Trump Dr. Press Conference - Does anyone have a link to a similar one for Obama?

[Amused]

This is hilarious. Trump's Dr was grilled because he was clearly, blatantly lying. His own test results proved that. Reality and photographs proved that. Trump's lie about his weight abdominal height proved that.

His cholesterol and blood calcium levels are are indicating rapidly advancing heart disease. This is indisputable.

Welcome to the age of anti-intellectualism. Where the consensus of experts are wrong and your ideological propaganda is right.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Y'see, Slow, disputes over Obama's health didn't come up because he was relatively young, ate healthily, stayed active and was clearly intelligent.

Trump is in his 70s, obese, eats McDonald's all the time, drinks Diet Coke like it's going out of style, only gets a few hours of sleep each day and uses a vocabulary that makes some 10-year-olds seem erudite. Someone who claims to be the healthiest President ever and does that? They're lying. And if you think it's somehow wrong to challenge the President on that, especially when he has a long, proven history of lying, that's pretty sad.

Obama was a middle aged African American that smoked. That is high risk.

 

[HomerJS]

Obama was a middle aged African American that smoked. That is high risk.

For you smoking isn't the risk

 

[SlowSpyder]

For you smoking isn't the risk

There is a clear double standard by the press.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

go with your gut pcgeek.

Haha the Girther Movement is real

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Obama was a middle aged African American that smoked. That is high risk.

Spyder, it’s about Trump not revealing his accurate height & weight. Trump is acting like a young fashion model and keeping it secret.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Spyder, it’s about Trump not revealing his accurate height & weight. Trump is acting like a young fashion model and keeping it secret.

I was looking for a clip of the press grilling Obama's doctor over his high risk lifestyle. Doesn't seem one exists. I think the press is crazy for Trump... secretly the press is smitten with him.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I was looking for a clip of the press grilling Obama's doctor over his high risk lifestyle. Doesn't seem one exists. I think the press is crazy for Trump... secretly the press is smitten with him.

As I said earlier, Trump brought this on himself by saying he’d be the healthiest President EVER. Obama made no such claim, I do remember broadcast news showing videos of Obama sneaking a smoke.
I know you want total Government control of the Press, just accept some people draw more coverage by their actions/statements. Press coverage will never be 100% equal.
If Trump didn’t shit all over Hillary’s health and acted like nearly anyone else on the planet and said something modest like “I’m in pretty good health” or “I’m in better health than most for my age”. He would have been fine. Yes people would comment about his fast food diet (see Bill Clinton) but that would be it.

 

[vi edit]

Meh. Obama still played pickup basketball while in the whitehouse. This lazy fuck has to take a golf cart while the rest of the world leads walked.

 

[SlowSpyder]

As I said earlier, Trump brought this on himself by saying he’d be the healthiest President EVER. Obama made no such claim, I do remember broadcast news showing videos of Obama sneaking a smoke.
I know you want total Government control of the Press, just accept some people draw more coverage by their actions/statements. Press coverage will never be 100% equal.
If Trump didn’t shit all over Hillary’s health and acted like nearly anyone else on the planet and said something modest like “I’m in pretty good health” or “I’m in better health than most for my age”. He would have been fine. Yes people would comment about his fast food diet (see Bill Clinton) but that would be it.

I have no desire for government controlled press. But, I also feel that our profit / agenda driven, run as an entertainment industry (complete with celeb personalities) press we have today isn't telling things square either.

What Trump said about being healthy matters not. What does matter is this, will the person the American people elected by healthy enough to be active during his term(s), and/or is there a likelihood of the POTUS not making it through his term(s). That's what the point is, and that applied to high risk Obama and high risk Trump equally. In one case its a non-issue, in another case the press hammered the doctor. It is easy to see why Trump can't stand the press. They're obsessed with him.

 

[repoman0]

That's what the point is, and that applied to high risk Obama and high risk Trump equally.

You have to be kidding me. A healthy, active young guy who occasionally smokes vs. an obese and lazy fat fuck who can only get around in a golf cart and is clearly mentally deteriorating. Yeah, equal risk indeed

 

[SlowSpyder]

You have to be kidding me. A healthy, active young guy who occasionally smokes vs. an obese and lazy fat fuck who can only get around in a golf cart and is clearly mentally deteriorating. Yeah, equal risk indeed

I am not kidding. African American males have a high risk for heart disease, smoking compounds that. What is "occasionally" and what do you have to know how often he smoked? I don't know why you guys are trying to water this down, that is high risk. I don't care what Obama or Trump does, but the press has a very clear double standard here.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I have no desire for government controlled press. But, I also feel that our profit / agenda driven, run as an entertainment industry (complete with celeb personalities) press we have today isn't telling things square either.

What Trump said about being healthy matters not. What does matter is this, will the person the American people elected by healthy enough to be active during his term(s), and/or is there a likelihood of the POTUS not making it through his term(s). That's what the point is, and that applied to high risk Obama and high risk Trump equally. In one case its a non-issue, in another case the press hammered the doctor. It is easy to see why Trump can't stand the press. They're obsessed with him.

Thats where we disagree, its about Trumps own words to me. I do not like or want to be around people who make exaggerated, boisterous claims that are easily dis-proven. The exaggerated & boisterous part has different meanings to different people, this is my line.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I am not kidding. African American males have a high risk for heart disease, smoking compounds that. What is "occasionally" and what do you have to know how often he smoked? I don't know why you guys are trying to water this down, that is high risk. I don't care what Obama or Trump does, but the press has a very clear double standard here.

Do you really want to go down this road, do you really think Trump's heart is in better shape than Obama's heart health? Do you think its better than Hillary's heart health? Women have a much lower risk and she is in the same age group as Trump, plus she appears to be a reasonably healthy weight.

 

[Stokely]

Can we just send Bill, HIllary and Obama to some gulag, late as this may be? I'd love just a couple days of right-wingers with absolutely nothing to say on every single issue. Granted, I know more boogeymen will pop up, there are teams of Fox interns lining them up "just in case" I'm sure

 

[IronWing]

Do you really want to go down this road, do you really think Trump's heart is in better shape than Obama's heart health?

He doesn't give a shit. This thread is a deflection.

 

[repoman0]

I am not kidding. African American males have a high risk for heart disease, smoking compounds that. What is "occasionally" and what do you have to know how often he smoked? I don't know why you guys are trying to water this down, that is high risk. I don't care what Obama or Trump does, but the press has a very clear double standard here.

If you really believe they were at equal risk, I guess you'll just have to wait and see. My money is on Trump croaking long before Obama. The dude probably hasn't seen his dick in ages. How does he have all these affairs with that obese gut spilling everywhere?

The press cares about Dump's health because Dump himself made it a thing. Personally I don't care about his health, the more fast food and less exercise and sleep the better. I just think it's funny that Americans elected their stereotype around the world.

 

[fskimospy]

I have no desire for government controlled press. But, I also feel that our profit / agenda driven, run as an entertainment industry (complete with celeb personalities) press we have today isn't telling things square either.

What Trump said about being healthy matters not. What does matter is this, will the person the American people elected by healthy enough to be active during his term(s), and/or is there a likelihood of the POTUS not making it through his term(s). That's what the point is, and that applied to high risk Obama and high risk Trump equally. In one case its a non-issue, in another case the press hammered the doctor. It is easy to see why Trump can't stand the press. They're obsessed with him.

You are utterly delusional. The idea that an active, healthy weight 48 year old was at equivalent risk for heart disease for an obese, sedentary 70 year old because he was black and smoked before becoming president is ridiculous.

If you think they were both of even remotely equivalent risk then please provide literally any evidence to support that. Please account for the factors mentioned above. Please note that this doesn't just mean providing a link that says 'smokers are at higher risk of heart disease'. You need to show that Obama's smoking and African ancestry placed him at an equal, or approximately equal risk of heart disease to a 70 year old, obese, sedentary man. If you can't do this, please retract your statement and apologize for accusing the press of a double standard falsely.

 

[brandonbull]

10 of Creator should theoretically lower LDL by 30-50%. If his LDL is above 140 with that medication, that's pretty heinously bad. Somewhat surprised his CAC was only 133. Genetics are a roll of the dice sometimes. Still though, he's got athersclerotic heart disease for whatever that's worth at his age.

Just for a little comparison to the healthiest president of all time, HRCs CAC was 0 and she was on her deathbed amirite?

Passing out and coughing fits are normal occurrences for "healthy people".

 

[repoman0]

Passing out and coughing fits are normal occurrences for "healthy people".

Occasionally, yes. People sometimes get these infections in their lungs called a "common cold" or "flu" which can take out even quite healthy people. I can't say I have ever passed out but my girlfriend has once when she was sick, and she regularly bikes 100 miles with me at speed ... quite fit You would be familiar with these things if you ever got out of your mom's basement.

 

[Commodus]

Obama was a middle aged African American that smoked. That is high risk.

Not nearly as high risk as an obese 71-year-old with terrible eating habits, terrible sleeping habits and a completely sedentary lifestyle.

Also, what the hell does being black have to do with Obama's risk? CDC data shows that there's only a few years' difference in the average age of death between black and white men, and that figure isn't attached to genetics. Just because you've heard there's an elevated risk of heart disease doesn't mean that applies to Obama. The CDC data certainly doesn't account for individual variances... say, a man who eats well, lives in very good conditions and stays active.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Not nearly as high risk as an obese 71-year-old with terrible eating habits, terrible sleeping habits and a completely sedentary lifestyle.

Also, what the hell does being black have to do with Obama's risk? CDC data shows that there's only a few years' difference in the average age of death between black and white men, and that figure isn't attached to genetics. Just because you've heard there's an elevated risk of heart disease doesn't mean that applies to Obama. The CDC data certainly doesn't account for individual variances... say, a man who eats well, lives in very good conditions and stays active.

http://www.idph.state.il.us/heartstroke/cvd_aa_fs.htm

"African-American men are especially at risk for dying from CVD. The age-adjusted mortality rate for African American men is 1,023.4/100,000, higher than any other race-gender group."

"African-American women die of heart disease at 1.4 times the rate of white women. African-American men die of heart disease at 1.3 times the rate of white men.*"

https://www.cdc.gov/vitalsigns/heartdisease-stroke/index.html

"Blacks are nearly twice as likely as whites to die from preventable heart disease and stroke."


I don't know why this is an argument or a point of contention? I thought it was fairly well known that African Americans suffer from heart disease at a higher rate than other races. Now, add smoking to that. You guys are trying to water this down.

Trump is high risk, but you need to stop pretending Obama wasn't. But the press only went wild for one of their doctors as far as I can tell. Pretty telling.

 

[HomerJS]

I was looking for a clip of the press grilling Obama's doctor over his high risk lifestyle. Doesn't seem one exists. I think the press is crazy for Trump... secretly the press is smitten with him.

That's because classy, sane and competent doesn't make news. Press loves a train wreck.

Smoking was Obama's only health risk and he didn't lie about it.

 

[vi edit]

Let me know how many 55 year olds are in this kind of shape...let alone 40 year olds.

 

[hal2kilo]

This is hilarious. Trump's Dr was grilled because he was clearly, blatantly lying. His own test results proved that. Reality and photographs proved that. Trump's lie about his weight abdominal height proved that.

His cholesterol and blood calcium levels are are indicating rapidly advancing heart disease. This is indisputable.

Welcome to the age of anti-intellectualism. Where the consensus of experts are wrong and your ideological propaganda is right.

This Dr. previously just put out a basic medical report after Obamas physicals. The Dr.is talking like he's following a Trump inspired script. Don't you think this is quite odd.