I'd put it a little differently... if we're fortunate.If we're lucky.
OT: When this is all said in down, there is going to be some really fascinating research. The ships provide very interesting closed population studies. The good thing about large number of asymptomatic people is that the really case fatality rate is likely way under the numbers we are seeing. The bad thing is, it'll spread easier because people won't take precautions.The aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt has given us a unique opportunity to evaluate how many asymptomatic carriers one would find since the infection is running rampant on board, the ship's isolated completely, and almost 95% of the crew has been tested.
~60% of the crew is infected yet show no symptoms. So it's not an estimate.....it's fact and based on a rather unique situation where we have a completely isolated population that's got the infection running through it.
Coronavirus clue? Most cases aboard U.S. aircraft carrier are symptom-free
Sweeping testing of the entire crew of the coronavirus-stricken U.S. aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt may have revealed a clue about the pandemic: The majority of the positive cases so far are among sailors who are asymptomatic, officials say.www.reuters.com
Again, you need to spend some time reading instead of pontificating about shit you know little to nothing about.
Maybe they should vote for democrats so their kids have a shot of a decent education and they have a shot of better wages.Knowledge workers have the option to work from home, but the working class need to physically report to work. There is a growing resentment against those who are able to work from home while they post on Instagram the Great Depression bread recipe they saw Jimmy Fallon making with some other celebrity over Zoom. These are the people currently protesting quarantines.
Amazing what lack of leadership looks like. Especially when the "leaders" right now specifically run on the idea that the government can't lead, can't innovate and is basically a burden to the people.I don't understand the lack of a determined strategy both in the US and here in UK (OK, in the US it's a bit easier to understand - The response is hampered by the fact that the guy at the top is an idiot). The lockdowns are obviously costing an enormous sum in lost economic activity, but surely that should motivate those in charge to move heaven-and-earth to spend whatever resources are needed to ensure a huge increase in testing (both for the virus itself, i.e. infections, and for antibodies, i.e. possible immunity), including the cost of developing tests that are as reliable as possible. Also spending whatever is needed to provide appropirate levels of PPE for all who could benefit from it. Even spending on research to find the best strategy, if that is necessary.
The fact that the lock-down is so hugely costly ought to make the cost of finding an alternative approach seem negligible in comparison, yet there seems no determination to throw everything they can at that. It ought to be treated as seriously as WW2. Instead it's either 'continue the lock down' or 'open up everything now, without having any plan for an alternative approach'.
Unfortunately the people who wrote the constitution made a mistake that basically guaranteed we can only have two competitive parties at any one time. Until we change the way we elect people we are stuck with them.I rarely participate in such matters as everyone is easily offended or whatever but i can only hope from the ashes of this khaos that just perhaps a new party arises. Why is it always Rep vs Dem? I vote for neither cause well i got views that are applied by both parties, yet i have my own ideas that honestly beg for their own party. Not going into detail about that as someone as always will be offended but lets say this could be a way better country.
I will hint, the idea of a Roman sorta empire will great today. A gov for the people by the people. None of this non sense bullshit fighting, all the puppet master pulling their strings to distract everyone.
sometimesDon't you wish you had half the wit and edge of a potato?
The aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt has given us a unique opportunity to evaluate how many asymptomatic carriers one would find since the infection is running rampant on board, the ship's isolated completely, and almost 95% of the crew has been tested.
~60% of the crew is infected yet show no symptoms. So it's not an estimate.....it's fact and based on a rather unique situation where we have a completely isolated population that's got the infection running through it.
Coronavirus clue? Most cases aboard U.S. aircraft carrier are symptom-free
Sweeping testing of the entire crew of the coronavirus-stricken U.S. aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt may have revealed a clue about the pandemic: The majority of the positive cases so far are among sailors who are asymptomatic, officials say.www.reuters.com
Again, you need to spend some time reading instead of pontificating about shit you know little to nothing about.
Unfortunately the people who wrote the constitution made a mistake that basically guaranteed we can only have two competitive parties at any one time. Until we change the way we elect people we are stuck with them.
Nah, when the Constitution was being debated there were the federalists and the anti-federalists, which were for all intents and purposes political parties.I thought the guys who wrote the constitution didn't anticipate there would be _any_ parties?
Nah, when the Constitution was being debated there were the federalists and the anti-federalists, which were for all intents and purposes political parties.
From my understanding they just modeled it on other democracies they saw and didn’t have the requisite knowledge or foresight to see the problems with FPTP.
To begin with, the Constitution did not provide for any political parties. It's not that the Founding Fathers didn't think about them but, to them, even the word "party'' was anathema. They preferred a presidential election, the linchpin of our political system, in which the top vote-getter got to be president; the number two man, vice president. Why would you need parties?
To the Founders, opposition to the new nation's political leadership meant opposition to the government -- treason. Many of their families, including George Washington's, had fled for their lives from the bloody partisan warfare of the English Civil Wars of the 1640's that ended with King Charles I's beheading. In the ensuing contumacious political infighting, the austere, budget-slashing opponents of free-spending friend of the arts (and numerous mistresses) Charles II were branded "Whigs,'' a derisive Scottish term for curdled milk. Whigs hurled back the word "Tory,'' an Irish word for highway robber, at defenders of the king's lavish lifestyle. Negative references were considered badges of honor and the first party labels.
During the civil warfare of the American Revolution, the two warring parties adopted these old English labels. Adherents to the American independence movement were called Whigs. The pro-English party, the Loyalists -- the real Tea Party -- was denominated Tories, the "intestine" enemy which had to be purged and cast out.
So deep went the fear that post-Revolutionary party politics would again degenerate into civil warfare that the Founding Fathers understandably shunned the word party, much less the idea. Scottish philosopher David Hume, learning that his old friend, Benjamin Franklin, was armpit deep in American political intrigues, recoiled in horror. "I am surprised to learn our friend, Dr. Franklin, is a man of faction. Faction, above all, is a dangerous thing.''
I rarely participate in such matters as everyone is easily offended or whatever but i can only hope from the ashes of this khaos that just perhaps a new party arises. Why is it always Rep vs Dem? I vote for neither cause well i got views that are applied by both parties, yet i have my own ideas that honestly beg for their own party. Not going into detail about that as someone as always will be offended but lets say this could be a way better country.
I will hint, the idea of a Roman sorta empire will great today. A gov for the people by the people. None of this non sense bullshit fighting, all the puppet master pulling their strings to distract everyone.
I’ll bite, what are these ideas that beg for their own party?
I only hinted, that's all i got for you sorry. With all the death wishing and the negative energy flying around, i am not going to contribute to someone getting their panties into a wad and going off. I hate even the fact i posted in this thread cause well its mainly all negative but something compelled me this time. I commented ONCE on a facebook thing about the number of deaths worldwide vs flu and well i had a cousin i never met in my entire life disown and block me after a disagreement. I was even insulted for disagreeing.
Does that sound like fun? I don't think so!
These guys have so many secrets!
And they feel their opinions should be respected by default.We’re so stupid for going on a political forum to discuss politics.
I guess it’s that twitter/Facebook mentality of today where people want to post their opinions but not discuss them with anyone. I call it a self protecting bubble.
There are some really strange secret reasons.I will hint, the idea of a Roman sorta empire will great today. A gov for the people by the people. None of this non sense bullshit fighting, all the puppet master pulling their strings to distract everyone.
I have to say this is the first time I’ve heard of a nation ruled by an all powerful god-emperor as a government ‘by the people and for the people’.There are some really strange secret reasons.
So you don't vote and you don't want to offer solutions. I'll take that into consideration when reading your political posts.I only hinted, that's all i got for you sorry. With all the death wishing and the negative energy flying around, i am not going to contribute to someone getting their panties into a wad and going off. I hate even the fact i posted in this thread cause well its mainly all negative but something compelled me this time. I commented ONCE on a facebook thing about the number of deaths worldwide vs flu and well i had a cousin i never met in my entire life disown and block me after a disagreement. I was even insulted for disagreeing.
Does that sound like fun? I don't think so!
I have to say this is the first time I’ve heard of a nation ruled by an all powerful god-emperor as a government ‘by the people and for the people’.
These people should be outright ignored.So you don't vote and you don't want to offer solutions. I'll take that into consideration when reading your political posts.
I rarely participate in such matters as everyone is easily offended or whatever but i can only hope from the ashes of this khaos that just perhaps a new party arises. Why is it always Rep vs Dem? I vote for neither cause well i got views that are applied by both parties, yet i have my own ideas that honestly beg for their own party. Not going into detail about that as someone as always will be offended but lets say this could be a way better country.
I will hint, the idea of a Roman sorta empire will great today. A gov for the people by the people. None of this non sense bullshit fighting, all the puppet master pulling their strings to distract everyone.