Trump has fired Tillerson

[Alpha One Seven]

How about all the donations to the Clinton Foundation from foreign govts while she was SOS?

That should be more than enough evidence to close this case, and there's a lot more.

Don't feed the troll.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Don't feed the troll.

The irony here is strong.

 

[K1052]

How about all the donations to the Clinton Foundation from foreign govts while she was SOS?

That should be more than enough evidence to close this case, and there's a lot more.

Specify what impropriety and/or corruption you are alleging. If there is so much "evidence" this should not be a problem.

 

[Jhhnn]

Alpha & Unseen must be from different troll armies...

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

This speech and his restraint of Trump's worse ideas are his main contributions. He was a bad fit for State and had been managing it into the ground.

Tillerson would never be someone I'd pick for the post but restraining Trump is a full time task for anyone. Who could have taken control from Trump and done much better?

It's not that Tillerson was great but compared to the really crappy replacement he's a hell of a lot better.

 

[Thebobo]

Hillary gets my vote for worse ever Secretary of State.

Well of course she was dear.

 

[unseenmorbidity]

Specify what impropriety and/or corruption you are alleging. If there is so much "evidence" this should not be a problem.

Well, the USA is an oligarchy, so it is a problem.

Look at any one of them. Uranium One with Russia, Weapon deals with Saudi, etc.. You give the Clintons money, and then you get their ear, and potentially get favors.

Buying a politicians is like play a game of craps with loaded dice. You won't always win, but you drastically improve your odds.

 

[Jhhnn]

Unseen is gish galloping...

 

[zinfamous]

About time. It's nice to have a man that isn't afraid to get rid of dead wood and bring in blood when its needed.
Folks in Washington have felt like they were above being fired for too long.

what the fuck are you even talking about? Trump appointed Tillerson, kept the State department empty, and "hired" his son in law to effectively handle the entirety of SecState's job.

Tillerson was never "dead wood in Washington." He was there for barely over a year, a non-political businessman hired by the man that claimed he is useless.

You are mixing your talking points with some other subject that you are confusing. Talking point generator is kaput.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

It's good in that Tillerson was likely one of the worst Secretaries of State in the history of the country. It's bad because his replacement is probably worse.

In the world as we find it who could manage Trump and run State properly in spite of a nut behind the wheel? Not a defense of Tillerson but at least he tried to work with our allies.

 

[soundforbjt]

Tillerson would never be someone I'd pick for the post but restraining Trump is a full time task for anyone. Who could have taken control from Trump and done much better?

It's not that Tillerson was great but compared to the really crappy replacement he's a hell of a lot better.

Look who’s taking Pompeo’s job.

 

[Aikouka]

That's why I pointed them to the Internet search engines.

There's no point in making an assertion if you're going to half-ass an actual backing to it. Saying "use Google" isn't a reasonable answer, because I can go to Google, type in "Is the world flat?" and "Is the world round?" and find written responses that assert them! Here's the thing... you don't necessarily even need to provide an exact link. If you think she did a poor job handling something or doing a certain task that's assigned to her, then state that maybe with a short blurb as to why. At least that is a start.

But here's my problem. I've dealt with people like you in the past, and not to be mean... but it's a waste of breath. I hear statements like "There are many reasons!", and as soon as I say, "Can you give me one?", do you know what the usual response is? It's something along the lines of "Well, you can look it up." Does that sound familiar? Honestly, if there are so many reasons, it's quite telling that I can't even get a single vague one.

 

[zinfamous]

Not even close.

The best way to avoid war is to be ready for war.

I bet that sounded cool to you when popping zits in front of your bathroom mirror, didn't it?

 

[brycejones]

I don't expect anything from you including common sense. I won't be disappointed that way.

Boring troll is boring, years of work and education for you to make it to the troll factory and this is the best you can come up with. It doesn't say much for the Russian educational system or your work ethic.

 

[K1052]

Well, the USA is an oligarchy, so it is a problem.

Look at any one of them. Uranium One with Russia, Weapon deals with Saudi, etc.. You give the Clintons money, and then you get their ear, and potentially get favors.

Buying a politicians is like play a game of craps with loaded dice. You won't always win, but you drastically improve your odds.

I was wondering if I was going to get Uranium One. No less than Fox News debunked that theory.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ry-infuriates-viewers/?utm_term=.3a7a74fb66b8

 

[fskimospy]

When I feel that I have to do something some faceless fool on the internet says I need to do, I'll check myself into a hospital.

You don't HAVE to do anything. It just seems odd that you would make a claim that she's the worst SoS in history and then not provide a single, solitary fact to back that claim up. That indicates to me that you're most likely just posting here to emotionally rant about things, which is fine, but you should be upfront about that.

 

[unseenmorbidity]

I was wondering if I was going to get Uranium One. No less than Fox News debunked that theory.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ry-infuriates-viewers/?utm_term=.3a7a74fb66b8

Yah, I knew you were fishing for that.... too obvious. I gave it to you out of pity.

Sorry, it's not debunked.

Washing post is bought by Bezos and has a huge deal with the CIA. It's a shitrag.

The facts of the matter is that HRC got 145 million in donations funneled into the TCF, and Bill Clinton got another 0.5 million for a "speech" to a Russian bank.

Those facts remain. What was supposed debunked is was the 20% uranium claim, and the claim that HRC made this decision by herself. However, these aren't really important. The amount of power the Clintons wield is immense! So the claim that HRC couldn't make the decision herself, while true, isn't particularly compelling. What the money was for? Who knows, who cares?

PS: I notice you didn't talk about the $ from Saudi Arabia.

 

[Paratus]

Lol I am not going to give you a fish, but I'll teach you to fish. Hint use a search engine to find what is known about your topic of interest.
Happy hunting!

From the way you described Clinton’s history I thought the fish was going to be a marlin.

Instead:

You guys really need to take take the blinders off.

 

[fskimospy]

No. Trump did not put everyone in Washington that is there.

He put Tillerson there, who was not formerly in Washington. lol.

Looks like Trump can't hire worth a shit, huh?

 

[fskimospy]

In the world as we find it who could manage Trump and run State properly in spite of a nut behind the wheel? Not a defense of Tillerson but at least he tried to work with our allies.

While some of Tillerson's failure is certainly Trump's fault Tillerson was very, very bad in his own right. Sure, he couldn't help Trump ignoring his attempts at diplomacy and going his own way but he both failed at being an effective advocate to Trump and he decimated the department's workforce and morale, and that's something he did have a lot of control over.

 

[Thebobo]

Well, the USA is an oligarchy, so it is a problem.

Look at any one of them. Uranium One with Russia, Weapon deals with Saudi, etc.. You give the Clintons money, and then you get their ear, and potentially get favors.

Buying a politicians is like play a game of craps with loaded dice. You won't always win, but you drastically improve your odds.

Post a Derp Clinton whining -10 points. Total score -neg -999999

 

[zinfamous]

You're the one making the statement that she's the worst SoS of all time, not me. As far as I can see we have a few different topics, so please provide specific events that you think prove your case.

1) Time in the Senate - what did she do there that made her a bad Secretary of State years later?
2) Her time in the White House (meaning in the 90's?) - I would love to know what she did two decades prior that made her a bad SoS.
3) Her books - what chapters of her books made her a bad SoS, specifically?
4) Her interviews - same question.
5) Long list of dead bodies - can you expand on this claim?

I feel like I've given you a decent scaffold to make your case. Please fill it in as much as you can. I'm excited for this discussion and for you to help me 'take off the blinders'!

I think you're confused. It's simple but but but HIllary because these dipshits have nothing else they can pin. And even then, it's pure fever dreams. Conservatives have no minds.

 

[Thebobo]

Yah, I knew you were fishing for that.... too obvious. I gave it to you out of pity.

Sorry, it's not debunked.

Washing post is bought by Bezos and has a huge deal with the CIA. It's a shitrag.

The facts of the matter is that HRC got 145 million in donations funneled into the TCF, and Bill Clinton got another 0.5 million for a "speech" to a Russian bank.

PS: I notice you didn't talk about the $ from Saudi Arabia.

Wacko alert!!!

 

[Jhhnn]

While some of Tillerson's failure is certainly Trump's fault Tillerson was very, very bad in his own right. Sure, he couldn't help Trump ignoring his attempts at diplomacy and going his own way but he both failed at being an effective advocate to Trump and he decimated the department's workforce and morale, and that's something he did have a lot of control over.

Elect a clown, expect a circus.

 

[zinfamous]

Lol I am not going to give you a fish, but I'll teach you to fish. Hint use a search engine to find what is known about your topic of interest.
Happy hunting!

so, you're a 12 year-old Russian troll?