Trump has pardoned Joe Arpaio

[FelixDeCat]

Antifa doesn't hide behind badges.

Badges?!

The Facist Left doesn't need any stinkin' badges!

They just show up and start tearing down statues, beating up people and breaking shit if you don't agree with them.

Sad.

 

[IronWing]

Felix supports crime. You read it here.

 

[Thebobo]

"
To be sure, the pardon of Arpaio is, at least in part, a political act by a president who campaigned on a tough-as-nails immigration policy and who received Arpaio’s backing. But there’s a pretty good argument that the prosecution of Arpaio was also political.

It was the highly politicized, left-wing Obama Justice Department that chose to prosecute Arpaio in connection with the hot button political issue of enforcing immigration laws. The judge whose order Arpaio defied apparently was satisfied with civil contempt. Team Obama went criminal on the octogenarian sheriff. And it did so, according to Arpaio’s lawyers, just two weeks before he stood for reelection.

The pardon thus can be said to represent a political end to a political case.

Some may defend the pardon by comparing it to egregious pardons of the past, like President Clinton’s pardon of wealthy fugitive Marc Rich and President Obama’s pardon of a Puerto Rican terrorist. Arguing form these outliers strikes me as misguided. Their pardons were so flagrantly unjust that the same argument could be used to defend a great many indefensible pardons.

No such argument is required to defend Trump’s pardon of Arpaio. It was a reasonable exercise of the pardon power."

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/08/trump-pardons-joe-arpaio.php

Nice no insults well thought out and reasonable argument in the defense of Sheriff Joe Apeiros pardon.







But you're still wrong.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Thank you. So that covers brown. What about Obama? Were there similar circumstances for Obama's pardons? Last I read was that Obama's pardons were mostly related to drugs.

Couldn't be arsed to look up the Obama numbers but, given the person making the claims is a professional pearl clutcher, I'm not expecting any more accuracy with that part of his ravings.

 

[Victorian Gray]

good waterboy, just a fantastic waterboy.

Nah, not really. He tries real hard but he keeps spilling the water.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Tell it to your antifa thugs.

Have they given you a nice brown shirt to wear while toting all those pails of water?

 

[Victorian Gray]

Badges?!

The Facist Left doesn't need any stinkin' badges!

They just show up and start tearing down statues, beating up people and breaking shit if you don't agree with them.

Sad.

And yet another waterboy. Tote those pails bunky, tote those pails. Maybe you can get your very own brown shirt too.

 

[fskimospy]

Remember when conservatives said their opposition to illegal immigration was that it was against the law? Lol, looks like that excuse is out the window. Apparently committing crimes is fine by them so long as the right people are committing crimes.

 

[Brainonska511]

Remember when conservatives said their opposition to illegal immigration was that it was against the law? Lol, looks like that excuse is out the window. Apparently committing crimes is fine by them so long as the right people are committing crimes.

It's just like the federal deficit. It's evil and bad until they're in charge funding their pet projects. Law and order is great, as long as it targets the right people and the other right people are doing the enforcing... It's as if those principled conservatives are not so principled. I'm shocked.

 

[fskimospy]

It's just like the federal deficit. It's evil and bad until they're in charge funding their pet projects. Law and order is great, as long as it targets the right people and the other right people are doing the enforcing... It's as if those principled conservatives are not so principled. I'm shocked.

Truly, no one could have seen this coming.

The thing is that Arpaio has likely committed quite a few state level crimes as well. Maybe someone will have the guts to stand up for what's right and correct this miscarriage of justice with a state level indictment.

 

[Brainonska511]

Truly, no one could have seen this coming.

The thing is that Arpaio has likely committed quite a few state level crimes as well. Maybe someone will have the guts to stand up for what's right and correct this miscarriage of justice with a state level indictment.

One could hope, but given that there has been no movement in that direction, I wouldn't be holding my breath

 

[yllus]

It shouldn't be unconstitutional to stop some brown people (the most common type of illegal immigrant in the area) living near the border and question their status. If they're citizens or legal immigrants, (LEGAL immigrants are required to carry their green cards at all times, so that should be easy)

In reality, this is how that policy played out:

Marty Atencio was a third-generation military veteran who had served in the Gulf War. Upon returning to civilian life, Atencio would struggle for years with schizophrenia and homelessness. In 2011, he was arrested for “aggressive” behavior outside a convenience store and taken to the Maricopa County Jail. The arresting officer noted that Atencio seemed to be suffering from a mental illness, and when he arrived at the jail he appeared “off his rocker.” Atencio informed jail staff that he was having suicidal thoughts and was placed in an isolation cell.

Later, according to a lawsuit filed against the Sheriff’s office, officers began to make fun of Atencio’s mental state, and when he refused an order to take his shoes off, closed in on Atencio and began beating and tasering him. They dragged Atencio’s unconscious body back to his cell, where he was stripped naked and left on the floor. His was found “covered with bruises, lacerations and puncture marks,” and would never regain consciousness. Atencio would be buried with full military honors, with Maricopa County having to cough up a large wrongful death settlement for his family.

...

In 2015, Felix Torres was pulled over on his bicycle for riding the wrong way up the street, and found to be in possession of drug paraphernalia. While in jail awaiting trial, he was taken to the County Medical Center for severe stomach pain. Though Torres said he had a history of ulcers, doctors decided he had a hernia, and gave him a drug not recommended for people with ulcers. After being returned to jail, Torres, “spent the next few days crying, writhing in pain, and begging guards to help him or take him to the hospital.”

Torres began “banging on his cell door and asking for help,” but an officer told him “You’re bullshitting… go to sleep.” On the night he died, Torres asked multiple officers for help, telling them he was dying. “You’re fucking faking it,” one replied. Torres’s family would receive $1 million. (And while it should make no difference, we might bear in mind that at the time of his death, Felix Torres was an innocent man.)

...

[A]n MCSO officer stopped a Latina woman – a citizen of the United States and five months pregnant at the time – as she pulled into her driveway. After she exited her car, the officer then insisted that she sit on the hood of the car. When she refused, the officer grabbed her arms, pulled them behind her back, and slammed her, stomach first, into the vehicle three times. He then dragged her to the patrol car and shoved her into the backseat. He left her in the patrol car for approximately 30 minutes without air conditioning. The MCSO officer ultimately issued a citation for failure to provide identification. This citation was later changed to failure to provide proof of insurance. The citation was resolved when the woman provided her proof of insurance to the local courts.

Eventually, the federal courts intervened and instructed Arpaio to stop. But he persisted, brazenly flouting the order, leading to the contempt charge for which he has now been pardoned). Instead of listening to the judge, Arpaio hired a private investigator to investigate the judge’s wife.

Meanwhile, Arpaio continued to inflict misery on Hispanic Arizonans. And the heavy-handedness of the anti-immigrant tactics prevented Arpaio’s office from solving actual crimes in Hispanic areas, creating what the Justice Department called “a wall of distrust that has significantly compromised MCSO’s ability to provide police protection to Maricopa County’s Latino residents.”​

 

[senseamp]

https://static.currentaffairs.org/2017/08/wait-do-people-actually-know-just-how-evil-this-man-is

Piece of excrement like Trump.

 

[cytg111]

Can't say we didn't see this one coming but its official now. What do you guys think of this?
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/25/politics/sheriff-joe-arpaio-donald-trump-pardon/index.html

Winning!

 

[Moonbeam]

Let's consider the nature of dualistic thinking for a moment. Humans use language to communicate things learned in the past. Learning, our capacity to understand reality, is influenced by pleasure and pain. We seek pleasure and will do what we can to avoid pain. Pain produces fear, that it will happen again or that it will continue. In this way our experiences can become emotionally colored. Language provides a way we can communicate what is painful or dangerous to others without them having to feel that pain. Prior to the advent of language one way that animals remembered bad experiences was genetically built in, the experience of retching food that is contaminated. This is the basis of human disgust, the experience of what looks to be sickening. We also have an organic need as children to be cared for and loved. Without that we would not survive.

The point is that all of these things allow us to be programmed by our individual experiences via a language or accidental events that will create the notion of good and evil. We can be told how to behave, how not to cause disgust in others, how not to behave shamefully, by the threat of being told we are that when we deviate, when we do not adhere to the local parental notions of good and evil. We can be controlled by being put down with words, or other painful experiences. These are the things that can create what we refer to as traumatic events and PSD. And all of these kinds of experiences are either non-volitional, the experience of disgust at the appearance of conditioned disgusting things, or, in the case of childhood put downs meant to induce moral conformity, to become repressed memories. We can't survive in a state of constant psychological pain as children, but we carry the damage done in the form of reactivity to events on an unconscious level.

There are, I believe, two ways that children react to being controlled as children, willing victims and resistant victims. I think conservatives, the biggest practitioners of punishment based good and evil thinking, suffer from Stockholm Syndrome. They have been converted and accept the roll of perpetrators of dualistic moral beliefs based on merit and reward for being good, and the need for retribution if not. Liberals side more with the victims and hold the perpetrators themselves in contempt. Each gains the high ground by making the other the source of evil. Same disease, same insanity, same refusal to see that disease in themselves. I believe it is harder for conservatives to recover, however, because they participate actively in the evil and if they were conscious of it would feel guilt. The desire to see others suffer from the results of their sins is the result of having been made to suffer that same thing as an innocent. The repetitive experience of being made to feel worthless is hate and a desire for revenge. When evil is done to liberals with their sympathy for victims, they can experience the same hate and desire for righteous vengeance.

The only thing I can see to take us off this merry-go-round is the realization of the futility of rage, that vengeance and punishment are the source of the problem, not the cure. People need some way to transcend their guilt and the feeling that was inculcated that conditioned them to believe there is only one way to being worth something, that their truth is the only one. The only truth is the condition of being unconditioned, of being real. Conditioning, of course, leads to the mental belief or certainty that one is not conditioned. The truth is deeply hidden.

 

[cytg111]

I've never heard of a situation like this happening before. Okay, sometimes you get controversial people pardoned because they're currently in jail and old or sick, but pardoned while in good health just for the sake of partisanship? Insanity. Utter insanity. Trump is literally destroying the rule of law in America.

Trump will forever be known as the fake President Of The United States, so there is that context.
I cant get my head around the fact that 2/3rds of white male talent voted for this guy? Really? Dam son, thats some entitled bitches right there. Hell hath no fury like a white man scorned.

 

[JSt0rm]

Trump will forever be known as the fake President Of The United States, so there is that context.
I cant get my head around the fact that 2/3rds of white male talent voted for this guy? Really? Dam son, thats some entitled bitches right there. Hell hath no fury like a white man scorned.

White men were cool when they could sip scotch and pump darker skinned people full of lead from a gattling gun. It's all down hill since the technological parity. And white men are pissed!*




*except me and some other ones.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Trump will forever be known as the fake President Of The United States, so there is that context.
I cant get my head around the fact that 2/3rds of white male talent voted for this guy? Really? Dam son, thats some entitled bitches right there. Hell hath no fury like a white man scorned.

I think you need to amend that, 2/3rds of the white males who voted, voted for the bloated orange bag of batshit crazy. It's the number of women that voted for him that gives me pause, tbh.

 

[cytg111]

Let's consider the nature of dualistic thinking for a moment. Humans use language to communicate things learned in the past. Learning, our capacity to understand reality, is influenced by pleasure and pain. We seek pleasure and will do what we can to avoid pain. Pain produces fear, that it will happen again or that it will continue. In this way our experiences can become emotionally colored. Language provides a way we can communicate what is painful or dangerous to others without them having to feel that pain. Prior to the advent of language one way that animals remembered bad experiences was genetically built in, the experience of retching food that is contaminated. This is the basis of human disgust, the experience of what looks to be sickening. We also have an organic need as children to be cared for and loved. Without that we would not survive.

The point is that all of these things allow us to be programmed by our individual experiences via a language or accidental events that will create the notion of good and evil. We can be told how to behave, how not to cause disgust in others, how not to behave shamefully, by the threat of being told we are that when we deviate, when we do not adhere to the local parental notions of good and evil. We can be controlled by being put down with words, or other painful experiences. These are the things that can create what we refer to as traumatic events and PSD. And all of these kinds of experiences are either non-volitional, the experience of disgust at the appearance of conditioned disgusting things, or, in the case of childhood put downs meant to induce moral conformity, to become repressed memories. We can't survive in a state of constant psychological pain as children, but we carry the damage done in the form of reactivity to events on an unconscious level.

There are, I believe, two ways that children react to being controlled as children, willing victims and resistant victims. I think conservatives, the biggest practitioners of punishment based good and evil thinking, suffer from Stockholm Syndrome. They have been converted and accept the roll of perpetrators of dualistic moral beliefs based on merit and reward for being good, and the need for retribution if not. Liberals side more with the victims and hold the perpetrators themselves in contempt. Each gains the high ground by making the other the source of evil. Same disease, same insanity, same refusal to see that disease in themselves. I believe it is harder for conservatives to recover, however, because they participate actively in the evil and if they were conscious of it would feel guilt. The desire to see others suffer from the results of their sins is the result of having been made to suffer that same thing as an innocent. The repetitive experience of being made to feel worthless is hate and a desire for revenge. When evil is done to liberals with their sympathy for victims, they can experience the same hate and desire for righteous vengeance.

The only thing I can see to take us off this merry-go-round is the realization of the futility of rage, that vengeance and punishment are the source of the problem, not the cure. People need some way to transcend their guilt and the feeling that was inculcated that conditioned them to believe there is only one way to being worth something, that their truth is the only one. The only truth is the condition of being unconditioned, of being real. Conditioning, of course, leads to the mental belief or certainty that one is not conditioned. The truth is deeply hidden.

Dude, that is one long... wtf is it again? .
I think it is universally understood that you dont fight your enemy cause you hate him you fight him because you understand him.
What you are seeing with the "hate" is just mobilising/rallying of the lesser ranks. So, if reading you correctly you want to educate the masses on psych101 and introspection wich will lead to one big circle of understanding and peace. Yeah. Acid much? .

 

[cytg111]

I think you need to amend that, 2/3rds of the white males who voted, voted for the bloated orange bag of batshit crazy. It's the number of women that voted for him that gives me pause, tbh.

Id like to see a statistic on how many households in middle/lower class that have the man and woman vote in different directions?

 

[Thebobo]

Dude, that is one long... wtf is it again? .
I think it is universally understood that you dont fight your enemy cause you hate him you fight him because you understand him.
What you are seeing with the "hate" is just mobilising/rallying of the lesser ranks. So, if reading you correctly you want to educate the masses on psych101 and introspection wich will lead to one big circle of understanding and peace. Yeah. Acid much? .

Yea but it didn't work for me lol

 

[cytg111]

White men were cool when they could sip scotch and pump darker skinned people full of lead from a gattling gun. It's all down hill since the technological parity. And white men are pissed!*




*except me and some other ones.

Yea * here too. That sounds wrong though.

 

[nickqt]

10-1, Trump's first pardon.

Pretty sure I called it first, a while ago.

Someone pay up.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Pretty sure I called it first, a while ago.

Someone pay up.

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...d-of-criminal-contempt.2512635/#post-39010690

 

[rudder]

Trump will forever be known as the fake President Of The United States, so there is that context.
I cant get my head around the fact that 2/3rds of white male talent voted for this guy? Really? Dam son, thats some entitled bitches right there. Hell hath no fury like a white man scorned.

Because the reactions of batshit crazy liberals is just amazing to watch. I could cancel cable tv and just watch meltdown videos on youtube. Do you all ever get tired of being manipulated hypocritical little tards? I can get the anger you may be feeling had you expressed 1/1000th of your whininess while obama was president. Sure maybe this pardon was not the best thing to do at this time.... but where was your anger when obama pardoned chelsea manning and his other 1900+ communations and pardon... some being somewhat suspect?