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Moonbeam

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Honestly, I've said this before that I find the ignore list a last resort. I do not try to silence people, even when I disagree with their opinions.
What possible egotism tells you that you are qualified to judge when something is a last resort. Someone too weak to carry a bag of cement will use a wheelbarrow as a last resort. What is a last resort for you may be to a person of wisdom a nonexistent obstacle.
The "I'm smarter than you" attitude is just grating.
All this statement means is that in your opinion you project an attitude that because you feel inferior it is me who is trying to make you feel that way. That's not stupid. You were made to feel inferior and any awakening to the fact that you feel that way coming from what I say to you just reminds you of that inferior feeling. I don't see you that way at all. Naturally though, if you feel stupid you will act that way if you lack self awareness.

It's why, when I sometimes respond to Moonbeam, that I say I am making a statement and I'm not going to go back and forth with him/her/it. When he/she/it's attitude is closed off and set in concrete, there's no way to change it.
What you call statements are opinions. You just don't like them challenged. You are like conservatives in this respect. That's my opinion.
And it's why I have just glazed over his/her/its posts most of the time. There's practically zero value in most of the posts. His/her/its psychobabble is just fluff,
It couldn't be that you can't stand up and present rational reasons for the truth of these opinions.... Again, you imagine that your opinions are factual reality. That's just arrogance from which when questioned about you run.
and when you pull the same psychoanalysis of him/her/it, as I did one time, he/she/they get in a hissy fit.
The only place that happened was in your mind. You are blind. Why would that make me angry? I want to help you see. Unfortunately for you, the way that I do that is to tell you the truth, the truth that I see. What you see in me is a threat to the wall you hide behind. You can lead a horse to water.........
 

you2

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You are full of opinions. What you don't do is question them. You feel repulsed by something and you call it repugnant. It seems not to occur to you to question the truth of your opinions because that is all your feelings represent, reactions to external actions that trigger outrage in you. You never ask, is feeling repulsed by things rational behavior or is it my gag reflex conditioned in childhood to find certain behaviors offensive. Were they really offensive or were you just forced to believe they were because to stand against that idea would have gotten you in deep shit. Not to have self understanding makes you a robot. Your ego finds that fact offensive. So you are stuck in a rut. You are resigned to being that way. I tell you what I see so those willing to face themself can have a heads up. I know what you will see if you look. I looked. I know what it took to see so I am perfectly aware of why you don't want to go there.
Interesting - hey did you know Vance is a slimy repugnant asshole? Well of course you did so what is the point of your post ?
 

eelw

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You are full of opinions. What you don't do is question them. You feel repulsed by something and you call it repugnant. It seems not to occur to you to question the truth of your opinions because that is all your feelings represent, reactions to external actions that trigger outrage in you. You never ask, is feeling repulsed by things rational behavior or is it my gag reflex conditioned in childhood to find certain behaviors offensive. Were they really offensive or were you just forced to believe they were because to stand against that idea would have gotten you in deep shit. Not to have self understanding makes you a robot. Your ego finds that fact offensive. So you are stuck in a rut. You are resigned to being that way. I tell you what I see so those willing to face themself can have a heads up. I know what you will see if you look. I looked. I know what it took to see so I am perfectly aware of why you don't want to go there.
Sure there are scenarios where a past jaded experience that may cloud one’s opinion. But lol at the example I gave that some childhood repressed memory can’t allow me to judge that Vance is a repugnant asshole?

And what makes you to be the only enlightened one on this entire forum?
 

Moonbeam

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Heh, I think it hurts Moonie's feelings that I have him on ignore. Guess he should learn to have something of value to say, rather than just spew out the same old "I hate myself and so do you" spread out over multiple paragraphs and veiled in pseudo-intellectual mysticism.
But it seems to explain why you want to ignore what I say. Why would a person whose unconscious self hate has been successfully locked away and has attained various attributes of the culturally denominated aspects of substitute self respect want to rock the boat when so far in life all you have faced is calm water?

Have you heard the expression, rude awakening? Why would waking up be experienced like that?
 

Moonbeam

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Interesting - hey did you know Vance is a slimy repugnant asshole? Well of course you did so what is the point of your post ?
People who have been made to feel repugnant because their guardians failed to draw their up to the light by example but instead tried beating the darkness out of them will repress those behaviors rather than growing out of them. Once they are repressed, however, they will leak out.

What I see in Vance is very little. I have no interest in giving him my attention. I don’t enjoy reveling in disgust at another person’s depravity. I know what happened to him, that he is sick for reasons, and that he acts in ways you define as depraved because he was made to feel that way.

The mentally ill can appear as disgusting because because our culture revels in dishing out guilt and shame.
 

Moonbeam

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Vision sets the truth? I have bad news for you. My vision differs from yours and since both cannot be true simultaneously, my vision trumps yours. That is the truth.
Why would you call this bad news. This is wonderful news. Just one small matter is missing. You failed to include what your vision is and defend it as I have. All you offered is just vapid claims.
 

Moonbeam

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For those who actually want knowledge and not some dogshit this is a decent read:
Can you understand that the truth about Vance can be seen without the feeling of disgust and a need to dump on him? He is not a person of the caliber who should be VP. The votes he gets will be from like calling to like. Such people were created by being victims of disgust. The less effort to humiliate people the more sanity in elections.
 

you2

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Can you understand that the truth about Vance can be seen without the feeling of disgust and a need to dump on him? He is not a person of the caliber who should be VP. The votes he gets will be from like calling to like. Such people were created by being victims of disgust. The less effort to humiliate people the more sanity in elections.
We can feel disgust that a person like this is a member of congress. That is disgusting. You might argue there are even worse people in congress but i was always told two wrongs make it more disgusting not a right.
 

Moonbeam

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We can feel disgust that a person like this is a member of congress. That is disgusting. You might argue there are even worse people in congress but i was always told two wrongs make it more disgusting not a right.
Of course you can feel anything you like. I am perfectly aware of what disgust feels like. I am not arguing there may be worse members in Congress. There very well may be but that's not my point. I am suggesting that the feeling of disgust is the result of an evolutionary phenomenon that makes us puke up rotten food and avoid it in the future. I am saying that we were made to feel we are that rotten food as children when we exibited perfectly normal behaviors for children to manifest, that we learned what disgusting feels like by such experiences and that to heal from that sort of useless self hate we need to let go of such judgments since we are unconsciously feeling them about ourselves.

I am not saying I am superior to you in that I don't feel repulsed by some things. I am saying I see that behavior in me and others as a reaction we would not experience were we self aware of how we acquired contempt. I am not saying I am fully aware. I am saying I see when I feel such things I know they are the result of being asleep. I do not want to feed the ego structure that self justifies being that way. I see this as a necessary realization for those who aim for self understanding. Doubtless it's not for everybody but what chance does anybody have without some kind of challenge to the notion we are not actually asleep. Good luck to you.
 

VRAMdemon

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“You know, I do the weave. You know the weave? I weave stories together. Friends of mine that are, like, English professors, they say it’s the most brilliant thing I’ve ever seen”


"Friends of mine that are English professors"??? ... Lol!

Translation: - "I lack the discipline to make a direct statement because I get caught up in the instant gratification of bragging and whining."
 
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Perknose

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Stokely

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LOL yeah buddy another name for The Weave is "pulling absolute bullshit out of your ass". I'll give him credit, he'll say anything and not even bother to hide the fact that he's making it up. Usually with a "They say" feeble attempt to avoid getting called on it.
 

VRAMdemon

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Trump: - “The transgender thing is an incredible thing… your kid goes to school & comes home a few days later with an operation the school decides what’s going to happen with your child & you many of these childs 15 years later say “what the hell happened who did this to me?”


Wtf!! ... It just boggles my mind that this election is going to be close!

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And you may find yourself in another part of the world
And you may find yourself behind the wheel of a large automobile
And you may find yourself in a beautiful house, with a beautiful wife
And you may ask yourself, ‘Well, how did I get here?’” 🎵
 

you2

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Wtf!! ... It just boggles my mind that this election is going to be close!
Sez something about the quality of education in the USA; though more serious con-men like Trump seem to be winning a lot of elections world wide. Guess this is why people are so easily fool by 'fake news' world wide. I never understood how that crap could be so effective but then i see some of the things the uneducated say and support.

As an example someone believed this building that blew up was housing election machines from another state that had flipped the vote for biden and it was blown up with missiles to hide the evidence [the only part that was true was a building blew up - actually from a car bomb; the rest was conspiracy theory crap on some right wing news feed.]; Sort of like first the voting machines were rigged for biden then the italian beamed some virus into them then it was the isralie (what where the other claims they made - oh and of course Russia would never muck with USA elections). Man these clueless fuck need to get a clue first then maybe the vote wouldn't be so close.
 

VRAMdemon

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“Kamala Harris. Do you ever notice nobody knows what her last name is?”


I'm still trying to figure out what’s up with the “no one knows her last name” schtick

My guess is that it’s along the same line as the “she became black” line of attack. Like, “she has a weird ethnic name, but she’s hiding the fact that she has a perfectly white-bread last name, so she’s faking being ethnic for votes?

Or ... it is similar to him calling Nikki Haley “Nimarata”. He wants something he can use to make Kamala "The Other" by scaring people with an exotic last name. Her mother’s maiden name is Gopalan but since she got married before Kamala was born, Kamala’s last name has always been Harris. Someone should clue Trump in that he already has all the racists in the bag for votes and they already decided they aren’t going to vote for her, there’s no need to oversell it. But with Trump you never know. He probably saw the episode of Chappelle’s Show with the blind KKK guy (who turned out to be black) and thought it was a documentary. So as far as he’s concerned, he’s just making sure his crucial demographic of visually impaired racists knows what they are getting into.
 

hal2kilo

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“You know, I do the weave. You know the weave? I weave stories together. Friends of mine that are, like, English professors, they say it’s the most brilliant thing I’ve ever seen”


"Friends of my that are English professors"??? ... Lol!

Translation: - "I lack the discipline to make a direct statement because I get caught up in the instant gratification of bragging and whining."
You're not making a blanket, you making a salad.
 

pmv

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“You know, I do the weave. You know the weave? I weave stories together. Friends of mine that are, like, English professors, they say it’s the most brilliant thing I’ve ever seen”


"Friends of mine that are English professors"??? ... Lol!

Translation: - "I lack the discipline to make a direct statement because I get caught up in the instant gratification of bragging and whining."


Goddam the guy is full of himself/delusional/narcissistic/insufferable (find myself wanting to say all of those at once).

“Kamala Harris. Do you ever notice nobody knows what her last name is?”


He's somehow simultaneously a racist and an idiot.
 

you2

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Goddam the guy is full of himself/delusional/narcissistic/insufferable (find myself wanting to say all of those at once).



He's somehow simultaneously a racist and an idiot.
Well he is into marketing; so he thinks the name makes the person. In his world Trump Trump's Harris. Of course it is not relevant (to him) that he is a racist idiot. Those aspects just don't matter as long as the name is catchy.

Anyway remember the guy is fighting to stay out of prison so he is pretty desperate.
 
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