Trump just fired Comey!

[Vic]

OTOH, Hannity and company aside... #Nevertrump and #Pence2018 movements in the GOP are quite excited over this.
Bonus points if you read the comments. Provides a lot of insight into the gulf I was describing before.

Ughh.. the wailing and gnashing of teeth in the comments. Even if their ideology was something that was consistent enough that I could agree with it, I would never want to waste my life being that angry, bitter, and hateful. Sad.

 

[Vic]

I thought we are finding out now if the US is a failed state after 8 years of Dictator in Chief.

Come back to the real world.

 

[Fern]

-snip-

LOL

Fern

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

WTF What are you smoking? That's false equivalence The excuse by Trump admin was so pathetically transparent and absurd. He's under FBI investigation. He obviously wants to put a stooge like Christie as a replacement and doesn't want a special prosecutor to pursue Trump-Russia. That would mean DOJ, FBI, and congressional investigations are all compromised and a complete joke.

Perhaps you don't understand that I know exactly what it is. Those who supported Trump can and will buy right into it.

This was an opportunity which was seized and the Reps will, indeed have, spin this just as I have said. This isn't a deadly game but in terms of serious consequences it may as well be.


Never underestimate your opponent.

 

[Jhhnn]

Ughh.. the wailing and gnashing of teeth in the comments. Even if their ideology was something that was consistent enough that I could agree with it, I would never want to waste my life being that angry, bitter, and hateful. Sad.

Ivanka should market a line of Republi-panties. They could tie a knot in the crotch, then finish sewing them together.

 

[Vic]

For once I agree with Zinfamous. Obama clearly wasn't a dictator, he was just a globalist lapdog taking orders from his superiors.

"Globalist" is just the latest codeword for anti-Semitism, ie "International Jew."

 

[Vic]

I already know that excuse. "Trump had to wait for his AG".
Republican views on this will be largely devoid of the investigative context. And now you can, hopefully, see why.
I am providing a window into the other side so people understand "why" the nation will have a divided reaction.

I appreciate the window, but the Trumper narrative is clearly false, devoid of both logic and truth. There's going to come a point, I believe, when the American people are no longer going to believe the party in power when it insists that party not in power is to blame for all its screwups.

 

[Fern]

Are you joking? Does it really need to be explained to you why the president should not fire the person in charge of investigating his administration for collusion with a hostile foreign power?
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So now it's the whole Trump admin that's being investigated? LOL@unhingedLibs.

Fern

 

[Vic]

So now it's the whole Trump admin that's being investigated? LOL@unhingedLibs.

Fern

You used to be more intelligent than to resort to canned partisan namecalling.

 

[Fern]

Okay, I'll explain it as simply as possible: if the president fires people who are conducting criminal investigations into his administration this helps him cover up crimes that he or his associates are committing. Presumably you don't like it when presidents commit crimes, so you shouldn't support things that make committing crimes or covering them up easier.

Well, you're on a roll today...

Trump isn't under investigation and the investigation is counter-intelligence, not criminal.

Fern

 

[fskimospy]

So now it's the whole Trump admin that's being investigated? LOL@unhingedLibs.

Fern

Huh? Someone's administration being investigated doesn't mean that literally everyone in it is being investigated. For example, when someone says Chase Bank is being investigated by the SEC do you take that to mean that the SEC is investigating the janitors?

lol@fernslackofreadingcomprehension

 

[Jaskalas]

So you think Trump and crew just decided out of the blue to fire Comey using reasons they could have offered months earlier, and that Trump's "I'm really glad you said you're not investigating me, but I'm firing you anyway" letter didn't at least raise eyebrows?

Trump appears to be objectively retarded for having added that part. It shows state of mind... it indicates intent. It's hanging out bloody red meat in a swimming pool full of sharks. It's incredible how brazen and potentially criminal that statement in that letter was.

 

[fskimospy]

Well, you're on a roll today...

Trump isn't under investigation and the investigation is counter-intelligence, not criminal.

Fern

You're on a roll today too, haha! Do you genuinely not understand that the reason why the FBI can run counterintelligence investigations is because the things it is investigating are crimes?

You've seriously lost it in the past few years.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Trump appears to be objectively retarded for having added that part. It shows state of mind... it indicates intent. It's hanging out bloody red meat in a swimming pool full of sharks. It's incredible how brazen and potentially criminal that statement in that letter was.

And yet, who is surprised?

 

[Mai72]

Oh, he will resign. He just has to frame it right first. He is going to resign not because he is about to be impeached. Oh, no! He will resign because he is not getting the respect he deserves and refuses to continue to put in all the hard work for a country that doesn't appreciate it. You won't have Trump to kick around anymore.

I feel the same.

IMI, the media will pound Trump straight into the pavement over this for as long as they need too. Every day. All day. Hopefully until it destroys him. Trump isn't to be trusted anymore. He's a commie lover. He's anti-American and I hope he gets punished for what he did.

His fans are commie lovers as well. Anti-American all of them. They all need to go back to Russia.

To the Trump supporters: Why wouldn't you want to find out if Trump had close ties to Putin? Do you really hate America that much that you'd still support a president who would sell America out to Russia? Really...

 

[ch33zw1z]

It's called blind love. They love they're intended version of America so much they're blind

 

[Maxima1]

Well, you're on a roll today...

Trump isn't under investigation and the investigation is counter-intelligence, not criminal.

Fern

Good grief! FinCEN is also working with FBI CI, for one. Donnie is going to die in Leavenworth penniless!

 

[brycejones]

So now it's the whole Trump admin that's being investigated? LOL@unhingedLibs.

Fern

Fern projecting yet again. Seek help.

 

[Maxima1]

Fern projecting yet again. Seek help.

It's pathetic how illogical they are. Democrats mad at Comey for throwing election, so we somehow can't complain when Trump fires Comey who was investigating him.

 

[Thebobo]

Well, you're on a roll today...

Trump isn't under investigation and the investigation is counter-intelligence, not criminal.

Fern

You keep saying that but when did Comey ever say that publicly? Do you have proof of that other then Trump's claim?

 

[Fern]

If that's the trigger then why wasn't that given as the reason for firing him? It's especially strange considering the other reasons listed were obvious lies that they had to know would be exposed almost immediately.

You're misunderstanding me.

First, I see Trump as a business person, not a politician. In business, if they want to fire you they'll often wait until you 'step in it' in a public way and then fire you. Comey 'stepped in it' in his Congressional testimony. So, Trump acted then. Just my guess, but I think that's why the timming.

I watched a fair deal of Comey's testimony, I personally think his testimony is what got him into trouble. And I don't mean the slip about "hundreds and thousands of emails". His explanation for why he felt he needed to usurp the AG's role and make the announcement was rather outrageous. And his whole 'looking back I wouldn't have done anything differently' is straight up outrageous. The boob learned nothing. If looking back he can't see that he made mistakes he's utterly and helplessly incompetent. Anyone with two brain cells would have said that, yeah, it was mistake to break with FBI policy and announce Hillary's investigation (twice, mind you).

Fern

 

[ivwshane]

It's pathetic how illogical they are. Democrats mad at Comey for throwing election, so we somehow can't complain when Trump fires Comey who was investigating him.

Well to be fair, most people on the right don't understand how context works.

 

[Victorian Gray]

You are just an idiot. When someone says something that is 100% verifiable by anyone at any time and you get some minor detail wrong, there is zero reason to do that intentionally. TO lie there needs to be motive.

A typical Trump "lie":

Trump said he would "Drain the swamp"
Politifact rates this statement FALSE: there is no swampland in Washington DC, it's largely urban city & parkland. Can't drain a swamp that doesn't exist!

Link?

 

[Maxima1]

You're misunderstanding me.

First, I see Trump as a business person, not a politician. In business, if they want to fire you they'll often wait until you 'step in it' in a public way and then fire you. Comey 'stepped in it' in his Congressional testimony. So, Trump acted then. Just my guess, but I think that's why the timming.

I watched a fair deal of Comey's testimony, I personally think his testimony is what got him into trouble. And I don't mean the slip about "hundreds and thousands of emails". His explanation for why he felt he needed to usurp the AG's role and make the announcement was rather outrageous. And his whole 'looking back I wouldn't have done anything differently' is straight up outrageous. The boob learned nothing. If looking back he can't see that he made mistakes he's utterly and helplessly incompetent. Anyone with two brain cells would have said that, yeah, it was mistake to break with FBI policy and announce Hillary's investigation (twice, mind you).

Fern

Your theory is whacked. You are whack. Trump and Sessions both praised him even months after and Donnie even blew him a kiss. Everyone knows the real reason is the investigation.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Well, you're on a roll today...

Trump isn't under investigation and the investigation is counter-intelligence, not criminal.

Fern

I'll try to summarize and warning I'm making some assumptions about the left side of these forums.
I believe most are like me they do believe Comey had to go because he made a pretty poor decision about commenting about Hillary's decision process and the letter release 10 days before the election that turned out to be a nothing burger. Put aside partisan hatred for a few moment and think, once something like that is allowed to happen either intentionally or unintentionally expect it to happen again. Now think of the 2032 Republican Candidate and imagine the head of the FBI coming out and saying we're investigating this, he/her made poor decisions and days before the election say they are investigating something else but dropping it hours before the ballot boxes open. Don't kid yourself this will happen again that is how Politics and our Government works and at some point it will be a D as head of FBI and an R candidate.
Comey also has trouble explaining why Hillary's email server was of such enormous priority but talk of known Russian hacking could wait until after the election.
*The above points are not meant to be open for discussion its just something to think about.

Today we have Comey fired for poor performance which I am torn on, while I don't disagree that he didn't run the FBI the way it should I do have some level of concern about Trump appointing a guy whose job will be investigating if there was any intentional or unintentional collusion between his campaign and Russia.

I'm just hoping Trump appoints someone professional and reasonable plus allows a separate committee or investigator that is fair and non partisan in either direction to take over. However to progressive/liberals like me Trump has made zero effort at reaching out to us so I fear he will nominate some conservative hero like a Giuliani that will obscure as much as possible.

Do you understand now?