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fskimospy

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Actually you're right, that came after Comey's letter, my mistake! That being said, you've still been duped yet again.

The only problem is that the headline you took came from the 'community' section of Daily Kos, something that literally anyone can write on. The guy that wrote that doesn't work for Daily Kos and he wasn't endorsed by them in any way. The second person is actually a Daily Kos staff member, so if you have cases of Daily Kos staff contradicting each other that would be something.

What you posted (ie: what you clearly got from somewhere else) is the equivalent of saying that Anandtech says Nvidia sucks because of a comment in the forum section.
 
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Only because you're incapable of rational independent thought while utilizing context.
If "rational independent thought while utilizing context" means using one's self-perceived highly evolved critical thinking skills to rationalize blatant and massive cognitive dissonance...then yes, you are correct sir. Meanwhile the FBI investigation continues unabated while the left melts down into an unprecedented level of hysteria.

BTW...I absolutely love the "while utilizing context" part...it just screams rationalization and self-deception.
 
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fskimospy

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I never lied. I don't read all your posts. Sorry, you aren't that important to me.

You claimed that Obama was saying that nobody could rig our elections and that he was referring to propaganda efforts by the Russians. This is obviously contradicted by the actual transcript of what he said and the question it was in response to which I supplied.

Either you are an idiot and posted something you didn't understand or you're a liar. Which one is it?
 

Chiropteran

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You claimed that Obama was saying that nobody could rig our elections and that he was referring to propaganda efforts by the Russians. This is obviously contradicted by the actual transcript of what he said and the question it was in response to which I supplied.

Either you are an idiot and posted something you didn't understand or you're a liar. Which one is it?

I'm sorry, your inability to understand context doesn't make me liar. Obama said those words.

Let me spell it out for you.

Obama says our election can't be rigged.

If Russians rigged our election, does that mean the election is rigged?

The answer is yes.

If Obama actually meant that "Hillary can't be rigging the election, but someone else might!" he should have said that. He didn't. Either the election was not rigged, or Obama was lying.
 

UNCjigga

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I know this is hard for you and a waste of everyone's time, but lets try to use facts, mmmkay?

Trump's tweet (as referenced by fskimospy) - October 16, 2016
Obama's "stop whining" response - October 18, 2016
FBI "reopening Clinton email investigation" due to Weiner - October 28, 2016
FBI reclosing Clinton email investigation due to Weiner - November 6, 2016

Now based on the timeline above, neither Obama nor his associates [i.e. fmr. Secy. Clinton] were under investigation by the FBI at the time of Obama's statement. AKA lie not found.

If you can't even follow a unidirectional linear path such as time, how can anyone expect you to follow any point to a logical conclusion?
 

Chiropteran

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I know this is hard for you and a waste of everyone's time, but lets try to use facts, mmmkay?

Trump's tweet (as referenced by fskimospy) - October 16, 2016
Obama's "stop whining" response - October 18, 2016
FBI "reopening Clinton email investigation" due to Weiner - October 28, 2016
FBI reclosing Clinton email investigation due to Weiner - November 6, 2016

Now based on the timeline above, neither Obama nor his associates [i.e. fmr. Secy. Clinton] were under investigation by the FBI at the time of Obama's statement. AKA lie not found.

If you can't even follow a unidirectional linear path such as time, how can anyone expect you to follow any point to a logical conclusion?


Are you okay?

You seem to be suffering from dementia, or confusion of some sort at least.

The article said Obama should fire Comey was dated Oct 30. That is absolutely between the date of the investigation reopening and the election.

Obama's claim that the election can't be rigged HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FIRING COMEY. It has to do with the idea that the election was actually rigged by the Russians. Date is irrelevant. He could have said it on Jan 1st 2016 it would still be a contradiction.
 
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One of us is fucking insane, and it's the person who STILL takes press statements from the Trump Administration with the presumption that they are true despite literally having several of them exposed as transparent lies about exactly this issue.

Seriously, how completely overwhelmed by confirmation bias are you? Why would you believe a single thing that any press statement from this administration says, especially about this issue? I am genuinely at a loss as to why the default response is not to assume that it's a lie.
Rosenstein has now explicitly stated that he didn't threaten to quit. Dude, you're the insane one here and fucking twisted as hell.

http://wjla.com/news/nation-world/d...ting-didnt-threaten-to-quit-over-comey-firing
Deputy AG Rosenstein: 'I'm not quitting,' didn't threaten to quit over Comey firing

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein said he’s not quitting, nor did he threaten to quit over his role in the firing of FBI Director James Comey.

When asked by Sinclair Broadcast Group’s Michelle Macaluso about reports that claim otherwise, he stated “no, I’m not quitting.”
 
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UNCjigga

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I'm sorry, your inability to understand context doesn't make me liar. Obama said those words.

Let me spell it out for you.

Obama says our election can't be rigged.

If Russians rigged our election, does that mean the election is rigged?

The answer is yes.

If Obama actually meant that "Hillary can't be rigging the election, but someone else might!" he should have said that. He didn't. Either the election was not rigged, or Obama was lying.
Again, let's remember that time is linear (unless you'd like to accuse Mr. Obama of time travel):

Obama's "stop whining" response - October 18, 2016
Obama and Trump's first briefing on the Steele Dossier and accusations therein - early January 2017 (someone with more time to waste can find an exact date, but it was shortly before the Buzzfeed leak)
 

Chiropteran

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Hayabusa Rider

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Because I trust Obama in this one case, if nothing else. He said you can't rig the election, so it can't be done. Not by Clinton, not by Trump, not by Russians.



So do you agree? Or are you calling the first African american president a liar? Are you racist?

Do you still beat your wife? Dude that doesn't work at all I'm watching the video at this moment and he mentioned voting proper, overwhelming incidents of voter fraud.

Here's the clip that this idiot made is based on. At about 2 minutes he says precisely what this is about, voter fraud. In any universe that means fraud by voters.


As you know the problem is about Russian *influence*, not some magic access to voting machines. You need to find another way, seriously.
 

Chiropteran

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Again, let's remember that time is linear (unless you'd like to accuse Mr. Obama of time travel):

Obama's "stop whining" response - October 18, 2016
Obama and Trump's first briefing on the Steele Dossier and accusations therein - early January 2017 (someone with more time to waste can find an exact date, but it was shortly before the Buzzfeed leak)

You know what? If you say something, and it ends up being untrue due to unforeseen future events, that is called telling a lie.

The truth doesn't magically become a lie when more information comes to light.

Yes. What you seem to be missing is that if Russia was rigging the election and Obama didn't know about it, HE WAS STILL LYING.

He didn't say "the election isn't being rigged" He said "the election can't be rigged". If you are going to make such an absurd statement, you either absolutely know it's true or you don't care about lying to make a point. Given he was the president at the time, with the powers of the NSA behind him, wouldn't he be aware of any potential rigging?

Or are you now pushing the idea that Obama isn't a liar, he is just grossly incompetent and uninformed?
 

emperus

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Was just going to post this. Pure ownage.

Next insane theory: Rosenstein is also in league with the Russians. Be ready, someone is going to suggest it.

Ownage? You have an interesting perspective here. Today we just found out that Trump in fact decided to fire Comey himself despite the stories they told the last few days. And you have confidence in the guy who was the scapegoat for this LIE and chose to trash his reputation instead of coming out and telling the truth.

Honestly the shifting sands of this story give credence to the the story that Rosenstein was uncomfortable being the scapegoat and did threaten to quit.
 

fskimospy

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I'm sorry, your inability to understand context doesn't make me liar. Obama said those words.

Let me spell it out for you.

Obama says our election can't be rigged.

If Russians rigged our election, does that mean the election is rigged?

The answer is yes.

If Obama actually meant that "Hillary can't be rigging the election, but someone else might!" he should have said that. He didn't. Either the election was not rigged, or Obama was lying.

Thank you for clearing this up, now we all can see plain as day that you're a liar.

Obama said our election can't be rigged in relation to the integrity of the vote. He did not speak as to whether or not foreign actors could influence our election in other ways. This is explicitly covered by the transcript that I supplied. You are now deliberately misrepresenting what Obama said.

It's pathetic that even when having the exact words he said shoved in your face you're too dishonest and dishonorable to admit what you said was wrong. You've exposed yourself at least, so thanks for that.
 
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Chiropteran

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Ownage? You have an interesting perspective here. Today we just found out that Trump in fact decided to fire Comey himself despite the stories they told the last few days. And you have confidence in the guy who was the scapegoat for this LIE and chose to trash his reputation instead of coming out and telling the truth.

Honestly the shifting sands of this story give credence to the the story that Rosenstein was uncomfortable being the scapegoat and did threaten to quit.

Nonsense. Trump wanted to fire Comey for awhile. The DECISION to fire Comey was made after the AG's recommendation. Lie not found.

Wanting to do something and actually doing it are two different things.
 

fskimospy

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Rosenstein has now explicitly stated that he didn't threaten to quit. Dude, you're the insane one here and fucking twisted as hell.

http://wjla.com/news/nation-world/d...ting-didnt-threaten-to-quit-over-comey-firing
Deputy AG Rosenstein: 'I'm not quitting,' didn't threaten to quit over Comey firing

DSF, you're seriously losing your mind here. Maybe you need some more time to rest and recuperate because you're now just rambling incoherently.

The Trump Administration has already given numerous accounts of the causes and circumstances behind Comey's firing that are mutually exclusive to one another, meaning he's already been caught in numerous lies on the topic. Despite this, you then went and cited another statement from the Trump administration as somehow disproving news reports.

So they lied to your face and the next statement they make you just assumed was true again. I'm glad to see you're already back to insulting people in the place that you've repeatedly whined about being too mean. As always, you never fail to shit your pants.
 

Pens1566

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Nonsense. Trump wanted to fire Comey for awhile. The DECISION to fire Comey was made after the AG's recommendation. Lie not found.

Wanting to do something and actually doing it are two different things.

Believe whatever you want to, but the bolded is in direct conflict with his numerous public statements/tweets until about last week or so. And also against all the reporting that has come out since he canned him.
 

UNCjigga

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Was just going to post this. Pure ownage.

Next insane theory: Rosenstein is also in league with the Russians. Be ready, someone is going to suggest it.
Time for the media to start outing their "unnamed administration sources" on the Rosenstein story, because Team Trump just can't stop lying...they're even tripping over each other's lies! Zero credibility. Sad. Of course the DOJ won't pursue any "making false statements" cases with Sessions in charge.
 

Chiropteran

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You claimed that Obama was saying that nobody could rig our elections and that he was referring to propaganda efforts by the Russians.


When did I claim this? Please quote me.

Obama made a general statement. The general statement becomes a lie if the election was rigged by the Russians. Whether or not Obama was directly referring to Russians is irrelevant.
 

Chiropteran

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Time for the media to start outing their "unnamed administration sources" on the Rosenstein story, because Team Trump just can't stop lying...they're even tripping over each other's lies! Zero credibility. Sad. Of course the DOJ won't pursue any "making false statements" cases with Sessions in charge.

"Unnamed source close to the white house" = homeless guy protesting outside the gates. The media won't ever out him though, since it would kill their credibility.
 
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