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akugami

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Well in his defense, there are a lot of charges, and he hasn't exactly been able to get the best lawyers out there as even lawyers seem to be wary of defending him. So I'd imagine it's gonna take the legal team he's managed to throw together a good while to build a suitable defense case here. I'm no lawyer, but I would imagine trying to actually defend Trump in court with everything being thrown at him will be quite the undertaking.

2026 is hilarious though, that seems like an Onion article, but it's real shit. So it looks like his crackpot legal team's about as bright as he is. A lot of what I know about court and lawyers comes from watching Law & Order, and on there the lawyers and prosecutors ask for a week or 2 extra to prepare their case. Not 2 1/2 years. I know that's just a TV show, but at this point that show's gotta be much more realistic than the Trump shit show here that hasn't even made it to court yet.

A 2026 trial date is not an outlandish request by Trump and his legal team.

The thinking is not any crackpot legal defense. It's the fervent hope that they win the election again, and Trump can use the office of the POTUS, along with enablers like Barr, to squash the trial.
 

fskimospy

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A 2026 trial date is not an outlandish request by Trump and his legal team.

The thinking is not any crackpot legal defense. It's the fervent hope that they win the election again, and Trump can use the office of the POTUS, along with enablers like Barr, to squash the trial.
It is an absolutely outlandish request and one that will be laughed out of court. Their basic claim is they are so incompetent at discovery that they need three years to do what any normal team of lawyers could do in a few months.
 

eelw

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How soon before law classes use these crackerjack lawyers as what not to do in lessons? But they deserve commission though
 
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fskimospy

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I think I should clarify that it's not an outlandish legal strategy on Trump's part because they have no real defense. Their only hope is to delay delay delay.

But yes, it is outlandish to delay a trial for two years, because he got a million other criminal trials to go to.
Ah yes, that makes sense - I agree.
 

Stokely

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Correct, Trump and team's only real hopes are 1) delay and hope something happens to change things, like he becomes President and waves his mighty hand to erase anyone and everyone and everything opposing him or 2) he gets at least one Trump zealot on the juries of these cases. I guess 3) would be that his rhetoric gets everyone involved killed, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if we see attempts on the lives of Smith, the judges, the DA, the jurors and anyone suspected of ratting out Trump.

You can say "But GA is a state triail, pardons won't help" but I bet Trump doesn't think like that. He'll cross that bridge when he gets there. And with the propensity of the rest of the GOP to help him make shitty things happen, he might be right in thinking he'll solve that problem. Say as President he orders Justice to arrest Fani Willis--who will stop him? He's dropping turds on every "line not to be crossed" and has been doing so for years. Our system isn't prepared to handle a rich powerful person who simply won't play by rules.

Open question, is it more dangerous prosecuting a mafia boss, or a mafia-wannabe cult leader? The boss has the expertise working under him, the cult leader has sheer numbers and some are willing to throw away their own lives for him.
 

outriding

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I am ok with what ever date Trump wants. As long as Tanya Chutkan follows through with her statement that he goes to jail for ceimes that he has committed after her warning
 
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IronWing

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Well in his defense, there are a lot of charges, and he hasn't exactly been able to get the best lawyers out there as even lawyers seem to be wary of defending him. So I'd imagine it's gonna take the legal team he's managed to throw together a good while to build a suitable defense case here. I'm no lawyer, but I would imagine trying to actually defend Trump in court with everything being thrown at him will be quite the undertaking.
Trump could have the best legal team money can buy. But, you know, he'd have to not stiff them. Oh, and he would have to stop asking his lawyers to do illegal stuff.
 

Stokely

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I am ok with what ever date Trump wants. As long as Tanya Chutkan follows through with her statement that he goes to jail for ceimes that he has committed after her warning

I am not. If he becomes President all bets are off, state charges or not. He'll pardon himself (which has a lot of questions right there) and for state charges he'll try to sic the feds on GA or just ignore them. Republicans in GA will cooperate with whatever he wants, hell there's already one GA congressman trying to impeach Fani Willis right now. And who the hell knows what happens then.

If he becomes President, if I'm Fani W, Jack smith, the judge and maybe the jurors as well I get the hell out of the country if I can and hope Trump doesn't try to send operatives after me. He is going to be hell bent on revenge for being "wronged"

If he gets convicted, and *then* elected (which I think is possible given the American public) that's at least in the open--the GOP is fine with falling under a convicted traitor and rapist.
 

fskimospy

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I am not. If he becomes President all bets are off, state charges or not. He'll pardon himself (which has a lot of questions right there) and for state charges he'll try to sic the feds on GA or just ignore them. Republicans in GA will cooperate with whatever he wants, hell there's already one GA congressman trying to impeach Fani Willis right now. And who the hell knows what happens then.

If he becomes President, if I'm Fani W, Jack smith, the judge and maybe the jurors as well I get the hell out of the country if I can and hope Trump doesn't try to send operatives after me.

If he gets convicted, and *then* elected (which I think is possible given the American public) that's at least in the open--the GOP is fine with falling under a convicted traitor and rapist.
I’m not worried about the internal politics of Georgia. There’s essentially nothing republicans there can do to alter this indictment. They don’t have the votes to impeach her and Trump can’t be pardoned -any modifications to the pardon process that would benefit him couldn’t be in place until 2026 at the absolute earliest.

If Trump somehow becomes president again though then yes he walks free.
 

hal2kilo

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Seems Rudy's got a bunch of receipts burning a hole in his pocket. Trump's worried.


The trail of human carnage just continues. I can't imagine how not paying lawyers who have been indicted is going to work out for you Mr. stable genius.

 
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UNCjigga

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Seems Rudy's got a bunch of receipts burning a hole in his pocket. Trump's worried.


The trail of human carnage just continues. I can't imagine how not paying lawyers who have been indicted is going to work out for you Mr. stable genius.

“The FEC records and testimony from the House Jan. 6 Select Committee also indicate that, alongside Giuliani, none of the private-sector lawyers identified in the special counsel's election case — Sidney Powell, Kenneth Chesebro and John Eastman — were compensated for the work they did for Trump after the 2020 election.”

Well, one plausible explanation is that Trump knew what they were doing was illegal, and not paying for the services rendered in pursuit of a criminal conspiracy might be a strategy for avoiding ultimate responsibility for their actions?? “I never paid them to perpetrate election fraud…how could I possibly be responsible for what they were doing?”
 

fskimospy

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“The FEC records and testimony from the House Jan. 6 Select Committee also indicate that, alongside Giuliani, none of the private-sector lawyers identified in the special counsel's election case — Sidney Powell, Kenneth Chesebro and John Eastman — were compensated for the work they did for Trump after the 2020 election.”

Well, one plausible explanation is that Trump knew what they were doing was illegal, and not paying for the services rendered in pursuit of a criminal conspiracy might be a strategy for avoiding ultimate responsibility for their actions?? “I never paid them to perpetrate election fraud…how could I possibly be responsible for what they were doing?”
That explanation would be more plausible if he paid his other lawyers, haha.

Really though I don’t think these people cared much about being paid. They were in it for the coup, not for the money.
 

akugami

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Trumperdink's fraud defense website hacked.

As of the time of this post it's still hacked. Should they fix it, a snapshot was taken at the Way Back Machine.
 

cytg111

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@fskimospy

I think I should clarify that it's not an outlandish legal strategy on Trump's part because they have no real defense. Their only hope is to delay delay delay.

But yes, it is outlandish to delay a trial for two years, because he got a million other criminal trials to go to.
Well, difference of opinion from someone on this side of the isle…

 

hal2kilo

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That explanation would be more plausible if he paid his other lawyers, haha.

Really though I don’t think these people cared much about being paid. They were in it for the coup, not for the money.
I'm damn sure Rudy did.
 

akugami

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Politicians like Brad Raffensperger had enough balls to not commit fraud. I may not agree with some of the conservative agendas he may be pushing, but he sounds like someone you can actually sit down and talk to. Unlike the frothing mouth idiots like Trump, Greene, or Boebert.
 

fskimospy

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House freedom caucus threatening the country. I say fuck them. Let them self deport to Russia or be shot for treason.
This is all a messaging exercise for the base as these people gave up on actual governance a long time ago. Their demands will be ignored.
 

hal2kilo

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Seems Rudy's got a bunch of receipts burning a hole in his pocket. Trump's worried.


The trail of human carnage just continues. I can't imagine how not paying lawyers who have been indicted is going to work out for you Mr. stable genius.

Michael and I seem to be of the same mind.

 
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