Trump Dr. Press Conference - Does anyone have a link to a similar one for Obama?

[pcgeek11]

We do, in fact!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-claims-over-355-days/?utm_term=.09b533870459

It’s even got a searchable database. The sheer quantity and quality of lies coming from the president are without parallel in history.

Good one. Even a searchable data base. But to be absolutely honest about it the data base is listed as:

2000 false or misleading claims. That doesn't add up to 2000 lies.

How many are false verses misleading?

 

[zinfamous]

Maybe he has some bird DNA mixed in somewhere?

It would certainly be revealing and I think it would be important that citizens know that their president is some sort of freakish bird-human chimera. Don't you?

I wonder if he also has a one-way respiratory system?

 

[fskimospy]

Good one. Even a searchable data base. But to be absolutely honest about it the data base is listed as:

2000 false or misleading claims. That doesn't add up to 2000 lies.

How many are false verses misleading?

Oh for fuck’s sake.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

nm

 

[Victorian Gray]

OK so you have nothing. Got it.

Dude, I never claimed to. So what exactly is it that you think you "got"? Your debate is with the *expert* and it appears, from the other knowledgeable information being posted, that you're losing. Now go google some more. You're not ready to open that medical practice yet.

 

[brycejones]

Good one. Even a searchable data base. But to be absolutely honest about it the data base is listed as:

2000 false or misleading claims. That doesn't add up to 2000 lies.

How many are false verses misleading?

Someone is living in the land of denial.

 

[pcgeek11]

"Next to the lowest dose available" of Crestor is still consider "moderate intensity therapy." 20mg is considered "high intensity." Sure, his exact unmanaged LDL is speculative, but it is most certainly "awful." (technical term).

I find his HDL being that high somewhat suspect and it doesn't quite jive, but, some people do just have good genes so it's certainly not impossible. Taking his numbers at face value, his 10 year ASCVD risk is 16.7% (risk of having stroke or heart attack in the next 10 years with that profile). Take that for what it is.

I actually read the entire letter for Dr Jackson just now and do find it somewhat odd that they performed a LDCT for lung cancer screening. It simply isn't indicated at all. So either he has risks that were not disclosed or it was done without indication (that certainly isn't a rarity in medicine). His stress test was done without clear indication either based on his report. Shrug

I know you're ignorant here, and that's not your fault or even a problem. However, don't pretend it isn't the case, that's when things get awkward.

Also, please don't link to such weak websites as actually evidence. None of those articles are written by actual content experts, expect for perhaps the .gov and that was written in 2012. Cholesterol guidelines have changed since then fairly significantly.

I never claimed to be a doctor and what you say does make sense. I was using the published guidelines readily available. After more digging I see what you are talking about. https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/814152#vp_2

It appears that they don't even use an LDL / HDL chart any longer so really without more information the LDL / HDL numbers don't really tell much of a story.

Thank you for the information.

 

[TheVrolok]

I never claimed to be a doctor and what you say does make sense. I was using the published guidelines readily available. After more digging I see what you are talking about. https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/814152#vp_2

It appears that they don't even use an LDL / HDL chart any longer so really without more information the LDL / HDL numbers don't really tell much of a story.

Thank you for the information.

Not a problem. Good information is good.

 

[pcgeek11]

Oh for fuck’s sake.

That is what I said about your post. The data base says False and Misleading.

 

[dank69]

Good one. Even a searchable data base. But to be absolutely honest about it the data base is listed as:

2000 false or misleading claims. That doesn't add up to 2000 lies.

How many are false verses misleading?

0 false and 0 misleading. Trump has been truthful and the media has told 2000 lies about him over the past year.

 

[HomerJS]

That is what I said about your post. The data base says False and Misleading.

Well with 1000 false and 1000 are misleading that makes Trump an upstanding POTUS

Nice to know you have such high standards

 

[fskimospy]

That is what I said about your post. The data base says False and Misleading.

I have no interest in debating ‘he’s not lying, he’s just saying things that are false and misleading!’ Absolutely ridiculous.

When a public official says so many ‘false and misleading’ things that it requires a fucking SEARCHABLE DATABASE they are doing it on purpose.

 

[brycejones]

That is what I said about your post. The data base says False and Misleading.

Did your kids lie to you or tell you false and misleading statements?

Is there really a moral difference?

 

[zinfamous]

Someone is living in the land of denial.

would that sound catchier if Men at Work put it to music?

 

[fskimospy]

Did your kids lie to you or tell you false and misleading statements?

Is there really a moral difference?

There is a difference. Everyone makes false statements, it’s the intent to deceive that makes it a lie.

The thing is that when you’re averaging around six a day for an entire year in your public statements alone there is no chance that you do not intend to deceive.

This is one of Trump’s defining characteristics and it has been for his entire life. He’s always been widely known as a pathological liar. What was the saying? ‘He would lie to you about the weather just to keep in practice.’

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Good one. Even a searchable data base. But to be absolutely honest about it the data base is listed as:

2000 false or misleading claims. That doesn't add up to 2000 lies.

How many are false verses misleading?

Lets look at this rationally. Everyone says false or misleading things, ALL Politicians say false or misleading things. Even Bernie and Hillary say false or misleading things.
Trump is currently the record holder for false or misleading statements in the time of a campaign and 1 year in office. I think we all agree that this is not a desirable distinction to have.

 

[dank69]

Lets look at this rationally. Everyone says false or misleading things, ALL Politicians say false or misleading things. Even Bernie and Hillary say false or misleading things.
Trump is currently the record holder for false or misleading statements in the time of a campaign and 1 year in office. I think we all agree that this is not a desirable distinction to have.

This database I believe is just since he took office.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

This database I believe is just since he took office.

I did't look at it much I'm giving Trump some slack

 

[outriding]

How so?

Are you saying that the Cholesterol guidelines are not available on the internet? Are you saying that they are false?

LDL cholesterol levels should be less than 100 mg/dL. Levels of 100 to 129 mg/dL are acceptable for people with no health issues but may be of more concern for those with heart disease or heart disease risk factors. A reading of 130 to 159 mg/dL is borderline high and 160 to 189 mg/dL is high. A reading of 190 mg/dL or higher is considered very high.

https://www.healthline.com/health/high-cholesterol/levels-by-age

https://medlineplus.gov/magazine/issues/summer12/articles/summer12pg6-7.html

https://www.cholesterolmenu.com/cholesterol-levels-chart/

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/315900.php#Healthy levels for different age groups

What you listed are general guidelines

We are talking about a person that is over way over weight that does not exercise and has a hard time just walking around

Reading your links it does say numbers are not enough you have to look at other factors that cannot be obtained by a simple blood test

 

[purbeast0]

This pcgeek guy is just trolling you all right? RIGHT?

 

[dank69]

This pcgeek guy is just trolling you all right? RIGHT?

P&N doesn't have any trolls. We are all legitimately this stupid.

 

[brandonbull]

I really don't care how tall he is? I really don't understand why every bodies panties are bunched up over his height. We already knew he was over weight. Big deal.

Because the Libtards need to find something to remove Trump from office before they all have a brain aneurysm from trying to grasp how Trump is president. If Trump was a democrat, he would be considered "curvy" and therefore automatically be granted immortal status.

 

[brandonbull]

I loved the subtle trolling that Dr. Jackson did in his presser where he said Trump would live long enough for a second term.

 

[zinfamous]

I loved the subtle trolling that Dr. Jackson did in his presser where he said Trump would live long enough for a second term.

Of course you love that. You wholly believe that you voted for an internet meme and nothing more.

 

[brycejones]

This pcgeek guy is just trolling you all right? RIGHT?

Who knows, at least here he always plays the petulant infant man (man child would imply a level of maturity he doesn't posses in his posts).

I think he is older like felix and tajbot claim to be as well. So it seems like AT P&N has the angry man yelling at clouds demo locked up.