Trump Guys, how's that wall coming

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For the record & our AT Trump followers, I've never voted R for President. I don't think a wall would impact anything substantially, however if a wall & maintaining the wall costs zero dollars like the President has said on many occasions I'm all for it. No playing funny number games to get to zero, straight up it needs to be zero cost to me.
I'm alright if Mexico pays then we pay maintenance however I want something of value in exchange for that deal. Saying you're not going to blow up ACA or extend the debt ceiling isn't a deal, saying you're not going to detonate a bomb if I agree to something is not a deal.
 

IronWing

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The wall will be devastating to wildlife. I'd rather have jaguars than a wall.
 
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The wall will be devastating to wildlife. I'd rather have jaguars than a wall.

Let's let them figure out how to build & maintain a wall at zero cost first it will be much more fun that way. I don't want to hear excuses how they (wall-ers) did us a favor by not building the wall.
 

highland145

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From a purely illegal immigrant standpoint, the wall is dumb. Use the system that has been in place for years, e-verify. Enforce it and fine the crap out of businesses that don't comply.
 

Balt

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Saw a story about the drug rings are flying drugs over the border using Drones. Wall is sure going to stop that.

Only until we pay some defense company $20 billion to install radar and anti-drone railguns on top of it.

Then they'll be forced to go back to just tunneling under it/using a ladder.
 
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Only until we pay some defense company $20 billion to install radar and anti-drone railguns on top of it.

Then they'll be forced to go back to just tunneling under it/using a ladder.

Our just throwing it over maybe a soccer kick since they have thighs the size of cantaloupes.
 

Snarf Snarf

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Justice? A safer United States? Support of the law? Helping to stop potential terrorists, criminals, gangs and other people from illegally entering the country?

You are aware a wall will stop none of those right? You are aware El Chapo and other notorious criminals smuggle their drugs and sex slaves through tunnels that would go underneath a wall right? You are aware that the terrorists that enter this country have falsified papers and passports and enter the country legally right? You can't logically support a wall on our Mexican border without supporting a wall on the Canadian border as well. 95% of the people hopping the border right now are fleeing gang related violence trying to save their families.

The billion dollar drug industry that operates out of Mexico has the resources to circumvent any ridiculous idea you support to try to stop them from getting products into this country. The only way we're stopping the drug problem is to address the disease of addiction in this country. Pretending a wall is going to do anything other than balloon our already sky high national debt is a pipe dream and nothing more than a talking point to pander to people who think foreigners are ruining our great nation.
 
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FelixDeCat

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Rome was not built in a day, neither will Americas greatest effort to stop illegal immigration.

BUILD A WALL!
 

Jhhnn

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From a purely illegal immigrant standpoint, the wall is dumb. Use the system that has been in place for years, e-verify. Enforce it and fine the crap out of businesses that don't comply.

If you think that a Repub Congress will make E-verify mandatory you're absolutely out of your mind. Dems won't do it, either, for entirely different reasons.
 

IronWing

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Get your lazy ass down to Home Depot and get you some wall building supplies and get busy.
One of the "patriot" groups tried that. They got a few feet of chain link up before imploding in the typical infighting, embezzlement, and lack of perseverance one would expect from a group of rugged individuals.
 
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and zero environmental impact, also nobody loses homes or property in the creation of it.

Again let's not let them escape the free wall idea by saying libs won't let it happen to protect the hairless Texas field bunny and now they're doing us a favor.
I want to see a wall that I don't have to pay for. The boarder states can figure out land encroachment and animals.
Part of the planning involves this stuff.
I heard many times there would be a great and beautiful wall and I'm not going to pay for it.

I'm tired of Democrats allowing ourselves to be the schmoe (spelling?), the guy who gets in the ring to get beat down and draw laughs.
Trump said there would be a beautiful wall that will be built quickly because he is a builder and Mexico will be happy to pay for it. I want that wall.
 
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Meghan54

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Trump has gone from "Mexico will pay for the wall and I will protect your Social Security".

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"I'll will stop your Social Security if you don't pay for the wall".

In all honesty, that's not exactly accurate. Trump's threat of a govt. shutdown really won't affect SS payments since they're funded separately. Payments still go out.
 

Jhhnn

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In all honesty, that's not exactly accurate. Trump's threat of a govt. shutdown really won't affect SS payments since they're funded separately. Payments still go out.

It's still taking the govt hostage. Repubs have been burned at that too many times to play the game voluntarily. They'll need to compromise heavily with Dems if they're to have a veto proof majority.
 
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