Trump is dominating as POTUS.

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Sea Ray

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Not saying your wrong but do you have any facts to backup your claim that much of Europe is dependent upon Iranian oil? Cant find anything on it.
France has an enormous financial interest in Iranian Oil:

The head of French oil major Total recently urged U.S. President Donald Trump to stick with the nuclear deal with Iran, where it has investments, according to an interview with the Financial Times...Total signed a deal with Tehran last July to develop phase 11 of Iran’s South Pars field with an initial investment of $1 billion, in the first major western energy contract in the country since sanctions were lifted.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...stick-with-iran-nuclear-deal-ft-idUSKBN1FW0NL

Oil trade between Iran and France surpassed $2 billion in 2017, French Ambassador to Tehran Francois Senemaud said Tuesday, hoping bilateral business will continue as normal.

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/02/27/553782/Iran-oil-France-Total-gas-Peugeot
 

Sea Ray

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1: Others have called shens on that idea of dependence on Iran.
2: They... let us fight the big wars for them? They want the peace deal to stand. To avoid war that Republicans want to provoke.

If you'd like to tell us that Trump is dominating as the Villain of this story, they I certainly would not argue that.

Do you really think Europe wants Iran to have nukes? Are you that naive? No, they sure don't want the area destabilized with nukes but they're not willing to do anything about it. They're leaving it up to the USA to keep it from happening
 

Sea Ray

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Amid the European Union’s increasing efforts to diversify its natural gas supplies, Iran has emerged as a potential supplier to the bloc following the conclusion of its nuclear accord. Iran has enormous natural gas reserves; more, in fact, than Russia or Qatar.

http://www.sharqforum.org/2018/03/0...e-post-jcpoa-era-determinants-and-restraints/

Geopolitics is complicated. Like I said in the beginning, I'm not going to spoon feed it to any of you but Europe has a lot more at stake here than we do.
 

Jhhnn

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Do you really think Europe wants Iran to have nukes? Are you that naive? No, they sure don't want the area destabilized with nukes but they're not willing to do anything about it. They're leaving it up to the USA to keep it from happening

They joined with us in the JCPOA precisely to prevent nuclear proliferation by Iran. That's what's kept it from happening. Trump tossed that aside even with total compliance from Iran. If the ROTW can't keep the deal sweet enough w/o us then Iran will basically be pushed into becoming a nuclear power.

Too easy, right?
 
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HomerJS

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Well... If Trump DOESN'T win that Knobell Peach Prize as I'm sure he expects to, he'll be pissed.
He won't have that money to blow on hookers, or his award to get the hookers to sleep with him.
"Wanna see my prize? I keep it in my pants."
Yeah, if he loses his prize he'll be claiming the prize process is rigged, especially given that Obama got one.
And if he DOES get the prize, like if there is no god, then Trump will forever claim that HIS prize is bigger than anyone else's prize.
And the hookers will surround him like flies on shet.
It's not everyday a hooker gets to sleep with a porno peace prize winner.
Which ever way it goes, watching this unfold should be quite entertaining to say the least.
Best analogy I've heard on team working on this...

The Cleveland Cavaliers are working on this agreement. Trump thinks he's Lebron James but he's really JR Smith. That's how much credit he deserves.
 

Sea Ray

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They joined with us in the JCPOA precisely to prevent nuclear proliferation by Iran. That's what's kept it from happening. Trump tossed that aside even with total compliance from Iran. If the ROTW can't keep the deal sweet enough w/o us then Iran will basically be pushed into becoming a nuclear power.

Too easy, right?

Wrong. The Iran deal was never about keeping us safe for two yrs. It was about keeping them nuke free for the foreseeable future and this deal had no promises for that
 

blankslate

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The world is seeing his actions and have taken note. You should get out of your safe spaces and thank Almighty God daily that Trump is running the show.


That is all.

The recent positive developments in Korea are a result of the South Korean Prime Minister taking action more than anything Trump did.

The middle east is still a mess... however that area has been a victim of foreign policy shenanigans for centuries... some of it done by us.
Trump seemingly only sees it as a place to bomb if he needs help with Americans who are impressed with military strikes without regard to the consequences

as far as domestic policy the only thing he can point to is a tax bill that came into being due to very wealthy republican donors threatening to stop the money flow if that didn't happen.

if you like that then... congratulations?


Sadly Trump's ratings are not in the 30s and the gap in the polls between democratic and republican house candidates has narrowed too much for my compfort.

While there are still places like NJ where democratic candidates have a major advantage generally the gap has been closed.


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umbrella39

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It's going to be so glorious when these traitors are rounded up and put behind the fences...
 

Jhhnn

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Wrong. The Iran deal was never about keeping us safe for two yrs. It was about keeping them nuke free for the foreseeable future and this deal had no promises for that

False. Iran agreed in perpetuity to the strictest safeguards yet devised for their nuclear facilities of all kinds. They disposed of their stocks of LEU, mothballed most of their enrichment capacity, agreed to a 10 year moratorium on expanding production & filled the Arak reactor core with concrete. They have complied scrupulously with the JCPOA in order to participate more fully in the world economy. They clearly want that more than they want nuclear weapons or they would have just made weapons. It seems unlikely that they'd see it differently down the road, particularly given that they'd have even more to lose.
 

Sea Ray

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False. Iran agreed in perpetuity to the strictest safeguards yet devised for their nuclear facilities of all kinds. They disposed of their stocks of LEU, mothballed most of their enrichment capacity, agreed to a 10 year moratorium on expanding production & filled the Arak reactor core with concrete. They have complied scrupulously with the JCPOA in order to participate more fully in the world economy. They clearly want that more than they want nuclear weapons or they would have just made weapons. It seems unlikely that they'd see it differently down the road, particularly given that they'd have even more to lose.

Well, I guess that's the source of our disagreement. Israel doesn't see it that way and neither do I
 

thraashman

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Well, I guess that's the source of our disagreement. Israel doesn't see it that way and neither do I
Israel also doesn't see killing hundreds of civilians as wrong so long as they're Palestinian, the not shitbag people of the world do however.
 
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Indus

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Trump is dominating....the bottom of the swamp!

The stench is so bad, its dominating our senses of revulsion.

There in is the equation: Effected vs Offended.

If people are offended, we tell them to be thick skinned but when enough people are effected, we take action.
 

Juiblex

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Israel also doesn't see killing hundreds of civilians as wrong so long as they're Palestinian, the not shitbag people of the world do however.

Right on. Lets be honest though and reframe it. They don't see killing hundres of civilians as wrong as long as they're not Zionists. Hopefully the rest of the world can say "no" to Zionism. But with entrenched as they are in western civilization, I guess it will take a Muslim country to free us.
 

brycejones

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Right on. Lets be honest though and reframe it. They don't see killing hundres of civilians as wrong as long as they're not Zionists. Hopefully the rest of the world can say "no" to Zionism. But with entrenched as they are in western civilization, I guess it will take a Muslim country to free us.

I'm guessing you're a very fine person. How did you enjoy your meeting in Chancellorsville? To bad one of your buddies in a car messed it up.
 
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