That makes me wonder if there is something else, something much worse than this "locker room banter," that has been leaked within the D.C. chattering class. With a solid proof and a witness, waiting to be printed.

It's the potential implication of sexual assault.
 

Starbuck1975

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Trump's appeared on the Howard Stern show a zillion times. Being a pussy hound has been a well known aspect of his personality for decades. This particular revelation probably had the blockbuster effect it had because (1) he was declining in the polls and showed no real signs of reversal, (2) Trump refused all reasonable advice and guidance, like how to prep for debates, where to focus his assets and efforts, etc (I mean why in the world was he holding rallies in solid red states he was going to win anyway) and (3) Trump was uncontrollable. The RNC and other GOP politicians saw a hopeless case that was just going to drag the rest of them down and they finally bailed.

I don't blame the RNC for not vetting presidential candidates, that's not their job-it's the job of primary voters and their primary opponents. Trump proved to be Mr. Teflon until a month before the finish line, now he's going to go into full crazy uncle mode. No way he will quit-not with his ego, and no way the GOP could sack him-people have already voted, the absentee ballots are already out to military personnel and others, and most states have laws prohibiting changes in the official ballots at this late stage. The RNC will put all their efforts into holding the Senate from here on out.
I really don't understand the uproar over this. Trump's been on Howard Stern numerous times over the years and there's ample audio of him making crude and sexist remarks. This is no surprise to anyone from NY and familiar with Stern's show, and I am surprised this didn't get more attention during the primaries. Who Trump is has been in plain sight all along. This feels like the a last ditch effort by the Republicans to smear him so badly that they can pressure him off the ticket. I don't think it is going to work.
 

DrDoug

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... I am surprised this didn't get more attention during the primaries.

I am surprised that the Republican Presidential candidates/RNC didn't do any real oppo research against Trump. The parties like to say that their primary processes vets their candidates but it's clear that argument is dead in its tracks with Trump.

Meanwhile, here in Oregon:

Out of nearly 70 Oregonians running as Republicans for state and federal office, only two of them — both of whom would be stationed in Salem if they win in November — has publicly commented on vulgar language against women that has party members jumping off the Trump train left and right.

That's not surprising... the weather is getting cooler here in Oregon and it's well known that reptiles slow down when that happens. Give them some time...
 

Ichinisan

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I still do not think this is the most outrageous thing revealed about Trump in this campaign cycle, assuming it was just a talk, not a confession. So it is puzzling to me that this, of all things, is the last straw that broke the GOPe's patience. Remember that they did not un-endorse or disassociate with him even while calling his words "textbook racist."

That makes me wonder if there is something else, something much worse than this "locker room banter," that has been leaked within the D.C. chattering class. With a solid proof and a witness, waiting to be printed.
What is this manufactured reality? Trump divided and destroyed the party since he first started to become the party's front runner.
 

DrDoug

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What Trump said back then is ok...he was a Democrat then...and it's Bill Clinton's fault!

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/komo...hair-blames-Democrats-for-Trump-s-9956439.php


Trump completely screwed himself with blowing off the religion issue and having said that he's never asked for God's forgiveness because he's never done anything that needed forgiving. If he had 'truly embraced religion' (read: for political convenience, like your average conservative politician), he could have said that this was his old, Democratic sinning self and how he's a a new man, a God-fearing Republican! The God-bothering wingnuts would have had a collective orgasm and given him a standing ovation afterward.

Of course, according to Christians, you can ask God for immediate forgiveness, play contrite and stay in office. Oh yeah, he's not in office yet so forget that!
 

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lewd comments are easier to understand then the endless scandals and Charity Fraud / Foundation Fraud.. sexual misconduct..Loral Space and Communications Technology transfer..

and more easier for liberals to comprehend.

all that wall street blah blah foundation blah blah rose law firm blah blah mail server blah blah travel office blah blah

who can possibly make sense of that stuff

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The best part about this post is that you don't realize how absolutely hilarious and yet tragic it is that you believe this enough to post it in public.

Like, if you posted this in an attempt to make fun of a delusional conservative, people would laugh with you. Instead, you post it seriously, making anyone who has any semblance of reality laugh at you, while quietly wondering what happened to you in the past to make you so damaged.

But, it doesn't matter anyway. Anyone who publicly states that low gas prices during a near-depression aka the end of Bush Jr.s term is a good thing has pretty clearly identifed him or herself as a lunatic out of touch with reality. So, keep on keepin' on with that, because why not.
 

Skyclad1uhm1

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I am surprised that the Republican Presidential candidates/RNC didn't do any real oppo research against Trump. The parties like to say that their primary processes vets their candidates but it's clear that argument is dead in its tracks with Trump.

He won the primaries by a big margin, and a lot of his followers still stick by him even after all this. He would most likely have still won, but with a smaller margin. And then they would not have anything to try get rid of him anymore after the primaries.

What surprises me is why they didn't try using this after the last opponent dropped out to be able to pick a different candidate still at the convention. That would have been the tactical thing to do: Wait for the last one to throw in the towel, kill Trumps chances, and pick whoever you want at the convention. the Trump fans wouldn't switch to Hillary anyway, so the worst thing that could happen for the GOP would be none of them voting on their candidate or even Trump going independent and the votes being split. Either of those would most likely cause Hillary to win. But then, so is the current situation, and if they would have presented a candidate that was halfway likable to the undecided and could get part of the votes of the Trump supporters they might have been able to beat Hillary.

But GOP, like most politicians, are not very good at tactical thinking.
 

agent00f

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Is there any evidence that he has actually lost evangelical votes yet? Right now it seems he stands to lose yugest with fair-weather independents. Of course, without those votes he's still totally dead, but I bet his base stands steady for the most part. Have to keep in mind that many evangelical types are also "born again", they have their own dirty laundry that they must consciously put aside, so it's easy to trick those types into thinking "Aww, a true flawed man that's trying to do better for the world".

EDIT: Link to the video

https://twitter.com/ofccadjust/status/784852624906518530/video/1

These are people used to believing what they're told to believe. They don't actually have much principles or integrity despite all claims to the contrary.


Put me in that club too. I don't have the power to molest or rape women and get away with it though. I know for certain that Clinton did in fact get away with it.

It rather makes sense why the machismo trump crowd can't figure out why women like Bill and not them.
 

nickqt

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He won the primaries by a big margin, and a lot of his followers still stick by him even after all this. He would most likely have still won, but with a smaller margin. And then they would not have anything to try get rid of him anymore after the primaries.

What surprises me is why they didn't try using this after the last opponent dropped out to be able to pick a different candidate still at the convention. That would have been the tactical thing to do: Wait for the last one to throw in the towel, kill Trumps chances, and pick whoever you want at the convention. the Trump fans wouldn't switch to Hillary anyway, so the worst thing that could happen for the GOP would be none of them voting on their candidate or even Trump going independent and the votes being split. Either of those would most likely cause Hillary to win. But then, so is the current situation, and if they would have presented a candidate that was halfway likable to the undecided and could get part of the votes of the Trump supporters they might have been able to beat Hillary.

But GOP, like most politicians, are not very good at tactical thinking.
Republicans hate being losers, and anyone who can win, or can convince the base that they can win, will be tolerated accordingly.

Strongman Trump portrayed his opponents as losers and easily won the Republican primary...because Republicans went and voted for Strongman Trump (although Republicans who sense an upcoming loss are going to try to blame libruuuuuuuuuuuuls for the Republican base voting for Strongman Trump...because, again, Republicans hate being losers).

It's not more complicated than that. Republicans are reactionaries, i.e. they are against whatever libruuuuuuuuuuuuuls are for.
 

agent00f

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I still do not think this is the most outrageous thing revealed about Trump in this campaign cycle, assuming it was just a talk, not a confession. So it is puzzling to me that this, of all things, is the last straw that broke the GOPe's patience. Remember that they did not un-endorse or disassociate with him even while calling his words "textbook racist."

That makes me wonder if there is something else, something much worse than this "locker room banter," that has been leaked within the D.C. chattering class. With a solid proof and a witness, waiting to be printed.
I really don't understand the uproar over this. Trump's been on Howard Stern numerous times over the years and there's ample audio of him making crude and sexist remarks. This is no surprise to anyone from NY and familiar with Stern's show, and I am surprised this didn't get more attention during the primaries. Who Trump is has been in plain sight all along. This feels like the a last ditch effort by the Republicans to smear him so badly that they can pressure him off the ticket. I don't think it is going to work.

I think to really understand this issue requires some delving into the female psyche. Specifically the perceived difference between men viewing women as passive sex objects, and acting upon those impulses particularly whenever they want. To some degree while the former might be considered creepy and disgusting, the latter is beyond the pale. People who don't share in this psyche can certainly dismiss it as "just (locker room) talk", but the way it was said was clearly not just talk but speaking from experience.

Republicans hate being losers, and anyone who can win, or can convince the base that they can win, will be tolerated accordingly.

Strongman Trump portrayed his opponents as losers and easily won the Republican primary...because Republicans went and voted for Strongman Trump (although Republicans who sense an upcoming loss are going to try to blame libruuuuuuuuuuuuls for the Republican base voting for Strongman Trump...because, again, Republicans hate being losers).

It's not more complicated than that. Republicans are reactionaries, i.e. they are against whatever libruuuuuuuuuuuuuls are for.

I think what conservatives stand for is pretty well defined: the past. Or more specifically a past where the women & minorities knew their place. It's more that they define "liberals" as anything opposed to this, the change to that former status quo represented by modernity. That's why they're hardly phased by trump (which is what they want to be) acting in complete defiance of those social changes.
 
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You guys are hilarious. I really don't give two sh@ts about politics. I find it funny that a forum with a good amount of atheists are now in an uproar about some locker room humor from a guy 11 years ago. Pretty ridiculous.
 

agent00f

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You guys are hilarious. I really don't give two sh@ts about politics. I find it funny that a forum with a good amount of atheists are now in an uproar about some locker room humor from a guy 11 years ago. Pretty ridiculous.

Would you say your teachers thought understanding things was your strong suit?
 

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Off with all you faux moral high grounders, off with ye to your 50 shades books. lol
 

sportage

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Well WAY BACK in this thread my first prediction has come true.
Paul Ryan did in fact canceled his dual Trump appearance.
Now...
I truly expect Donald Trump a NO SHOW for the Sunday night debate.
I just wonder the excuse?

We know Trump all too well by now.
His ego is taking a real beating and that never sets well with Donald.
This is one time I expect Donald to simply disappear and wait to see if the smoke clears.
Of if Kelly and Rudy can let enough stinkers to overpower the turd Trump dumped.

PS...
Who wants to start the thread:
THE DONALD TRUMP CAMPAIGN DEATH WATCH
 

Meghan54

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You guys are hilarious. I really don't give two sh@ts about politics. I find it funny that a forum with a good amount of atheists are now in an uproar about some locker room humor from a guy 11 years ago. Pretty ridiculous.

And despite your claims to not giving a crap about politics, you managed to enter a thread concerning said subject you don't care about and even posted in a thread about a subject you said you don't care about. Hmmmmm...
 

DrDoug

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And despite your claims to not giving a crap about politics, you managed to enter a thread concerning said subject you don't care about and even posted in a thread about a subject you said you don't care about. Hmmmmm...

It's amazing how people who don't give a shit about something give a shit about telling you that they don't give a shit. It's almost as if they really give a shit! I also like how they completely miss the point that someone that was newly married saying that they tried to get another married woman in the sack with them. That on top of saying that they can just grab women by the pussy and the women like it because he's rich and famous. Sure, all of the locker rooms I've been in have had guys saying that... not. That isn't locker room talk and any idiot that thinks it was has a serious problem with how they view women. I've said plenty of stupid shit in my youth but that isn't something that I've ever said or have ever heard someone say

Trump was older than I am now when he said that and I left the 'locker room' behind decades ago.
 
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brycejones

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Off with all you faux moral high grounders, off with ye to your 50 shades books. lol

This 50 shades thing is really freaking retarded. People aren't outraged at the words he used, but the ACTIONS described by those words that he bragged about taking.
 

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Obviously he should have never said such things. They're offensive to women and makes him look bad. That doesn't mean that a lot of men haven't said the same or worse. I would wager that most men have mad very crude comments about women, but of course won't admit to it here. Making them hypocrites.

One side trying to slam the other over something that they're guilty of too is also pretty funny. Because Bill and Hillary haven't done and said bad things to women before? Raping, sexually assaulting, publicly humiliating them. But they're the good guys? People like them are why some women don't report rape or sexual assault. Its amazing how the left is ok with their behavior, while ragging on what Trump said, while Bill actually did it.

Off with all you faux moral high grounders, off with ye to your 50 shades books. lol

Yeah... 100 million copies sold of the book about men treating woman badly and using them for sex. Who buys most of these... ? Women. Its ok if in a book or movie, people eat it up, say it for real and its a problem. More hypocritical viewpoints.
 
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