Trump/GOP Civil War

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Pens1566

Lifer
Oct 11, 2005
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If I were John Kasich, I'd love my chances for 2020 right about now.

Cruz, Rubio, Christie and Bush all got embarrassed, and Ryan is now busy fighting Trump and his supporters, but Kasich seems to have gotten away from this clusterfuck without a scratch on him.

He's really the only "pristine" candidate left out of the current crop. He's sane (somewhat). Unless they have their own version of Obama that comes out of nowhere, things will be problematic again in 2020. I don't expect this to be a short divorce.
 

werepossum

Elite Member
Jul 10, 2006
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If I were John Kasich, I'd love my chances for 2020 right about now.

Cruz, Rubio, Christie and Bush all got embarrassed, and Ryan is now busy fighting Trump and his supporters, but Kasich seems to have gotten away from this clusterfuck without a scratch on him.
By 2020 there will be so many felons and now-illegals voting that no Republican will stand a chance. We all knew it was coming, but I think Trump has helped usher the USA into single party banana republic status well ahead of schedule. Given that historically he's been a Democrat supporter, he'll probably take credit for that.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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By 2020 there will be so many felons and now-illegals voting that no Republican will stand a chance. We all knew it was coming, but I think Trump has helped usher the USA into single party banana republic status well ahead of schedule. Given that historically he's been a Democrat supporter, he'll probably take credit for that.

So, that's the new FUD?

There is currently no path to citizenship for illegals nor likely will there ever be. You know it to be true.

Ex offenders' voting rights are restored in most States & have been for a long while-

http://www.nonprofitvote.org/voting-in-your-state/special-circumstances/voting-as-an-ex-offender/

Invest in a new dog whistle.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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There are a lot of ways to put it- tempting fate. playing with fire. feeding the bears. sticking your dick in the cray-cray. They all mean the same thing & that's what Repubs have been getting away with for decades. Other than the True Believers, they're utterly insincere & always have been. They're exploiters of fear, uncertainty & distrust, of pride & prejudice.

They act only in the interests of the true Bush constituency.

They got arrogant, complacent, & entirely too greedy. They thought they could control it. This is the kind of stuff they've been toying with, make no mistake about it-

https://www.google.com/search?q=tomorrow+belongs+to+me&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
 

Balt

Lifer
Mar 12, 2000
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By 2020 there will be so many felons and now-illegals voting that no Republican will stand a chance. We all knew it was coming, but I think Trump has helped usher the USA into single party banana republic status well ahead of schedule. Given that historically he's been a Democrat supporter, he'll probably take credit for that.

Disagree. Trump has done everything he could to alienate every voter that isn't a white male, and he was still within a couple of points (nationally) of being competitive until the past few days.

The problem for Republicans isn't felons and illegals, it's the people they nominate. Contributing to that, this round, was a complete lack of party discipline. A ridiculous number of people ran for the 2016 nomination that had NO chance of accomplishing anything except making the guy who won more than 25% the winner.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Disagree. Trump has done everything he could to alienate every voter that isn't a white male, and he was still within a couple of points (nationally) of being competitive until the past few days.

The problem for Republicans isn't felons and illegals, it's the people they nominate. Contributing to that, this round, was a complete lack of party discipline. A ridiculous number of people ran for the 2016 nomination that had NO chance of accomplishing anything except making the guy who won more than 25% the winner.

That's not true. Trump won pulling away, thrashing Cruz, his closest competitor, by 5.6M votes. He had an outright majority going into the convention-

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/republican_vote_count.html
 

LegendKiller

Lifer
Mar 5, 2001
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Schwarzenegger is now considered some sort of moral authority to be calling for anybody's head? This is the guy who screwed an ugly maid and disavowed his own son to hide it.

lol.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Schwarzenegger is now considered some sort of moral authority to be calling for anybody's head? This is the guy who screwed an ugly maid and disavowed his own son to hide it.

lol.

Philanderers & misogynists aren't necessarily the same. Trump is both whereas Schwarzenegger hasn't been shown to be the latter.
 
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Balt

Lifer
Mar 12, 2000
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That's not true. Trump won pulling away, thrashing Cruz, his closest competitor, by 5.6M votes. He had an outright majority going into the convention-

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/republican_vote_count.html

You are looking at the final totals. Look at the early contests. Trump won a plurality, not a majority.

Would Trump have won regardless? Possibly, maybe even probably. But the GOP didn't do themselves a favor by having 17 candidates running for the nomination.

The larger problem has already been discussed, which is that the GOP has spent the last 8+ year ensuring that a candidate like Trump would win by encouraging his brand of stupid rhetoric. I didn't feel like re-hashing that, though.
 

LegendKiller

Lifer
Mar 5, 2001
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Philanderers & misogynists aren't necessarily the same. Trump is both whereas Schwarzenegger hasn't been shown to be the latter.

lol.

Do you really think that Arnie is a good guy? I mean, common. There are stories he assaulted Linda Hamilton and there was a pic of him fingering some chick in a bar/restaurant back when.

Do you really think that Tiger is nothing but common among that type of demographic (rich, successful, famous...etc). Groupies?
 

yllus

Elite Member & Lifer
Aug 20, 2000
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There is no civil war. Republicans will still back him en masse because their constituents will be angry if they do not support their racist, bigoted, sexual assaulting presidential candidate. They like their racist, bigoted, sexual assaulting presidential candidate.

Politico - Exclusive poll: GOP voters want the party to stand by Trump

As of now, GOP voters largely want the party to stand behind Trump. Nearly three-quarters of Republican voters, 74 percent, surveyed on Saturday said party officials should continue to support Trump. Only 13 percent think the party shouldn’t back him.​
 

LegendKiller

Lifer
Mar 5, 2001
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There is no civil war. Republicans will still back him en masse because their constituents will be angry if they do not support their racist, bigoted, sexual assaulting presidential candidate. They like their racist, bigoted, sexual assaulting presidential candidate.

Politico - Exclusive poll: GOP voters want the party to stand by Trump

As of now, GOP voters largely want the party to stand behind Trump. Nearly three-quarters of Republican voters, 74 percent, surveyed on Saturday said party officials should continue to support Trump. Only 13 percent think the party shouldn’t back him.​

If this Senor thing turns out and this was Bush, I think you'll see heads roll. There was already one GA Rep on twitter calling it out.
 

yllus

Elite Member & Lifer
Aug 20, 2000
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If this Senor thing turns out and this was Bush, I think you'll see heads roll. There was already one GA Rep on twitter calling it out.
It would certainly be interesting if the Republican Party punished those who outed a candidate who boasts about sexual assault. That will definitely endear the GOP to female voters.
 

Bitek

Lifer
Aug 2, 2001
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Trying to save that down ticket ballot and precious congress seats. Also trying to save some face for 2020 hoping that some of the stench from this year still isn't clinging to them. They party of personal responsibility can't abort this and has to carry it to term. Best they can do at this point is deny it even exists and hope it all goes away 3 years.

Pence already started that last Tuesday
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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Looks like it was an inside job. GOP is likely toast if this is true.

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/785651411098808321

What the heck is a Mormon Mafia globalist? The mere fact this term exists is a sign of how bad the state of the GOP and its base is right now. Its a bunch of little fragments that have very little in common except a dislike of "liberals". When that isn't enough they turn on each other in a heart beat.
 
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LegendKiller

Lifer
Mar 5, 2001
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It would certainly be interesting if the Republican Party punished those who outed a candidate who boasts about sexual assault. That will definitely endear the GOP to female voters.

Really? They *LET* Him? And not to mention, according to sources, it is a *highly* edited audio to maximize impact against trump, so I doubt it's nearly as bad as they released.

This was a coup attempt.
 

yllus

Elite Member & Lifer
Aug 20, 2000
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Really? They *LET* Him? And not to mention, according to sources, it is a *highly* edited audio to maximize impact against trump, so I doubt it's nearly as bad as they released.

This was a coup attempt.
The word "let" wasn't in anything I wrote?

Who are your sources that say it was highly edited? And if it was highly edited, why didn't Mr. Trump, who complains for days about the slightest issue, state anything along those lines?

I hope it was a coup attempt. You should hope so too. What the fuck is wrong with you?
 

HamburgerBoy

Lifer
Apr 12, 2004
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Philanderers & misogynists aren't necessarily the same. Trump is both whereas Schwarzenegger hasn't been shown to be the latter.

lmao, did you completely forget about his run for governor? Ahnold is just as much a sexual predator as Dahnold.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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lol.

Do you really think that Arnie is a good guy? I mean, common. There are stories he assaulted Linda Hamilton and there was a pic of him fingering some chick in a bar/restaurant back when.

Do you really think that Tiger is nothing but common among that type of demographic (rich, successful, famous...etc). Groupies?

To my knowledge, Arnold has not spoken in a way that demeans women, nor has Bill. Donald obviously has & therein lies the difference you so desperately avoid.
 

LegendKiller

Lifer
Mar 5, 2001
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The word "let" wasn't in anything I wrote?

Who are your sources that say it was highly edited? And if it was highly edited, why didn't Mr. Trump, who complains for days about the slightest issue, state anything along those lines?

I hope it was a coup attempt. You should hope so too. What the fuck is wrong with you?

You called it sexual assault. There have been only 2 accusations of assault. One from a woman who had a business dealing and settled out of court for the dealing. The second a joke of a court filing where the judge is the sister of a liberal news reporter and all names are anonymous.

So please do tell me where he said he assaults them. They "let" him do it. He never said he rapes them.
 
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