Trump has pardoned Joe Arpaio

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UNCjigga

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POTUS just admitted he pardoned Joe during Hurricane Harvey coverage "for the ratings". Let that sink in...
 
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Jhhnn

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Trump is virtue signaling to every racist & wannabee fascist cop in America.

So don't look like a Mexican, OK? Otherwise, it's gonna be "Papers, please".
 

trenchfoot

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You gotta wonder how bad things are for a POTUS when he has to rely on racists, bigots and supremacists for essential support to win elections.

Same goes for the GOP in general, along with their heavy reliance on gerrymandering, "voter rights" laws and all other manner of disenfranchising and suppressive scams that they have come to rely on to negate the effects that changes in demographics and attitudes have created.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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You gotta wonder how bad things are for a POTUS when he has to rely on racists, bigots and supremacists for essential support to win elections.

Same goes for the GOP in general, along with their heavy reliance on gerrymandering, "voter rights" laws and all other manner of disenfranchising and suppressive scams that they have come to rely on to negate the effects that changes in demographics and attitudes have created.

Yeah but they have to because liberals are mean to them. :eyeroll:
 
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MagnusTheBrewer

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You gotta wonder how bad things are for a POTUS when he has to rely on racists, bigots and supremacists for essential support to win elections.

Same goes for the GOP in general, along with their heavy reliance on gerrymandering, "voter rights" laws and all other manner of disenfranchising and suppressive scams that they have come to rely on to negate the effects that changes in demographics and attitudes have created.
He's simply gaming the system just like he's always done. How does it feel to have a President who is the epitome of our current American dream? While the white supremacists deserve every bit of the derision they've received, what do you think the average college educated cube monkey deserves for allowing it to happen?
 

akenbennu

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Very few things from T-Rump surprise me at this point but I seriously did a WTF on this one. I'm hoping that someone can explain this one to me (seriously). Did he just think out loud without realizing it?

I don't know that thinking is the right term, more like stream of consciousness.
 

HomerJS

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You gotta wonder how bad things are for a POTUS when he has to rely on racists, bigots and supremacists for essential support to win elections.

Same goes for the GOP in general, along with their heavy reliance on gerrymandering, "voter rights" laws and all other manner of disenfranchising and suppressive scams that they have come to rely on to negate the effects that changes in demographics and attitudes have created.
It wouldn't work if Republicans hadn't made it so comfortable for them in their party since 1964.

There is going to be an increase in incidents where people of color are stopped by police that end badly for them. Now cops have a get out of jail free card.
 
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thilanliyan

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In reality, this is how that policy played out:
[A]n MCSO officer stopped a Latina woman – a citizen of the United States and five months pregnant at the time – as she pulled into her driveway. After she exited her car, the officer then insisted that she sit on the hood of the car. When she refused, the officer grabbed her arms, pulled them behind her back, and slammed her, stomach first, into the vehicle three times. He then dragged her to the patrol car and shoved her into the backseat. He left her in the patrol car for approximately 30 minutes without air conditioning.”​
That's despicable considering she's pregnant.
 

UNCjigga

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I gotta say, as much as I hate Trump for this pardon (it is a despicable act) I'm surprised at how much media attention Arpaio's policies are getting now, vs. when it was actually happening or when the Justice Dept. brought their case forward. Where was all this outrage 1-2 years ago? I think local/regional media covered it extensively but I don't recall national headlines or features on late night TV. They were too busy with Trump.

I did an informal poll and asked my friends and neighbors what they knew about why Arpaio was convicted, and I got a few mumblings about "tent cities" and "excessive heat" but nobody went into detail about the crappy food, psychological torture, webcams in women's bathrooms or rape incidents not being investigated or prosecuted. Nevermind how he violated the Fourth Amendment or contempt of court charges.

Did the media totally drop the ball here, and might that have helped Trump characterize this lawsuit as a "political character attack" when it was anything but??
 
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I gotta say, as much as I hate Trump for this pardon (it is a despicable act) I'm surprised at how much media attention Arpaio's policies are getting now, vs. when it was actually happening or when the Justice Dept. brought their case forward. Where was all this outrage 1-2 years ago? I think local/regional media covered it extensively but I don't recall national headlines or features on late night TV. They were too busy with Trump.

I did an informal poll and asked my friends and neighbors what they knew about why Arpaio was convicted, and I got a few mumblings about "tent cities" and "excessive heat" but nobody went into detail about the crappy food, psychological torture, webcams in women's bathrooms or rape incidents not being investigated or prosecuted. Nevermind how he violated the Fourth Amendment or contempt of court charges.

Did the media totally drop the ball here, and might that have helped Trump characterize this lawsuit as a "political character attack" when it was anything but??
The outrage was there. The difference was he was being held accountable for his actions. Now it's a free pass for anyone in law enforcement to wipe their ass with the constitution and send a big fuck you to the judiciary as long as Trump likes them.
 

trenchfoot

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I wouldn't work if Republicans hadn't made it so comfortable for them in their party since 1964.

There are going to be an increase in incidents where people of color are stopped by police that end badly for them. Now cops have a get out of jail free card.

Yep, when they made a home for themselves in the GOP House of Exclusiveness and got a nice house warming party out of it, it sure set an ugly precedent that's stood the test of time.

Funny though how the GOP welcomes them with open arms yet go out of their way to emphasize that their official stance is one of abhorrence for what these racists stand for.

Apparently, hypocrisy knows no bounds in the Party of Trump.
 

agent00f

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So dear leader took a bullet for the charlottesville nazis/klan, who don't care for jews/blacks respectively. And now he takes a bullet for sheriff joe, who really doesn't care for mexican looking people. Gotta hand it to him for covering all his bases here. Maybe some muslim genocide fans are next.

I can only hope more conservatives come to this thread to discuss the many sides of this pardon, how there's plenty of blame to go around, or why leftists are the Real racists here.
 

1sikbITCH

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No it didn't, not once, ever.

I'm up for a lesson.

This prominent conservative historian and author seems to think it's all about the bible. https://home.isi.org/pillars-modern-american-conservatism

The fourth pillar is belief in God. Belief in God means adherence to the broad concepts of religious faith—such things as justice, virtue, fairness, charity, community, and duty. These are the concepts on which conservatives base their philosophy.


Conservative belief is tethered to the idea that there is an allegiance to God that transcends politics and that sets a standard for politics. For conservatives, there must be an authority greater than man, greater than any ruler, king, or government: no state can demand our absolute obedience or attempt to control every aspect of our lives. There must be a moral order, conservatives believe, that undergirds political order. This pillar of conservatism does not mean mixing up faith and politics, and it certainly does not mean settling religious disputes politically. It also does not mean that conservatives have a monopoly on faith, or even that all conservatives are necessarily believers.

See that crap? It's a freakin cult. A main pillar of the party is religion but if you don't believe in God its ok? Clown car cult at that.
 

agent00f

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I'm up for a lesson.

This prominent conservative historian and author seems to think it's all about the bible. https://home.isi.org/pillars-modern-american-conservatism

The fourth pillar is belief in God. Belief in God means adherence to the broad concepts of religious faith—such things as justice, virtue, fairness, charity, community, and duty. These are the concepts on which conservatives base their philosophy.


Conservative belief is tethered to the idea that there is an allegiance to God that transcends politics and that sets a standard for politics. For conservatives, there must be an authority greater than man, greater than any ruler, king, or government: no state can demand our absolute obedience or attempt to control every aspect of our lives. There must be a moral order, conservatives believe, that undergirds political order. This pillar of conservatism does not mean mixing up faith and politics, and it certainly does not mean settling religious disputes politically. It also does not mean that conservatives have a monopoly on faith, or even that all conservatives are necessarily believers.

See that crap? It's a freakin cult. A main pillar of the party is religion but if you don't believe in God its ok? Clown car cult at that.

If they actually believed that a place in heaven were predicated on being good instead of backing complete pieces of shit, they wouldn't do what they do. They sin against jesus on the regular because they know there's no repercussion.
 

Roflmouth

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LOL, it must absolutely suck for the idiots on the left watching in horror as the illegal aliens they never shut up about are getting rounded up and thrown out. Watching federal immigration law get enforced has to be an absolute nightmare for them
 

Aegeon

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LOL, it must absolutely suck for the idiots on the left watching in horror as the illegal aliens they never shut up about are getting rounded up and thrown out. Watching federal immigration law get enforced has to be an absolute nightmare for them
No, this is about many conservatives lawlessness and lack of respect for the US Constitution. No-one who objectively looks at the facts can argue that Arapaio did not end up targeting merely non-US citizens. Those who persist in supporting this pardon in fact are opposing the rule of law in the United States.
 

Roflmouth

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No, this is about many conservatives lawlessness and lack of respect for the US Constitution. No-one who objectively looks at the facts can argue that Arapaio did not end up targeting merely non-US citizens. Those who persist in supporting this pardon in fact are opposing the rule of law in the United States.

You mean exactly like the Democratic party opposing federal immigration law, right? LOL
 
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