Trump calls MS 13 members "animals"

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sdifox

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I can’t imagine the level of ignorance or how far someone would have to have their head up their ass to think that MS-13 was the most violent group on the planet or that they even merited a consolation prize in that respect.

Jesus, people. I know your political tribe tells you that this is true but as usual they are lying to you. They have nothing but contempt for your brainpower so try and prove them wrong for once.


It's not contempt, it's recognition.
 

sdifox

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I used to be a leftist. Now, i'm not really sure what i am. I'm fiscally conservative as far as what i consider wasteful spending, yet i'm for things like single payer healthcare and free college lol, and then i'm definitely socially liberal. I think i believe in personal responsibility too much to fall in with the Dems much anymore though. I'm ok with letting people make bad decisions and then suffer the consequences without looking to taxpayers to help them out. Sometimes i feel im on my own island politically


You are secrit Canadian :awe:
 

K1052

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Trump reminded them the crowds loved his rhetoric on immigrants along the campaign trail. Acting as if he was at a rally, he then read aloud a few made up Hispanic names and described potential crimes they could have committed, like rape or murder. Then, he said, the crowds would roar when the criminals were thrown out of the country — as they did when he highlighted crimes by illegal immigrants at his rallies, according to a person present for the exchange and another briefed on it later. Miller and Kushner laughed.

https://wapo.st/2II757E?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.8b3715df046d

What pieces of shit.
 

jackstar7

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Really not sure what your point is. I don't think any of us said to ignore everything Trump says and to 'overlook' it.
I'm going to guess, but I think the point is that complacency leads to ever larger disasters, especially with this administration.
 
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Guurn

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I have a brother who is far left and I am certain that they are similar to the far right. The far right hates certain groups and the very far right wants them dead. The far left is self loathing, the very far left wants all humans dead. I've been told this directly.

My brother and I were talking about space travel at the time and even though he is in a STEM field he hates the idea of us wrecking another planet. After I asked more about it he mentioned that he believed (and this is common among his politic peers according to him) that the best thing that could happen is if all people were wiped out and the earth could be left in peace. I was less jaded then and this notion shocked me.

That is why i like those horse shoe politic pics. Some on the left have gone so far left they are almost exactly like the far right.

 

realibrad

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I'm going to guess, but I think the point is that complacency leads to ever larger disasters, especially with this administration.

If that is her point then it directly conflicts with what I said a few posts back. I said we should call out everything, but that the call-out should be equal to what he did.

I only argued that being hyperbolic causes many to tune out and that gives Trump room to do bad things.
 

realibrad

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I have a brother who is far left and I am certain that they are similar to the far right. The far right hates certain groups and the very far right wants them dead. The far left is self loathing, the very far left wants all humans dead. I've been told this directly.

My brother and I were talking about space travel at the time and even though he is in a STEM field he hates the idea of us wrecking another planet. After I asked more about it he mentioned that he believed (and this is common among his politic peers according to him) that the best thing that could happen is if all people were wiped out and the earth could be left in peace. I was less jaded then and this notion shocked me.

Lol sounds like he is an engineer. Those guys overrepresent in the crazies.
 
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fskimospy

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I have a brother who is far left and I am certain that they are similar to the far right. The far right hates certain groups and the very far right wants them dead. The far left is self loathing, the very far left wants all humans dead. I've been told this directly.

My brother and I were talking about space travel at the time and even though he is in a STEM field he hates the idea of us wrecking another planet. After I asked more about it he mentioned that he believed (and this is common among his politic peers according to him) that the best thing that could happen is if all people were wiped out and the earth could be left in peace. I was less jaded then and this notion shocked me.

While I have no doubt that there are a few insane people in the world that believe this as someone who knows a lot of very, very left people in one of the most liberal areas of the entire country that view is not common. In fact I've never met even a single person that holds such a view.
 

realibrad

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While I have no doubt that there are a few insane people in the world that believe this as someone who knows a lot of very, very left people in one of the most liberal areas of the entire country that view is not common. In fact I've never met even a single person that holds such a view.

Go see infinity wars.
 

jackstar7

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If that is her point then it directly conflicts with what I said a few posts back. I said we should call out everything, but that the call-out should be equal to what he did.

I only argued that being hyperbolic causes many to tune out and that gives Trump room to do bad things.
Who do you think blew this response out of proportion? The people annoyed by the language, or the people backlashing against the first group?
 

realibrad

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Who do you think blew this response out of proportion? The people annoyed by the language, or the people backlashing against the first group?

Not sure what response are you talking about?

I jumped into this by asking if the argument at the time was that Trump is right about MS13 being animals, but that because he was bad he should not say others are bad when if we all agree. Young responded in the way she does anyone said no and that I was wrong. Homer said yes and that I was right.

The discussion moved to people being hyperbolic about Trump makes people tune out to criticism because it's assumed to be exaggerated and or untrue. I argued that at some point she was working against her own interests.

I fully agree Trump is a problem. It seems that her goal is to vent by attacking others and not have a discussion. She can do as she pleases, but that is what happened. That is why pixel and I are confused.
 
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realibrad

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And you are tired.

Well I did have a long night. But I literally tried to answer your questions. I just wanted to qualify that by letting you know that if I did not answer your question it was because I was unsure of the question.

But, I am tired.
 
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Who do you think blew this response out of proportion? The people annoyed by the language, or the people backlashing against the first group?

The people annoyed by language. Especially when you agree with him that MS13 are animals. How dare he say something i agree with!!!
 

MrSquished

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I have a brother who is far left and I am certain that they are similar to the far right. The far right hates certain groups and the very far right wants them dead. The far left is self loathing, the very far left wants all humans dead. I've been told this directly.

My brother and I were talking about space travel at the time and even though he is in a STEM field he hates the idea of us wrecking another planet. After I asked more about it he mentioned that he believed (and this is common among his politic peers according to him) that the best thing that could happen is if all people were wiped out and the earth could be left in peace. I was less jaded then and this notion shocked me.

The thing is the far right is the new Republican base. The far left is still just a fringe element of the left.
 

Younigue

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If that is her point then it directly conflicts with what I said a few posts back. I said we should call out everything, but that the call-out should be equal to what he did.

I only argued that being hyperbolic causes many to tune out and that gives Trump room to do bad things.
If that is all that you were saying our conversation could have ended much sooner. You practice to exhaust not inform.
 
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